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|  posted January 27, 2009 09:54 PM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:You must have a really bad memoryPHASE 1
 You posted something negative on CH about what Ash posted there.  On CH I said why can't you leave her alone here and on CH.  You said "Leave HC out of it".
 
  Cause personally, it's like someone else talking.
 And what's ironic was that it wasn't even negative. But you actually seem to have a "OMG TheDeath posted/replied to Asheera!" -- obviously threads or cliches made by others don't bother you... I see your point (see: Lexxan)
 
 
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|  posted January 27, 2009 09:58 PM |  |  |  
 
| Is it just me or is it getting more and more difficult to tell which parts of which posts are actually serious in this thread... |  
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|  posted January 27, 2009 10:07 PM |  |  |  
 
| @Cepheus: no one seems to answer when I ask how to make the OSM more attractive to newcomers.  Also people are focusing on the 2 posts per day example and not acknowledging that my words actually said lets work out a limit per time ratio. 
 Here's the whole exchange at CH
 
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 Quote:By the way, what are your favorite movies? Mine:
 
 1. Lord of the Rings movies (the Two Towers especially)
 2. Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God
 3. The Matrix movies
 4. Earthsea
 5. Pitch Black
 6. The Terminator movies
 
 (from my current chaotic thoughts, for sure missed some
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 Borsuc wrote:
 
 Quote:hey Ash I bet you missed a lot, how many movies did you actually watch?
  
 
 Asheera wrote:
 
 Quote:What are you talking about? That's my list of my favorite movies, those that I have watched, so you can't say I "missed" one for that list that I haven't even seen rolling eyes
 
 
 Borsuc wrote:
 
 Quote:Then it's pointless since we don't know your entire list. As an extreme example, imagine someone watching only "Ricky 1" (
  ) and then saying it's the best movie he ever watched. 
 I'm not saying you have a bad list, heck those are one of my favs as well. wink
 
 
 Phoenix wrote:
 
 Quote:Sheesh, The Death you have to argue with Asheera about her own taste in a movie thread? disagree
 
 
 Borsuc wrote:
 
 Quote:if there's anything I hate more than wrong posts targeted at one person, is those that are based on previous assumptions and just taking stuff out of context and accusing with cheap shots or personal business.
 
 
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 hey Ash I bet you missed a lot, how many movies did you actually watch?
  
 
 
 Hey Borsuc if you don't want to be 'flamed' then don't write insulting posts like this. Hardly a cheap shot. Ash herself protested.
 
 
 So it's not my fault you were trying to make fun of her and tell her she hasn't seen any movies.  You take every opportunity you can to find fault. Especially out of place in fun threads like Nation States and Movies.
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|  posted January 27, 2009 10:11 PM |  | Edited by Lexxan at 22:14, 27 Jan 2009. |  
 
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|  posted January 27, 2009 10:13 PM |  |  |  
 
| Nothing personal, I was just passing comment on the sheer stupidity and needlessness of certain quarrels going on here. 
 Coincidentially, that's why I don't post in the OSM
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|  posted January 27, 2009 10:13 PM |  | Edited by Lexxan at 22:19, 27 Jan 2009. |  
 
| Wait a sec, you mean, this ins't the Wastelands? Ooops! 
 EDIT: After giving the thread a Quick read, I think that decreasing the Post Limint on OSm would be undesirable (=NO) . Yes, it would limit Quote Wars, but would it also limit the activity thoroughly? I mean, an unactive board is imo a useless one. And if they cannot post in OSM, how else can TheDeath and Mvass fill in their spare time?
 
 And, Imo, it would solve the QW problem (if it'ss a problem at all): it would move it. I've seen Quote Wars bin the Temple and the Tavern before: Why wouldn't it occur more often there?
 
 Quote Wars on their own aren't a problem. The offtopicness that oftenly follows them is.
 
 At least, that my opion of the matter (if it matters at all)
 
 (And I still have no  Post count limits
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|  posted January 27, 2009 10:24 PM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:Quote Wars on their own aren't a problem. The offtopicness that oftenly follows them is.
 
 At least, that my opion of the matter (if it matters at all)
 
 
 Of course your opinion matters, you are a member of the community.
 
 I agree that offtopicness is a big problem and quality is a problem sometimes.
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|  posted January 27, 2009 10:38 PM |  |  |  
 
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|  posted January 27, 2009 11:01 PM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:It would be the best movie he's ever watched. It'd also be the worst movie.As an extreme example, imagine someone watching only "Ricky 1" (
  ) and then saying it's the best movie he ever watched. 
  
 
 Quote:I gave my suggestion. A limit-per-time ratio is a horrible idea, though. We already have floodprotect - that's enough.no one seems to answer when I ask how to make the OSM more attractive to newcomers.
 
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|  posted January 28, 2009 12:48 AM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:Ok let me restate this very clearly (by the way, I didn't say anything you accused me before of as well but let's ignore that... like "leave that stuff for HC"):So it's not my fault you were trying to make fun of her and tell her she hasn't seen any movies.  You take every opportunity you can to find fault. Especially out of place in fun threads like Nation States and Movies.
 
 
 What is wrong with what I said? Was it off-topic? (it was about movies) It wasn't even personal (it was a reply to a goddamn list which could have been everybody's).
 
 What the hell was wrong in saying that she missed a lot? So if someone says in a game "I haven't played it but this looks good" and someone replies "Man, you don't know what you lose!" THAT is a provocation or getting personal?
 
 
 By the way at least I was on-topic
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|  posted January 28, 2009 01:06 AM |  |  |  
 
| Wow another childish argument. 
 So if I say in this thread "I don't think The Death should be allowed to post in OSM anymore because he attacks other members" that's ok because it's on topic?
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|  posted January 28, 2009 01:31 AM |  |  |  
 
| Way to go mate, I discriminated Asheera somehow with that post or demanded something to her  
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|  posted January 28, 2009 01:55 AM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:Wow another childish argument.
 
 Quote:I like how you're trying to defend Asheera by doing the very thing that keeps her away from the OSM.What's the point of posting in the OSM in a discussion (most likely those 'heated' with huge quote wars) I know I'll get answers like: "You have no point at all", "Your points have no substance", etc.
 
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|  posted January 28, 2009 01:57 AM |  |  |  
 
| I somehow have the feeling for needing to say something since this whole situation is based more or less on me. Somehow I think it's my fault... 
 
 Sheesh guys please stop this. Phoenix I appreciate you trying to 'defend' me but just stop, maybe we (all) can come to an agreement.
  And Death please stop with your arrogance, you could said it much more nicely anyway instead of that sarcastic response.
  
 Also, what was in the past was in the past. Of course, that means it shouldn't happen again, so Death please just stop trying to take every opportunity to find a flaw or fault in someone's post. This doesn't apply only to what you did with my posts, but also for the jokes you 'ruined'. For example take that one where you said the quality of a funny image sucks. Obviously that wasn't the point of the poster at all since the image was supposed to be funny but you just had to find that flaw (quality) and 'attack'. So just please stop with being naughty like that.
  
 Now let's return to the topic of how to make the OSM more enjoyable, hmm? Oh and I vote for a thread-name change to something like "Improving the OSM", I don't know, I think it fits better. IMO of course.
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|  posted January 28, 2009 02:05 AM |  |  |  
 
| TheDeath: bringing whiners out of their caves since the beginning of time.  
 
 Quote:TheDeath/Asheera confirmed.So just please stop with being naughty like that.
 
  
 Now, how should we make the OSM more enjoyable? I suggest locking all the major posters in a basement, and see who survives the longest.
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|  posted January 28, 2009 02:12 AM |  | Edited by Asheera at 02:13, 28 Jan 2009. |  
 
| Quote:What?TheDeath/Asheera confirmed.
  
  
 Oh and LOL @ your suggestion.
  
 How about making it 'not allowed' to post after just one post between your last one, so as to not have any more quote wars between two posters?
 
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|  posted January 28, 2009 02:20 AM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:What?
 
  And now you're returning his affections.
    
 
 Quote:No. Why can't two people argue however they want?How about making it 'not allowed' to post after just one post between your last one, so as to not have any more quote wars between two posters?
 
 
 How about we do nothing? There's absolutely nothing wrong with the OSM.
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|  posted January 28, 2009 02:32 AM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:But but...Also, what was in the past was in the past. Of course, that means it shouldn't happen again, so Death please just stop trying to take every opportunity to find a flaw or fault in someone's post. This doesn't apply only to what you did with my posts, but also for the jokes you 'ruined'. For example take that one where you said the quality of a funny image sucks. Obviously that wasn't the point of the poster at all since the image was supposed to be funny but you just had to find that flaw (quality) and 'attack'. So just please stop with being naughty like that.
  
  
  
 Now I mean really, wouldn't it be boring if I didn't point out flaws that most people ignore? You know most times, I'm just joking around with them
  (maybe william should take them less seriously  a lot less to be exact) 
 As for the argument with Phoenix, to be honest I thought I was done with it (before this thread of course) but he keeps popping it up for some reason
  
 Not saying I am an angel (lol
  ) but I just don't like wrong accusations (even on someone else -- though I do not usually 'defend' others because, frankly, I do not even KNOW if it's a wrong accusation or not, since I usually don't know what others have/think; not that I otherwise wouldn't). 
 I don't think there is anything in the OSM to improve -- I think the attitude needs to change though (and my special derailing mad skillz need to change as well
  ) -- however I'll give it a break to OSM arguments now (am a bit busy  ) but otherwise I think it is fine. Look at the other threads in it, not all of them are about fierce debates   ____________
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|  posted January 28, 2009 02:49 AM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!I'll give it a break to OSM arguments now
 
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|  posted January 28, 2009 10:12 AM |  |  |  
 
| Quote:Because the OSM is NOT only about 2 persons! Why do you think there is a moderator in every tv discussion? Because otherwise those discussions would end like most of the OSM threads here: 2 guys start arguing over and over and no other participant get's the chance to say anything anymore.No. Why can't two people argue however they want?
 
 Try to involve other members too.
 
 If that doesn't work, create a new OSM thread called "Mvass + TheDeath Quote war" and you can write until your fingers get broken.....
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