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xerox
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posted January 01, 2009 02:28 AM |
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Blizzard has planned this for years and their plan for world domination has already begun long ago.
But on the other hand, this means that you will play WoW, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2 completly free - there is only one monthly fee that is shared for all Blizzard games.
You also only jhave one account for all Blizzard games.
FOOLS! You think you can outthink Blizzard - but Blizzard knows about hamachi and how to make USELESS!
Now go and cry, while dreaming nightmares for paying 13 euros and month for playing all Blizzard games.
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Over himself, over his own
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted January 01, 2009 03:55 AM |
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you might even need to pay just to play single player.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why on earth would you need to play if all you're gonna do is play single player?
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted January 01, 2009 04:08 AM |
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LOL! Flagship Studios (Hellgate London developers) tried (something similar to) that via the Elite membership.
I heard the whole premise bombed, and it's not because the game sucks either. Apparently it's very good, but paying $10/month to play single-player "with perks" is just pathetic, IMO. 
I always had the feeling that game was going to suffer because of that.
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted January 01, 2009 04:15 AM |
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Now that I think about it... even if it's evil, this is an EXTREMLY smart move by Blizzard...
Scenario:
I couldn't resist Diablo III's awesomeness so I get it and actually pay the fee... but I get bored, I need new content! And since there's no Diablo III expansions out yet (Blizzard is smart enough to release their projects in "waves"), and I can play other Blizzard games for my fee, I start to play WoW... officially Blizz-infected.
Of course, umm... I'd never fall for such an evil scheme. I have willpower.
I think.
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Darkshadow
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Cerise Princess
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posted January 01, 2009 10:33 AM |
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Alot of sales lost from bliz.
Well, atleast Internet cafe players will be happy, cause they will only have to pay one fee.
Btw, if I would renew my WoW subscription, I would get to play online with both of those games for free?
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted January 01, 2009 01:52 PM |
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But on the other hand, this means that you will play WoW, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2 completly free - there is only one monthly fee that is shared for all Blizzard games.
Yeah, like it wasn't completely free before, except WoW 
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Mytical
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Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted January 01, 2009 02:47 PM |
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I love MMORPGS, I just got burned out on grinding in WoW.
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xerox
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posted January 01, 2009 04:15 PM |
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Okey, I just said that you would need to pay for single player just to be more annoying.
But you will defintly need to pay for multiplayer.
So if you play WoW, then all other Blizzard games will be free.
And yes Darkshadow, the monthly fee will be shared with all Blizzard games in the future and everything (even WoW) will be connected with a Battle.net account.
For me, this is great news 
But you will not able to resist to buy Starcraft 2 or Diablo III.
The dark tendrils of Blizzard lurks close...
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Over himself, over his own
body and
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted January 01, 2009 04:27 PM |
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What you don't seem to understand is that people don't hate the game itself (well maybe some people do) normally one "hates" what it does to people.
You are the perfect example. How can I not disgust something that makes a hopeful young person like yourself babble the nonsense you do?
You are totally blind. You are a desperate fanboy (eventhough I think you're pretty close to fanatism). You are completely ignorant and naive to anything anyone says about WoW that isn't positive. It obviously doesn't matter to you wether the person has a point or not. Just take this:
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Thats its addicting is not an option. All games can be addiciting and Blizzard did not intend the game to be like that.
You play professionally right? That means you either raid high instances or you play competetive PvP. Now neither of those options leave you with playing this game for less than 4 hours a day (and that's if you're lucky don't wipe, etc). The game is designed to be that time consumeing (sure there are cool off periods for an dungeon when you've finished it but coincedentally there are 3 other dungeons right next to it which you can raid for the next 3 days till dungeon a) is raidable again).
Dude read your on posts will you? How can I not dislike such a game?
But I don't entirely blame WoW, since of course you need a weak willed person to become addicted.
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Ah and Cepheus just reminded me of one reason I had already elaborated on in some Wacraft lore thread.
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For one thing, it just killed too much of what Warcraft III did right with the story. Having a cascade of idiots strolling into the Black Citadel, releasing a character thought to be dead and slaughtering Illidan Stormrage just didn't cut it... no matter how "epic" it may have been to "experience".
I agree completely. You can't kill people like Ilidan, The Lick King, Kaehl Tuzhad (spelling lol), etc. YOU CAN'T! But yeah blizzard will do anything to their once good story line just to please a bunch of players. Meh .
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted January 01, 2009 04:41 PM |
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The game is designed to be that time consumeing (sure there are cool off periods for an dungeon when you've finished it but coincedentally there are 3 other dungeons right next to it which you can raid for the next 3 days till dungeon a) is raidable again).
That's because some people may enjoy to play more after finishing one dungeon. Who says that you have to raid all of them if you don't want? If there wouldn't be any more dungeons left those players who would like to play more would be disappointed. Now with multiple dungeons everyone's happy. Those that don't want to play so much can raid only one, while the others are able to raid more. I don't see what's the problem here? Except, as you said, those that are weak willed who will attempt to play day and night without any breaks just because they won't be able to think rational when playing the game.
But then, that's not a MMO-only feature, there are some other incredible addicting games to some people (I heard someone died because of playing too much Counter-Strike and didn't eat, etc ). And the weak willed people will also probably do other stupid things outside playing video games anyway.
Well I'm not defending WoW with this post, I'm defending all MMOs, because I don't think they're so bad, except the damn monthly fee (well WoW has other things I don't like which I explained in my first post, but that's another story)
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Azagal
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Smooth Snake
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posted January 01, 2009 04:51 PM |
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Ash you may be right about your variety thing but read my statement as a reply to:
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Thats its addicting is not an option. All games can be addiciting and Blizzard did not intend the game to be like that.
What? I don't know if you play mmorpg's but if you want to go anywhere in that game you need to play competetively. It forces you to do so. It's as Dagoth said in the beginning your "sucess" is determined by your gear. And the good stuff is only in dungeons that take 4-6 hours of your god damn time. 6!!! That's 1/4 of a day oO not counting stuff like working, eating and sleeping oO. And you don't want to be a looser, and you don't want to pay money to just be medicore, insert any random reason sooner or later people will be forced to play highend.
And the people who don't play high end usually quit the game in most cases.
And how do you raid succesfully? You join a guild. Now in that guild you will have certain responsabilities and depending on your position you will have to be present at every freakin raid oO (tanks and priest par example). And that guild will most likely not just be satisfied with raiding once a week. Guilds are highend competetive teams they have a raiding shedule for crying out loud oO. There is nothing wrong with being organised don't get me wrong^^. It's just that you don't have time once you're in there.
EDIT: And you are perfectly right about the weak willed people. I didn't want to claim that it was a phenomenon exquisitly beloning to WoW.
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Oscarius
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 04:54 PM |
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But you will not able to resist to buy Starcraft 2 or Diablo III.
I'm going to find it real easy....
Atleast with the upcoming release of DoW 2 and my hatred of Multiplayer-RPG's 
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted January 01, 2009 05:07 PM |
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And you don't want to be a looser, and you don't want to pay money to just be medicore
The monthly fee issue - exactly my problem I have with MMOs.
@Oscarius: Same for me, never was a 'crazy' fun for Starcraft (although it's a pretty good game, I like some others more, like Spellforce 1, HoMM 5, etc). Diablo 3 will also be resisted, heck, I didn't even try out Warhammer Online because of the monthly fee, I'll resist Diablo 3 as well then
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DagothGares
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No gods or kings
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posted January 01, 2009 05:35 PM |
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you might even need to pay just to play single player.
Pretty much impossible, since you'll disappoint people without internet (like I had, eight months ago).You'll disappoint people who have little money and are about to be threatened by MS corporation to paying 
You'll also be pretty much a bastard and we'll turn to alternatives. Hell, if this monthly thing passes by, I'll gladly pay for anything non-blizz... Or I'll enjoy NWN 2 online untill infinity...
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 06:51 PM |
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bad part about those games is that they are heavily gear-centered. My mate plays pro WoW and says that without good gear, you suck big time, no matter how good you are.
And getting good gear is not a matter of luck anymore, since rich & bored people are buying gear and accounts for real life money.
So you either go to nolife mode, or buy your gear.. or suck. That's what I don't like in those games. It's like amateur car races (in a straight line). What is the damn point if you can't beat a guy in a car stronger than yours? Just because he has more spare cash lol (or spare time)
Competition is fun when ppl can hone their skills and get experience, not when it's their wallet that matters :/
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TheDeath
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with serious business
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posted January 01, 2009 06:55 PM |
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IMO I agree 100%.
Gear (items) and 'looting' are the worst thing ever to happen in most RPGs because they don't handle them properly. It is what I hate the most in all those classic RPGs. At least those have alternatives and sometimes mods, not so with MMOs.
Next thing would be levelling-up power-gaming (not the level-up concept, but when it's made for power-gaming, it SUCKS).
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Doomforge
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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 07:01 PM |
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Looting isn't the worst.. botting for loot, on the other hand, is. Because while there is SOME point in looting (some people like it), but botting actually autoplays the game for you, thus, making the very CORE of playing pointless.
Diablo 2 is a finest example of a game that went through all levels of degeneration and hit the rock bottom - that place is such a mess nowadays, almost everyone is a cheater, dupper, botter or abuser.
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TheDeath
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with serious business
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posted January 01, 2009 07:03 PM |
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No that means looting is the worst, because that's WHY people make the bots, because of the system. It's like someone making a certain "patch" for Windows cause you'll have to pay monthly -- and the patch crashes your computer. It's not the fault of that guy, it's the fault of Windows for making him do it
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Doomforge
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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 07:07 PM |
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Well, we can go further, it's not looting but certain people's inability to play fair or get unfair advantage over others by exploiting bugs or paying for something in real life.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 01, 2009 07:10 PM |
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So in a similar vein: "it's not your fault for cheating at / hacking into X game, it's the developers' fault for not imposing FBI-class security measures to prevent you from doing so" 
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