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xerox
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posted December 29, 2008 12:34 AM

Why does HC hate WoW/MMOs?

Im a member of a lot of websites.

But yet, the only site that has shown any resistance against Blizzards mighty sovereignty. But soon you will be crushed... you will also be corrupted and addicted to their games...
Because the Universe of Starcraft is upon you!


Anyway, back to topic and away from the stupid "roleplay".


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Why do the people here hate WoW so much?
Give me some reasons why you hate it.
Thats its addicting is not an option. All games can be addiciting and Blizzard did not intend the game to be like that.


Also do people just hate WoW or MMOs in general (like Dark Age of Camelot, Age of Conan, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer Online etc) ?

Tell me.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:39 AM

HC hates drugs.
WC world is addictive, harmful to your health and expensive = Drug
HC hates WC world.
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Asheera
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posted December 29, 2008 12:40 AM

Well I can speak for my case, obviously, don't know about the others and probably they have different reasons.

I don't hate MMOs at all. I don't "hate" WoW, I just don't like it because:

1) Warcraft Graphics (you know what I mean ) ruin the atmosphere of the game for me completely, and I can't enjoy it because of that (it's like hearing heavy metal music in HoMM)

2) I don't like the Warcraft Lore at all... I know many will be shocked, but it just doesn't appeal to me.

3) I hate the monthly fee - I would have tried some MMOs (not WoW though) but because of this monthly fee I did not. This doesn't mean I don't like MMOs and their gameplay though, only that I don't like paying monthly to enjoy a game.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:43 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:48, 29 Dec 2008.

Asheera listed everything I hate about WoW...

It holds absolutely zero atmosphere for me...

The lore is so strange that I wouldn't touch it with a stick...

Monthly fee... the one thing that keeps me from playing Age of Reckoning...
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posted December 29, 2008 12:45 AM

HC haters WoW and MMOs.Actually i like them,esp Dota Allstars.And u dont have to pay monthly fee to play those games,like WoW,Lineage,u need to know where to get them.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:47 AM

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Monthly fee... the one thing that keeps me from playing Age of Reckoning...
Same, I would have loved to give it a try.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:50 AM
Edited by xerox at 00:55, 29 Dec 2008.

Most MMOs have comic style.

Warhammer, LOTRO both have comic style.

All MMOs have monthly fees (except some rare like guild wars).



Could you tell me what is wrong/weird with Warcraft lore?

I guess some people might think its kind of weird that Orcs are good and everything is vice versa from other universes (like the Undead and orcs as I said are good and the humans are bad etc).



But then I hate Dungeons and Dragons and the Warhammer Universe so I should not say anything.



btw why do you like Starcraft then? Starcraft also has great cinematics but the same graphical style as Warcraft.
All Blizzard games are comic in one way or another.



btw, I will search my WoW screenshot folder and upload my favorite screenshots (I took a picture when I turned to the max level lol).
Maybe you will change your mind.
Because I have a secret weapon... the Grizzly Hills zone.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:51 AM

Have you guys ever played warcraft..? The graphics thing sounds funny, it just has its own distinct style true to its roots. How many avoided warcraft because they did not like the graphics and why would the same apply to wow? Lore was well written and interesting, perhaps you found it too dramatic for your taste? Besides who cares about lore when playing wow

Only reason for my dislike is the constant milking from blizzard, goes against my principles.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:51 AM

For one thing, it just killed too much of what Warcraft III did right with the story.  Having a cascade of idiots strolling into the Black Citadel, releasing a character thought to be dead and slaughtering Illidan Stormrage just didn't cut it... no matter how "epic" it may have been to "experience".  

And turning Kael into Illidan's enemy was cheap.  Congrats, everything you just worked for in The Frozen Throne's second campaign has just been torn to pieces by an unfortunate plague of haxx0rs.

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posted December 29, 2008 12:53 AM

I hate WoW because of several reasons. First of all: repetitive gameplay... (grind + no real tactics in gameplay)

Second: poor literacy is kool!

Third: some people don't even know what they're playing and **** it up for the rest of us me.

Fourth: fee

Five: camping

Six: most other players

Seven: habitual lag
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posted December 29, 2008 12:54 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:55, 29 Dec 2008.

How can you hate Warhammer when WoW is basically just a ripo... *slaps myself*

Dangerous territory Adrius! Dangerous territory!

cough cough...

Anyway, I'm not really sure what makes me hate the warcraft lore... but one thing is sure, I don't hate all Blizzard universes.

The Starcraft world is awesome, so is Sanctuary, but the Warcraft one... I don't know, maybe it's because of the Orcs coming from a different planet and everything (that's true right?)

Anyway, it just feels too complex and alien to me.
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posted December 29, 2008 12:55 AM
Edited by Asheera at 00:58, 29 Dec 2008.

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Most MMOs have comic style.

Warhammer, LOTRO both have comic style.
There's a difference between the Warhammer comic style and the Warcraft one... don't make me post another pic of the H5 tree VS the Warcraft 3 one (and no, it has nothing to do with the fact that H5 came later and has more 'advanced' textures - that's the style of Warcraft, no matter when it comes out)
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All MMOs have monthly fees (except some rare like guild wars).
I know, that's what keeps me from playing any of them. I never said WoW is the only one, but WoW has other things I don't like apart from the monthly fees (as I said in my first post here)
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But then I hate Dungeons and Dragons and the Warhammer Universe so I should not say anything.
See? It's a matter of preference

There's nothing "wrong" with Warcraft Lore, since it seems it appeals to some people... but it's just me that doesn't like it at all.

And by Lore I don't mean story. I mean the whole setting, etc.
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btw why do you like Starcraft then? Starcraft also has great cinematics but the same graphical style as Warcraft.
All Blizzard games are comic in one way or another.
Starcraft at least was 2D and didn't look as ridiculous as Warcraft.


EDIT: OMG Ooops Quote Wars

I'll stop now, it's late and I have to rest anyway
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posted December 29, 2008 12:57 AM

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All games can be addiciting and Blizzard did not intend the game to be like that.

I lol'd

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posted December 29, 2008 12:58 AM
Edited by Elvin at 01:00, 29 Dec 2008.

I suppose it's only a matter before some crazy leveled heroes attack and defeat the lich king in his lair.. I had heard about Illidan but have no idea what other atrocities wow has done to the storyline. Btw what has it added to the plot so far?

@Dagoth
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posted December 29, 2008 01:13 AM
Edited by xerox at 01:20, 29 Dec 2008.

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Only reason for my dislike is the constant milking from blizzard, goes against my principles.


? In the end all companies etc wants to earn money. What do you mean with this? I dont understand, its not like they rush their games to release them like most other companies.


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´repetitive gameplay... (grind + no real tactics in gameplay)



The combat is indeed fast paced. I kill an enemy on my Hunter in like 5 seconds (and the enemy is the same level as me).

But there are defintly tactics. Every single boss has usually an unique tactic. In raids tactics mean everything.
Pre-TBC it was just to much tactics. In the 40-man raids, if one single player of those 40 people did something wrong the entire group died.
Now its slightly easier - but teamwork and tactics needed to make progress in end-game content (which is not hard to access).


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Camping


Wtf? How is this a reason? There is an option to NOT have "Player VS Player mode" on. That means that its IMPOSSIBLE for the opposing faction to attack and kill you.

Dont play on an PvP server - if you do that you have to face the consquenes.


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other players


???
WoW has one of the best and largest online communities in the gaming world. Please develop that issue.
And please dont say the age... -.-
People saying that has not even played the game, as the average age is 28-33.


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habitual lag


Then you must have a 10 year old computer. My computer is 3-5 years old and I run WoW on almost all highest graphics.
I do not have any shadows turned on though as it reduces FPS to 1 -.-


Adrius; the Orcs came from a portal or huge gateway. Portals have always been in fantasy. Warcraft has nothing common with Warhammer except green orcs and "War" in its name.



Warhammer Online graphics.

VS



World of Warcraft graphics.


To me both are cartoonish.



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Starcraft at least was 2D and didn't look as ridiculous as Warcraft.


Warcraft 1 and 2 are also 2D. Starcraft 2 is 3D, so is/was Starcraft: Ghost (which likely will be turned into an Sci-fi MMOFPS).




Elvin; A lot of things have happened.

Stormwinds lost king returned, Maiev finally executed Illidan. Kil'Jaedan invaded Azeroth. The Horde and the Alliance begun to battle again. The Forsaken betrayed the Horde. The Night Elves grew a new world tree, but for their selfishness it was not accepted.
Northrend suffered global warming and Icecrown Glaicar melted. The Draenei arrived. The Blood Elves were redeemed by the Light and the Sunwell was rebirthed.
The Gates of Ahn'qiraj opened and a new war started.
The Scourge invaded in order to lure the Horde and Alliance to Northrend were the Lich King would turn them into his servants.
Kael'thas betrayed Illidan and was controlled by demons. The Horde is soon getting a new warchief and are returning to their old brutal and aggresive ways.
The Trolls were driven from their home in the Echo Isles. Other trolls summoned the Loa god Hakkar to the world.
The Dwarves found out more about the Old Gods and the Orgin of the Speices and World of Azeroth.

And much, much more.

The story is developing. Some people say that there is no story in WoW - but those have never played the game and I could easly make a good Wc3 campaign of WoW.
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posted December 29, 2008 01:23 AM

I don't like MMOs because I prefer JRPGs. And I don't like the monthly fee.
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posted December 29, 2008 01:26 AM

I can understand the monthly fee issues. I have two subscriptions, one for LOTRO (but I think I will freeze it, the game community is dead and it seems that there is no population at all) and one for WoW.
I dont think its expensive.

Its like a meal from McDonalds
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Adrius
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posted December 29, 2008 01:43 AM
Edited by Adrius at 01:51, 29 Dec 2008.

Oh believe me... Warcraft MUST have more things in common with Warhammer... there's no way around it. Everybody borrows stuff from eachother (Warhammer was among the earlier creations though)

Bah... it all comes down to this for me: It's not worth the money!

Sure, I would probably play it if it weren't for the monthly fee... but as it is now, I just don't think it's worth it (I'm pretty sure I would get bored though)


There's so much more things I can do for the money... like buy some hamburgers...

EDIT: Forget it... I hate it anyway. I can't make up my mind about this game...
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posted December 29, 2008 01:45 AM
Edited by DagothGares at 01:56, 29 Dec 2008.

sorry, xerox, but warhammer is more brutal than warcraft. Warcraft is kid friendly
(except the rogue abilities, they have very warhammer-like icons)

Habitual lag happens when server is overpopulated or a horde of average PC's come together in one area

Well, I had a respawner in enemy terrority in an area where PvP couldn't be turned off
I also had a level 60 guy in my starter area

Okay, those are the obvious ones, xerox. I'll cut down on the smileys.

I hate most other players, because of:
1) bad literacy is kool!
2) Those Damn Nigs and chinks with they bad social issues thingies ain't rite!
3) pwned suxxor!

I also hate them for being plain dumb and provocative in more means than one. I hate them for not immersing in the so-called 'great game' *wink* *wink* .I hate the brevity of most battles, like you said. The battles almost never involve skill, only who has the better, epix boots of Mcguffin and sword of pwnzzor. And even then you'll probably be killed by a random rogue anyway.

It takes forever to do the tailoring skill properly, which is just a faint attempt at lengthening gameplay. The way to find skill trainers and some quests are nigh impossible. I get killed easily by glitches or bugs, so I have to travel all the way back to my corpse. the flights are in need of a movie or something, because the envionment is monotonous enough to fall asleep during it and they get quite costly whenever I forget something in undercity. Banks and inventory is okay, but I am usually in bad need of inventory slots to work my objects around which I will probably never ever need but I carry them around in case of.

I also hate players who act like there is skill to it. I also hate players with bad litteracy and I cannot stress that enough! If you don't speak English, don't go on a server in that language, damnit!
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posted December 29, 2008 01:50 AM

Oh God, how could I forget that whole lore-convulting "Kil'jaeden's return" escapade?

What a waste of potential!

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