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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Schools of Magic : Summoning Magic
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Zenithale
Zenithale


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posted July 17, 2010 05:17 PM

Fantom works with MotW but you need enough free adjacent tiles.
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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


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posted July 17, 2010 09:58 PM

there were enough adjacent tiles but he still didn't double. any more thoughts?
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Arcax
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Its quite hot inside...
posted July 18, 2010 12:28 AM

I hope you know that if you hit a phantom with a vampirisied unit it drains all the artificial hp of the target. Nice resurrection action
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted July 18, 2010 01:35 AM

not enough mana?

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Vangelis21
Vangelis21


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posted July 18, 2010 07:15 AM

@Fauch: I had enough mana for sure because i tried to double phantom 3 times but i couldn't!

@Arcax: Although i haven't tested it i would doubt what you said for the simple reason that the description of the spell is pretty obvious. you get HP depending on the damage you dealt and not anything else. It would be interesting to know what others that have tested it know!
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Elvin
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posted July 18, 2010 01:31 PM

Phantoms do have 1 hp and vampiric units still drain normally like they'd attack the original target. That's a bug since the original H5, they never got around to fixing it.
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Vangelis21
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posted July 18, 2010 04:48 PM

yes but you still drains as much as your damage was. not the whole HP of the stack as if it was more than 1hp
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Arcax
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posted July 18, 2010 04:56 PM
Edited by Arcax at 16:56, 18 Jul 2010.

When you kill a phantom the bar says that you have dealt damage equal to the targets hp. So its quite a lot of damage And Vangelis sorry for not responding but Im quite far away from home so I cant join, though Id love to.
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Fauch
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posted July 18, 2010 05:06 PM

actually, life drain shouldn't work at all. the phantom should be elemental or something

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Vangelis21
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posted July 18, 2010 05:41 PM

elemental means "one of the elements" aka fire, water etc etc so they are definitely NOT elementals!
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Zenithale
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posted July 18, 2010 07:24 PM

Vangelis, why don't you share a replay or a screenshot of your issue?
I tried again just for you:
1) MotW on Rhakshasa (green box);
2) Cast Phantom on Genies:

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Fauch
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posted July 19, 2010 12:41 AM
Edited by Fauch at 00:42, 19 Jul 2010.

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elemental means "one of the elements" aka fire, water etc etc so they are definitely NOT elementals!

why only one of them?
I meant, elemental in the sense that they aren't alive. maybe mechanical would sound more logical? in the sense of a physical force.

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Vangelis21
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posted July 19, 2010 07:54 AM
Edited by Vangelis21 at 08:00, 19 Jul 2010.

thanks zenithale. i don't have a replay though
any chance because i cast phantom on the elementals? but they BECAME double, the rajas failed! i will try again and see what happens!

LOL i thought of trying it in the game's duels in hotseat but it crashes everytime i choose the second player! what's up with that?
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alisapa1211
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posted July 19, 2010 03:15 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 15:23, 19 Jul 2010.

Is it good to take Fire Warrior to make sure that we always summon Fire Elementals?
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 19, 2010 03:25 PM

Only if opponent cannot kill you fast enough. +40% boost plus always fire is nice but they are too slow for fast paced battles.
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Vangelis21
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posted July 19, 2010 03:42 PM

let me give you an example alisapa. in one of my games last week i had academy and the opponent orcs. I was sure that he wouldn't pick shatter summoning so I experimented with summoning ( btw this is the game where my rajas wouldn't phantom!)

So I had the fire warriors (if you are planning to cast elementals then you MUST have fire warriors). After i summoned them i cast phantom on them so I had two. They played one after the other. Guess what... Two one attack with each and 5 cyclopes dead
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Zenithale
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posted July 19, 2010 04:33 PM
Edited by Zenithale at 16:34, 19 Jul 2010.

Quote:
any chance because i cast phantom on the elementals? but they BECAME double, the rajas failed!

It works with elemental too. Maybe rajas "failed" because of a fire trap.

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LOL i thought of trying it in the game's duels in hotseat but it crashes everytime i choose the second player! what's up with that?

Probably because you had Elvin's duel map in the Maps folder, since Elvin removed the New Arena MOD from his map without correcting the Duel mode part (look at the battlefield list in game: a lot of "empty", which cause crashs).
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Vangelis21
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posted July 19, 2010 04:50 PM

1. fire trap? why?

2. probably that's the case!
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Zenithale
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posted July 19, 2010 06:18 PM

Quote:
1. fire trap? why?

Phamtom on a fire trap --> explosion --> Phantom disappears immediatly.
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Vangelis21
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posted July 19, 2010 08:02 PM

so do you mean that the game doesn't allow a phantom to appear on there or that it appeared, died and i didn't notice?
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