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TheDeath
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posted January 09, 2009 08:32 PM

Quote:
D&D alignment system indeed stinks
I like how people say that it stinks when they

1) Don't come up with something better
2) Probably don't understand the concept of the system



@Ash: No I did that before and it'll end with "Don't you see that phrase is Chaotic Neutral?" (when I gave even quotes, regarding the government in that thread of course), and then "You know what? I'm done talking to you."
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phoenixreborn
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posted January 09, 2009 08:32 PM

Thread killing is making offtopic comments in a thread in a way that discourages other posters from continuing their serious discussion.

Provocation is unfriendly behavior that causes anger or resentment from others. Aggravation is causing, continuing or increasing irritation or trouble.

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TheDeath
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posted January 09, 2009 08:42 PM

I've got a question, is this something you copy paste from somewhere all the time without thinking or even looking at the thread title?
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Mamgaeater
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posted January 09, 2009 08:47 PM

i've said this many times. i am lawful chaotic.(not the same thing as neutral)
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Asheera
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posted January 09, 2009 08:47 PM
Edited by Asheera at 20:48, 09 Jan 2009.

@Death: That's from the FAQ foo

Please if you want to discuss about this longer get online and use HCM, let's not derail the thread about FAQ and such...
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TheDeath
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posted January 09, 2009 08:53 PM

I know, wasn't that my point?
And I never said or posted anything about the FAQ

In all seriousness, the thing with Lawful Evil wasn't really exactly how I am lol, it's more like some sort of fantasy
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 09, 2009 09:04 PM

Wow.  You make me look like a saint, Ash. (Not you though, Bak. )

Detailed Results:

Alignment:
Lawful Good ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (35)
Neutral Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (28)
Chaotic Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (20)
Lawful Neutral -- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (27)
True Neutral ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (20)
Chaotic Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXX (12)
Lawful Evil ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (18)
Neutral Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXX (11)
Chaotic Evil ---- XXX (3)

Law & Chaos:
Law ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (17)
Neutral - XXXXXXXXXX (10)
Chaos --- XX (2)

Good & Evil:
Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (18)
Neutral - XXXXXXXXXX (10)
Evil ---- X (1)

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Card_Ximinez
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posted January 09, 2009 09:04 PM

Whoa!

Quote:
You Are:

Chaotic Evil


Chaotic Evil- A chaotic evil character does whatever his greed, hatred, and lust for destruction drive him to do. He is hot-tempered, vicious, arbitrarily violent, and unpredictable. If he is simply out for whatever he can get, he is ruthless and brutal. If he is committed to the spread of evil and chaos, he is even worse. Thankfully, his plans are haphazard, and any groups he joins or forms are poorly organized. Typically, chaotic evil people can be made to work together only by force, and their leader lasts only as long as he can thwart attempts to topple or assassinate him. Chaotic evil is sometimes called demonic because demons are the epitome of chaotic evil. Chaotic evil is the best alignment you can be because combines self-interest and pure freedom. However, chaotic evil can be a dangerous alignment because it represents the destruction not only of beauty and life but also of the order on which beauty and life depend.

Detailed Results:

Alignment:
Lawful Good ----- XXXXXXXX (8)
Neutral Good ---- XXXXXXXXXX (10)
Chaotic Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (14)
Lawful Neutral -- XXXXXXXX (8)
True Neutral ---- XXXXXXXXXX (10)
Chaotic Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (14)
Lawful Evil ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (16)
Neutral Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (18)
Chaotic Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (22)

Law & Chaos:
Law ----- XXXX (4)
Neutral - XXXXXX (6)
Chaos --- XXXXXXXXXX (10)

Good & Evil:
Good ---- XXXX (4)
Neutral - XXXX (4)
Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXX (12)

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TheDeath
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posted January 09, 2009 09:12 PM

Card_Ximinez, you're an evil psychotic bastard
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Card_Ximinez
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posted January 09, 2009 09:18 PM

Quote:
Card_Ximinez, you're an evil psychotic bastard


So it would seem...
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Doomforge
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posted January 09, 2009 09:25 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 21:26, 09 Jan 2009.

nobody came with a better system but it doesn't justify that D&D one stinks.

It does.

Just because it tries to cram personalities into nine stupid types which are too binary for my taste, yeah you are chaotic evil cuz you k1ll k1ll k111111l and what if you spend some time killing and some time being goody goody two shoe, you are what, neutral? lol

And if you say 50/50 good and bad means you're evil, why do you have the same label as a person who only k1llz stuff, while your personality is obviously very different?

most of people have mixed good and evil inside their hearts

what's worse, the system doesn't check for situational/relative good/evil, simplifying it a lot

So it's perfect for general info about a RPG char, but completely inaccurate when it comes to RL persons

period
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veco
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posted January 09, 2009 09:40 PM

seconded
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TheDeath
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posted January 09, 2009 09:49 PM

Uh no, the system is made to represent your most 'influenced' attitude, or the one that influences you most. Obviously you can be evil at X and good at Y, but which one of them influences you more? (it is a real continuous spectrum, not black & white).

And by coming up with something better, I meant not invent it yourself -- you can give examples of other systems if they're better.

Saying a system that tries to classify people is stupid means you can do better or KNOW of a better system. If this is the "best" system (best is relative to others) then how can you call it stupid?

NOTE: I know there are more complex systems out there but they're either too complicated for the average joe to comprehend, or they're not accurate either.
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posted January 09, 2009 09:59 PM

Interesting how both Law and Chaos are higher than Neutral. What does that mean?

Alignment:
Lawful Good ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (17)
Neutral Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (14)
Chaotic Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (15)
Lawful Neutral -- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (23)
True Neutral ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (20)
Chaotic Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (21)
Lawful Evil ----- XXXXXXXXXXX (11)
Neutral Evil ---- XXXXXXXX (8)
Chaotic Evil ---- XXXXXXXXX (9)

Law & Chaos:
Law ----- XXXXXXXXX (9)
Neutral - XXXXXX (6)
Chaos --- XXXXXXX (7)

Good & Evil:
Good ---- XXXXXXXX (8)
Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (14)
Evil ---- XX (2)

TheDeath:
An example of a better system: utilitarianism.
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Doomforge
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posted January 09, 2009 10:06 PM

It's like democracy. Best doesn't mean good.
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zamfir
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posted January 09, 2009 10:21 PM

TRUE NEUTRAL

Alignment:
   Lawful Good ----- XXXXXXXXXXXXX (13)
   Neutral Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (19)
   Chaotic Good ---- XXXXXXXXXXXX (12)
   Lawful Neutral -- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (16)
   True Neutral ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (22)
   Chaotic Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (15)
   Lawful Evil ----- XXXXXXXXXXX (11)
   Neutral Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (17)
   Chaotic Evil ---- XXXXXXXXXX (10)

Law & Chaos:
   Law ----- XXXXXX (6)
   Neutral - XXXXXXXXXXXX (12)
   Chaos --- XXXXX (5)

Good & Evil:
   Good ---- XXXXXXX (7)
   Neutral - XXXXXXXXXX (10)
   Evil ---- XXXXX (5)


But I don't really trust this.
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Geny
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posted January 09, 2009 10:39 PM
Edited by Geny at 22:41, 09 Jan 2009.

A good thread that drowned in a sea of DnD talk.
Curse the one who posted the link to the test! (was it mamga? I really hope it was mamga.)

EDIT: No, it was Ash. I should've known, a noob like her wouldn't know that we already had a thread about that.

@Lex
If Pan is Lawful Good, and I'm her "fanatical" follower, than how am I Lawful Neutral?
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posted January 09, 2009 10:41 PM
Edited by baklava at 22:43, 09 Jan 2009.

GURPS is about a dozen times better than DnD but let's not get into that. You guys have derailed the thread enough

I wanted to avoid tests like this, though. The thread was supposed to be about fun charts and witty responses, not a bunch of "X" letters which no one (except the one who took the test) really gives a crap about.

Oh well.
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Asheera
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posted January 09, 2009 10:41 PM

If you haven't guessed, this thread is based on the D&D alignments... of course there will be D&D talk, d'oh
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 09, 2009 10:42 PM

@Ash
Read the edit.
This is about how we look here, not how the test portrays us.
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