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Thread: Should I install Linux? This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · «PREV / NEXT»
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posted March 04, 2009 11:19 PM
Edited by dimis at 23:47, 04 Mar 2009.

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Step 2: Windows-like and locate firefox
How do I make it Windows-like?
Look again at my step 1 (i.e. click on it):

Step 1: Change to Nebulae

This will make your environment windows-like (for convenience I place "step 2" link below).

Step 2: Looks like Windows and here is firefox

In any case though, you can start firefox by opening a terminal and simply giving the command:

firefox &

NOTE that there is an ampersand ( & ) in the end of the command. This is not a mistake. It is there so that you can close the terminal whenever you want.

I'll give you a hint for your network in a minute.
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posted March 04, 2009 11:37 PM

Three Questions

For the following you don't need to login on FVWM. xfce is fine as well.



1) Do you have network-admin installed?

You can check that by opening a terminal and issue the command (copy-paste):

which network-admin

Let me know if you get an answer.



2) Give on a terminal:

sudo ifconfig

Post the output here.



3) Post the output of the following command:

cat /etc/network/interfaces


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posted March 04, 2009 11:47 PM

And one more thing ...

However, since you had network access under xfce, the following 5 commands (each separated by a line) I am pretty sure will give you network access under fvwm:

sudo su

ifdown eth0

/etc/init.d/networking stop

/etc/init.d/networking start

ifup eth0



Don't forget to type

exit

in the end to logout from your root account on terminal.

Let us know how it goes and feels.
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posted March 05, 2009 12:44 AM

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Let me know if you get an answer.
No answer.

As for the sudo stuff, for some reason, my login password isn't working as my sudo password.

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3) Post the output of the following command:

cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
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posted March 05, 2009 12:56 AM
Edited by dimis at 01:03, 05 Mar 2009.

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3) Post the output of the following command:

cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
That's very strange if you have network access under xfce.

What is the output of the same command when you issue it under xfce?


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As for the sudo stuff, for some reason, my login password isn't working as my sudo password.
Probably there is a misunderstanding here. You can ALWAYS ask the system how it recognizes you with the command
whoami
If the answer is "root", then you can omit all the "sudo" that you see. So, whenever I write "sudo" in a sense I imply that you are not logged in as root; i.e. the answer to "whoami" is different from root.


Moreover, if you have the required space, install network-admin though synaptic (no matter xfce or fvwm). Do you remember how to do that?


EDIT: Oh, and once you install "network-admin", run it with administrative privileges; i.e.
a) Either as a regular user you give
sudo network-admin
or
b) become root with
sudo su
and run the program:
network-admin
Now, check the settings of your ethernet card and write them down; i.e. your ip, your dns, your gateway, and so on ...
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posted March 05, 2009 01:01 AM

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What is the output of the same command when you issue it under xfce?
That was the output under xfce.

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You can ALWAYS ask the system how it recognizes you with the command
whoami
If the answer is "root", then you can omit all the "sudo" that you see.
The answer is not "root". The answer is my username.
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posted March 05, 2009 01:06 AM
Edited by dimis at 01:06, 05 Mar 2009.

Our posts crossed (I made another one).

Ok, question now:
1) Open a brand new terminal
2) issue whoami and verify that you are not root.
3) issue sudo su and give your password (verify caps-lock and num-lock are as you expect).
4) issue whoami. Does it say now that you are "root"?

If not, you are in trouble ...
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posted March 05, 2009 01:12 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 01:12, 05 Mar 2009.

It doesn't... however, if I do something through the GUI (like open Synaptic Package Manager) and it asks for my password, then my password works.
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posted March 05, 2009 01:21 AM

Have you installed extra languages? What I understand from your sayings doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, let's say that you open synaptic. Install "network-admin" and try to run it with administrative privileges. Can you see a "root-terminal" around? If not, the only way I can think of is opening a terminal and trying
sudo network-admin

Let me know what's going on.
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posted March 05, 2009 02:00 AM

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Have you installed extra languages?
Yes, Russian.

And I downloaded network-admin, but I can't use sudo network-admin, because my sudo password doesn't work. Is there a way to launch it through the GUI?
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posted March 05, 2009 02:03 AM

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Have you installed extra languages?
Yes, Russian.
Then my guess is that you have accidentally switched the language on the terminal and that's why the system does not accept your password when you try "sudo". Check the hotkeys (somehow; you'll figure it I guess since you installed the extra language).

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And I downloaded network-admin, but I can't use sudo network-admin, because my sudo password doesn't work. Is there a way to launch it through the GUI?
Probably the sudo will work with a simple trick. Log out and log back in (hopefully english will be activated by default). As of the gui, search a little bit around. Especially on menus called "system" or "system configuration".

I have to go now. More when I reach home.
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posted March 05, 2009 03:45 AM

I logged out and logged in, and my sudo password still doesn't work...
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posted March 05, 2009 03:50 AM
Edited by dimis at 03:55, 05 Mar 2009.

ok. Can you post the output of (copy - paste):
ls -1 /usr/share/menu/ | grep network

EDIT: Did you create an extra account for someone at some point (and possibly deleting that account by now)?
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posted March 05, 2009 04:17 AM

The output was:
gnome-network-admin

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Did you create an extra account for someone at some point (and possibly deleting that account by now)?
No.
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posted March 05, 2009 04:32 AM

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The output was:
gnome-network-admin
Good.
So, the entry is somewhere there in the GUI interface.
Look again at my picture and as you read the menu on top, there is an entry named "Debian".
You should have the same entry in yours too. Under that menu you will find network-admin (or gnome-network-manager) somewhere as an entry. So, all you need to do is search a little bit on that menu.
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posted March 05, 2009 04:36 AM

I am being an idiot

$ cat gnome-network-admin
?package(gnome-network-admin):needs="X11" section="Applications/System/Administration"\
 hints="Network"\
 title="Network Admin" command="/usr/bin/network-admin"\
 icon="/usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/network.xpm"
$


i.e. it should be located under
Applications --> System --> Administration

If not, issue the command:
cat /usr/share/menu/gnome-network-admin
and read about the location (section)
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posted March 05, 2009 04:54 AM
Edited by dimis at 04:54, 05 Mar 2009.

@others having Ubuntu: Can someone please post the groups where he/she belongs (assuming he/she is able to perform sudo commands)?
If you don't know how, open a terminal and give:

groups username

where username is your username.

Thanks.
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posted March 05, 2009 08:30 PM

@mvassilev: if you hard disk is formatted in FAT or NTFS

you should deinstall your linux as fast as you can

because linux destroyes those hard disks

stay with windows it's simply the best

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posted March 05, 2009 09:26 PM

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@mvassilev: if you hard disk is formatted in FAT or NTFS

you should deinstall your linux as fast as you can

because linux destroyes those hard disks

stay with windows it's simply the best
WTF? It's on a different partition. Plus FAT is no problem. NTFS has some problems when 'writing' and 'compression' but not for reading from the NTFS partition.
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posted March 05, 2009 09:34 PM

By the way mvass, did you make it and found the network-admin tool? Post, so that I know what is going on. Also, if you can use sudo at any point let me know. Moreover, post the groups where you belong to (read below; you can omit the one which is identical to your username).


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Since, it might be overseen, I post here once more:

@others having Ubuntu: Can someone please post the groups where he/she belongs (assuming he/she is able to perform sudo commands)? If you don't know how, open a terminal and give:

groups user

where user is your username.
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