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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted February 06, 2009 08:19 PM |
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Originally I had planned to use dragons but if I can't make then differ enough, I will use something else. Phoenix sounds good alternative since it's neutral and not seen in other factions!
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vojthus
Adventuring Hero
Waking Up
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posted February 06, 2009 09:17 PM |
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Since you haven't started working on hero model, I made something like this:
And?
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 06, 2009 11:07 PM |
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looks like a monster from viking mithologies.
frost giant?
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Darkwulf
Hired Hero
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posted February 06, 2009 11:57 PM |
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Looks good, but the armor is slightly too grey, needs some colour
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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 10:28 AM |
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Edited by kainc at 10:39, 07 Feb 2009.
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@Vojthus
Nice model. The thing is, Beastmasters are no longer demons, more human and elven like. That's why I was thinking to use Vampire model as hero. I've made a couple of hero icons, faces, whatever they are called already. Sorry mate, that character looks cool anyways.
Anyway, here are the heroes I've made so far (I have to color them later, of course)
They don't have name or bio ready. But I will make 'em for sure. And there will be more.
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vojthus
Adventuring Hero
Waking Up
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posted February 07, 2009 11:26 AM |
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Did you think of using Raelag unmounted model??
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Darkwulf
Hired Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 01:07 PM |
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They're good sketches, BTW, did you have any idea for the tier 6?
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sojlex
Hired Hero
www.homm5.info member
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posted February 07, 2009 01:29 PM |
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Hmmmmm , i think the hero model will be better , when the hero will be riding on stronghold mount [he is the master of beasts ...] , and make an ... i know ! Elven archer model as rider ...
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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 02:37 PM |
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Edited by kainc at 15:03, 07 Feb 2009.
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Good point. I was thinking that Oblivion heroes will differ from other heroes using non-mounted model... but since they are indeed BEASTmasters...
I'll avoid using unmodded Raelag since he's already Dungeon hero. But I could mount him to Stronghold hero's beast (that huge buffalo or whatever). The thing is, I've never messed two different models and don't know how to do it.. so if someone could help me with this by giving instructions or actually making the hero itself. If not, I can do it, but it will take more time since I'll have to figure out how it's done.
I have planned some changes (that I will actually make, when I'll get back home). Here are some things I'm going to change:
- Tier 2: Tamer, Animal Trainer and Beast Tamer models will be replaced: Haven priest and cleric models will be replaced with druids + upgs modded models.
- Tier 4: Wild Horse, Mustang and Tarpan will be entirely replaced with neutral elementals. There will be no base and upgrade creatures (technically yes, but with abilities no), but 3 different elementals instead: modded air as Uni's Hope, modded fire as Uni's Desire (shooter), modded water as Uni's Dream (shooter). They'll cost money + resources and have balanced attributes between tier 4 base and their upgrades.
- Tier 5: Large creature Reptile using Dark Rider's lizard as a model. Upgrades will be Pure Lizard and Beast Rider using lizard + rider.
- Tier 6 is bit open atm, restrictions are: no shooter (already 2: tier 2 and 4), no large creature (already tier 3 and 5).
- Tier 7 will most likely have Phoenix model as suggested by Darkwulf.
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Darkwulf
Hired Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 04:28 PM |
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Ive had an idea!, for tier 6, get the magma dragon, then turn the magma to a black/void-like colour, dunno what you would do with the rocks though
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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 04:49 PM |
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Good idea, but it's large creature and I have 2 of them already  Techically it's not a problem because it's very easy to turn 'em into small/large, but perhaps visually it's akward. But I'll try drop Gryhus into size 1 and see if it is ok.
Magma Dragon could be nice black-darkblue void like creature indeed. A bit like the starscape background in town.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 06:39 PM |
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could be a problem to have a small non-shooter tier 6. it may not look very powerful. unless maybe if they have a high growth, like slayers.
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sojlex
Hired Hero
www.homm5.info member
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posted February 07, 2009 07:18 PM |
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you could try something from orcs or demons , but edited like :
- Blue succubus with sword , or club
- shaman with shield and wand
Or make based on h3 creature beast ...
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Darkwulf
Hired Hero
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posted February 07, 2009 11:41 PM |
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Could use my idea, call it something like 'void incarnae' give it a nasty ability like regen/rebirth, or give it some nasty spells like raise dead or the like
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sith_of_ziost
Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
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posted February 08, 2009 02:03 AM |
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First of, my apologies for being absent for some constructive criticism. Due to an unavoidable and unforseeable series of events, I have been afk for a week. I'm here now, so here's my thoughts thus far:
- I like your griffins the best, very nice departure from the norm.
- Giovanni's Hero model is a great start, and some drapering of new textures shoul be able to mix it up, and perhaps Kujin unmounted or Isabel unmounter would make good female characters.
- For Tier 6, may I suggest using the Thane Model, but bereft of armor and more beard like a Giant or maybe a splice between it and the Snow Ape textures and effects to make a Yeti or Wendigo, which would be nice. The Tier 5 Orc can be compatible too.
- Given any thought to tweaking the Racial yet?
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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2009 12:34 PM |
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Edited by kainc at 11:30, 11 Feb 2009.
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Welcome back, sith. Hopefully these events included nothing bad or negative.
Many good suggestions you all have made there. I really have to consider the ideas you have given me and see what suits best for the faction.
Tier 6, small, non-shooter is bit tricky since I'll have to use effects and stuff to make it look more powerful... and it's not sure thing that tier 6 will be small non-shooter at all. No. 1 thing is, what will suit the Oblivion theme best.
About racial skills and abilities: since they are pretty much hard coded, I have very limited options in tweaking 'em. Here are some things done or yet to be done:
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Gating is known as Seizure and it now only affects animals (dogs, gryphies, etc.) to be more logical. Since all creatures (humans, elves) can't be Seized, I've raised the numbers (percent) of Seized creatures for every level (basic, advanced, expert...).
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted February 08, 2009 04:13 PM |
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Kind of a useless comment here, but: Kickass icon! 
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sith_of_ziost
Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
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posted February 08, 2009 05:59 PM |
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Indeed. Nice, but surely the Racial Perks will require some tweaking as well, maybe something that has to do with Poison for Hellfire, and perhaps Eye of the Predator for Mark of the Damned. I'm rather stumped on Consume Corpse. The Uber skill can remain the same, just renamed to Uni's Call.
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DarkCrystal
Promising
Supreme Hero
Staright out of line
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posted February 09, 2009 01:55 PM |
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Very nice! Like your Griphuses, especially black one, and I very like that "Black Water elemental", his texture is awesome.  Trailer is well, but don't you think it's a bit imbalansed that you have two creatures-casters? Maybe make this beast tamers with only shooting. But do as you want, it's only my opinion. Btw, if you need some help, I can help you. 
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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2009 02:02 PM |
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Yes, I may drop tier 2 creatures' spells since tier 4 is kinda strong compared to other factions tier 4 (that's why they cost resources).
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