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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 07:12 PM |
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agree with Cepheus, but hey, let's not go deeper into philosophy, I'm afraid that a quote war may follow 
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We reached to the stars and everything is now ours
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 07:18 PM |
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Actualy, im not a into hardcore gaming etc at all 
I dont play nearly as much as I did before (because since I have played the game for a so long time, it slowly becomes more and more boring).
My guild sucks. We have not killed many bosses in the entry raid dungeon Naxxramas yet and usually need to get pick up group healers.
WoW is a very causal friendly. In two days, I got 4-5 epic quality items by just doing some heroic-difficulity instances which anybody can do.
You dont need to play more then 4 hours a day to be a good player.
Its not gear dependant either. When I started raiding I had no epic quality gear, only superior and green gear.
I still out-damaged most of the people in my raid.
WoW tries to be like this:
"Bring the player, not the class" and "Easy to learn, hard to master" (quotes by Blizzard).
You dont need good gear - you need skill. You need to know to play your class etc
Many bosses require excellent teamwork and tactics etc instead of gear.
Its not hard at all to get good gear either. Do an heroic dungeon or two per day (heroic dungeons takes like one hour) and you get 1-2 epics a week from vendors + several epic quality gear from the bosses and reputation vendor rewards.
WoW has never been more causal friendly - and many people on the official forums (which are horrible) whines about the content beign to easy etc.
Guess what? All hardcore dungeons were taken down in the first three days of WotLK by the top guild Ensidia.
I didnt act as I do on this forums untill people started like "omg he plays WoW, nerd nerd!!!".
Then I thought it was funny (and still think) to pretend that I am fanatic of Blizzard of WoW.
Its not like I talk like this to my parents and friends
Its funny and I thought people saw that it is a joke.
Also I agreed on the lore part, like 50%. Lots of lore characters died in Warcraft 3 too - whats the big deal?
Guess what, mostly the players dont kill the lore characters. Other lore characters does and there is usually a huge story behind them (see Black Temple where Maeiv and Akama cooperates or Sunwell with the whole complex Aldor/Scryer thing people here will never understand) .
THE PLAYERS DONT KILL MAJOR LORE CHARACTERS!
Please dont lie more.
The story is good so shut up.
Also "Frostwolf" is from Warcraft 
There is an orc clan called the Frostwolfs who didnt drink demon blood. Thrall is one of them and there is a warcraft book about them called "Lord of the Clans".
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
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- John Stuart Mill
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted January 01, 2009 07:22 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 19:24, 01 Jan 2009.
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See what I mean? You're a slave. Brainwashed lol. "Discussion" is completely pointless you don't accept any point anybody brings xD.
Tzz...
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to pretend
You don't. You pretend that "Blizzard will take over the world" crap, yes (if you wouldn't lol). But you mean everything else you say.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 07:22 PM |
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???
I have seen bots, and there is an option to report those players to Blizzard -.-
Result? The whole account gets locked forever.
I have yet to see a hacker in WoW although I exploit the game myself (usually some bug that gets hotfixed in a week). Exploting doesnt hurt other players.
Its called griefing when you destroy other players experience.
Although it is ****ing annoying to get chinese gold sellers spam you all the time when its über easy to get money now unless you are complete noob.
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
sovereign.
- John Stuart Mill
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 07:24 PM |
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Did you even read the post?
If you stop act like 50 IQ people then I might stop do that, because to me its funny.
In every single thread I post in, some yerk says something about me and Blizzard games. Of course I respond, usually silly.
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
sovereign.
- John Stuart Mill
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted January 01, 2009 07:26 PM |
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Quote:
Did you even read the post?
If you stop act like 50 IQ people then I might stop do that, because to me its funny.
In every single thread I post in, some yerk says something about me and Blizzard games. Of course I respond, usually silly.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
sorry, I'll only say, that "and the story is good, so shut up" is a 1000+ IQ sentence
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The above post is subject to SIRIOUSness.
No jokes were harmed during the making of this signature.
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted January 01, 2009 07:28 PM |
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Quote:
So in a similar vein: "it's not your fault for cheating at / hacking into X game, it's the developers' fault for not imposing FBI-class security measures to prevent you from doing so" 
No, it's more like:
"It's not your fault for cheating at / hacking into X game, it's the developers' fault for making you even WANT to do that"
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The above post is subject to SIRIOUSness.
No jokes were harmed during the making of this signature.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted January 01, 2009 07:28 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 19:30, 01 Jan 2009.
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Quote:
In every single thread I post in, some yerk says something about me and Blizzard games.
Yes that is stupid and not appropriate. That doesn't change the fact that you are a freakin slave to that game. In this entire thread you haven't said "Ah yes ok that is bad about WoW" you didn't even say something like "Aha... I see your point but I still think" you always say "NO IT'S NOT!!" (biggest achievement was you saying it's 50% true lol).
Have you in this entire thread admited that somebody has a point? I don't think you did. Are you telling me everybody who raised a point here was wrong (you actually did but I want to hear you say it)?
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Also "Frostwolf" is a WoW character
Yeah well there also is a Frostwolf outside of WoW and he happend to say that. Can you imagine ?
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted January 01, 2009 07:31 PM |
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Easy to learn, hard to master
Yes, I know how hard it is to find Boots of Mcguffin and sword of Pwnzzor...
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 01, 2009 07:35 PM |
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Quote:
In every single thread I post in, some yerk says something about me and Blizzard games.
Maybe if you changed your custom status to something other than "Harbinger of Warcraft"...
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted January 01, 2009 07:41 PM |
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Anyway, it hardly matters. The classes are pretty much like alternative upgrades. You CAN go for master hunter (*ahem*destructive warlock*ahem*), but you'd rather go for Arcane archer(corruptive warlock), since it's better in most situations you'll use it!
You say it requires skill, but all tactics threads i've seen is 'make sure you get Boots of McGuffin, chainmail vest of Epix and awesome-o leggins with this build...' Never is there a suggestion for an alternative build, since noone wants those in raids. You will make sure your warrior is a tank and not a damage dealer, since that's what they're meant to be. You will make sure your warlock goes to DPS instead of summoning or crowd control, because that's what everyone looks for in a raid. You will make sure you're not a shadow priest, because everyone will ask you to be healbot. You can, you can, you can, but it (the game and the whiney players) will only hate you more for it, if you choose a creative character.
So where is the role-playing game, if your role is already set?!
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Oscarius
Famous Hero
*sleepy*
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posted January 01, 2009 07:50 PM |
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Edited by Oscarius at 19:51, 01 Jan 2009.
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You dont need good gear - you need skill. You need to know to play your class etc
Which more often than not is mashing the hotkeys...... Something like press 3, press 4, then press 5, rinse and repeat...
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Many bosses require excellent teamwork and tactics etc instead of gear.
Ok, now it's get veeery complicated, synchronised hotkey mashing 
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Its not hard at all to get good gear either. Do an heroic dungeon or two per day (heroic dungeons takes like one hour)
Not counting the time to gear up, buy your potions or whatever and get there.......
Which mean 2 hours per day + Buying and walking/flying.....
What if you don't have that time, and that's only the "dungeons" play, no quest or anything...... Real fun 
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted January 01, 2009 07:52 PM |
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Ok, now it's get veeery complicated, synchronised hotkey mashing
Ahahahahaa thanks man that comment made my day xD.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted January 01, 2009 07:55 PM |
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i've read each and every post in this thread and...
1.) What company doesn't advise you to use its products? its silly to encourage your customers to shop somewhere else.
2.)iirc you need to pay extra for each campaign in sc2
3.)Quote:
I agree completely. You can't kill people like Ilidan, The Lick King, Kaehl Tuzhad (spelling lol), etc. YOU CAN'T!
Azagal (i must've been looking at a post by ceph.)
I've killed gods, jedi, titans, etc why not a Demon hero, undead sovereign or a necromancer?
After all it is a role playing game, power to you if you want your character to clash blades with legendary figures.
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You can, you can, you can, but it (the game and the whiney players) will only hate you more for it, if you choose a creative character.
Dagoth
I for one prefer to use the underdogs, and fight for the weaker side. its more satisfying when you accomplish something. Like beating a game of hard can be more satisfying than beating it on easy.
Being competitive doesn't mean you are having fun. Overcoming all odds and setting challenges makes the game interesting and fun
Thats just my twenty-three and a half cents. ofc
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted January 01, 2009 08:01 PM |
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I've killed gods, jedi, titans, etc why not a Demon hero, undead sovereign or a necromancer
That was me btw^^.
I mean I personally believe that it is horrible to let the greatest and most powerful heroes of an entire time (as they are portraied in Warcraft III) be killed by a bunch of nobodys.
It's as if you were able to kill Sauron, Gandalf and Aragorn in a Lord of the Rings RPG. It's just wrong. Now if big epic heroes kill each other that is anohter story (That Maeve killing Illidan thing doesn't count since you do the biggest part of it lol).
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted January 01, 2009 08:03 PM |
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I for one prefer to use the underdogs, and fight for the weaker side. its more satisfying when you accomplish something. Like beating a game of hard can be more satisfying than beating it on easy.
Being competitive doesn't mean you are having fun. Overcoming all odds and setting challenges makes the game interesting and fun
You don't get me, mamga... Some characters simply aren't allowed on raids or will be hated forever, if they do join the way they shouldn't be built (a damage dealing warrior for example). To put in another, less vague, way. You'll only be able to achieve something single player or quests in group, no raids or black temple or whatever. If you don't fulfill the specific role your character is set out to be (I gave three examples already), you pretty much will suck at raiding and will roam the lands by your lonesome, unless maybe in an RP-server, where powergamers are rather rare and the laws of creativity allow you to band together for actually no particular in-game reason...
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Mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted January 01, 2009 08:05 PM |
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Being rejected is unfortunately part of being the underdog.
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 01, 2009 08:06 PM |
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Yeah, Warcraft Lore:
year 100: Arthas becomes one with Lich King, becoming the most powerful entity in the world
year 105: Arthas the Lich King gets slain by rectum_owner, gnomish fighter from the clan gimme_loot
how sweet.
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We reached to the stars and everything is now ours
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doomnezeu
Supreme Hero
Miaumiaumiau
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posted January 01, 2009 08:08 PM |
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Quote:
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I for one prefer to use the underdogs, and fight for the weaker side. its more satisfying when you accomplish something. Like beating a game of hard can be more satisfying than beating it on easy.
Being competitive doesn't mean you are having fun. Overcoming all odds and setting challenges makes the game interesting and fun
You don't get me, mamga... Some characters simply aren't allowed on raids or will be hated forever, if they do join the way they shouldn't be built (a damage dealing warrior for example). To put in another, less vague, way. You'll only be able to achieve something single player or quests in group, no raids or black temple or whatever. If you don't fulfill the specific role your character is set out to be (I gave three examples already), you pretty much will suck at raiding and will roam the lands by your lonesome, unless maybe in an RP-server, where powergamers are rather rare and the laws of creativity allow you to band together for actually no particular in-game reason...
You are obviously in the wrong guild mate.
DPS warrior? Always a welcome class.
I, for one, play a balance druid from the freaking beginning of the game, and I have never ever have been refused in a raid. And I am also allowed to roll on cloth, pissing off useless mages and warlocks.
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Mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted January 01, 2009 08:09 PM |
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Yeah, Warcraft Lore:
year 100: Arthas becomes one with Lich King, becoming the most powerful entity in the world
year 105: Arthas the Lich King gets slain by rectum_owner, gnomish fighter from the clan gimme_loot
how sweet.
Its his story, power to him.
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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