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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Strider Hl-Kispagat Ceasar semifinal in TOH chatroom live
Thread: Strider Hl-Kispagat Ceasar semifinal in TOH chatroom live This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 16, 2009 01:24 PM
Edited by Strider_HL at 14:00, 16 Mar 2009.

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Well, the consclusion is simple. I will not make any comments during the play, except for possible time schedule questions or rule-problems, or lagging things.

But we never chat in game anyway, except those abrupt battle comments. The game runs in utter silence with "s" at end of turn and maybe that's why those single lines are so memorable hehe In this game my favorite your expressions were:
In shipyard garrison:
me: unbelievable-exp light with dungeon
you: get used to it
Death garrison after death blow and bash eliminating last chance to save champs: "nice"
Middle of final battle:
me: did you notice that our morale trigger equally?
you: that is natural for me

They look funny but in heat of battle the emotions are escalated and such remarks certainly are not diplomatic. That's why i always kind of apologize or write smth about being very lucky if the misfortune happens to opponent. But your actions were on the other side of scale...

Anyway, if you look back, i didn't mention my annoyance in the first after-game post. Only when i read about you beating me twice and boasting of your dungeon skill, i couldn't resist to write that poisonous reply. Especially, because in both victories i lost to wonders of probabilities and not you. So, cute comments throughout game, final and forum was too big test for my heated emotions hehe

Ofc, i reported game as "honorable" without a question - no worries there. See you tonight

P.s. Elvin, relax... if you want silence then don't act contradictory. What did you think my reaction would be to "cheap shots" etc?

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 16, 2009 01:30 PM

See? You are doing it again and my patience is wearing thin. And if such things scarred your soul on such a grand scale you should seriously see what happens with valky
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 16, 2009 02:06 PM

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Just drop it On the other hand I have noticed your demeaning comments towards so many others with your subtlety concealing cheap shots.

Ok, ok, let's drop this.


I think Strider's referring to the soap here ...

Drop the soap and he'll charge in on his wyvern right into the "heat of things"
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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 16, 2009 02:39 PM

What amazes me most in this game, is the "full creeping orientation" of the heroes. Final battle wise, those two heroes are sooooo "weak", that it makes me wonder if the skill sacrifices, were worth the extra creeping speed gained.
Also Kispagat's troop numbers are quite impressive, would be interesting to see the battle with necro garrison victims included , I suspect it would be a close one...
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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 16, 2009 03:16 PM

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What amazes me most in this game, is the "full creeping orientation" of the heroes. Final battle wise, those two heroes are sooooo "weak", that it makes me wonder if the skill sacrifices, were worth the extra creeping speed gained.
Also Kispagat's troop numbers are quite impressive, would be interesting to see the battle with necro garrison victims included , I suspect it would be a close one...


If u have a look at the map, you will understand that skill setups. I chose light and wm together to avoid next suicide, but I think it was quite reasonable.

I think Strider decided to take wm after some losses at the beginning, and I must tell you it was a big relief for me. I was afraid that he will choose defence instead, I think that would end my ceasar carrier.

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 17, 2009 09:20 AM

Yesterday nite we started our 4th game. We both took shipyard garrison, and as usual I suffered a bit more losses than Strider. This surely will be an interesting game, since the main heroes are: Helmar on his side, and Ylthin at my service.

Lets see what these godlike heroes may achieve here.  

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted March 17, 2009 09:37 AM

This is indeed going to be interesting.
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 17, 2009 09:57 AM

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This is indeed going to be interesting.

Interesting setup, for sure. On the first day i was offered Brand in tavern and decided to wait the next day. I noticed Ythlin in stables of opponent's camp and hoped that sunrise would grant me a decent protagonist to match the light maiden. And so it did with fierce Helmar

Seems that we are destined with absolute juxtaposition in this game as Kis has cursed ring negating my golden horseshoe. Garrison battles were interesting too. First, Kis effortlessly saved ponnies as no morale blessed my killer stacks and i had to switch my targets. I followed with battle in my own shipyard garrison and had lucky critical strikes compensating with abundance the lack of morale.

So far we both advance without serious obstacles but i suspect that Kis schedule advantage of a day will increase over time due to unavoidable difference in logistics. Will see what i can offer to counter this...

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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted March 17, 2009 10:26 AM

nice - i look forward to the replays, especially the Ylthin Shipyard garrison since i have managed to mess up there TWICE against Zilo with Ylthin. Nice setup aswell, will be most interesting if you can avoid suicides

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted March 17, 2009 07:42 PM

Some new replays.
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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 17, 2009 09:54 PM

I hope this game will have a final battle, as I am curios about the ups&downs of dwarfs in real tote games, as in arena they are a top gun despite the fact that they have the smallest army per real growth.

I suppose in real games, Sylvan should be a little faster around the map, but it will be interesting to see if that will be enough to win the game
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted March 17, 2009 10:15 PM

Yes but in real map sylvan can get the favoured of its choice. Thanes and priests are set on the map, not sure about magmas.
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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted March 21, 2009 12:10 AM

Some more action from battlefields

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted March 21, 2009 06:04 PM

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I hope this game will have a final battle, as I am curios about the ups&downs of dwarfs in real tote games, as in arena they are a top gun despite the fact that they have the smallest army per real growth.

I suppose in real games, Sylvan should be a little faster around the map, but it will be interesting to see if that will be enough to win the game



Indeed... on a real map.. Fortress is extremely hard to creep with first couple weeks.. Fortress isnt that great offensivly unless you can get the game to go into week 7... Before that Sylvan and most other towns STOMP them easily.
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Zilonite
Zilonite


Famous Hero
posted March 22, 2009 09:11 PM

Kisp was very fast this time and with rushy rush`s last movement points caught Strider out of guard:
Ythlin-Helmar - first date

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 22, 2009 09:25 PM

Painful.. Strider didn't even get the chance to use his ballista.
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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted March 23, 2009 09:39 PM
Edited by Kispagat at 21:42, 23 Mar 2009.

This was a surprise attack, but also I was surprised that it happen. To catch Helmar without his army it was very important that sim turn ended giving me, player 1, option to move my  rest movement points. If sim turn ends with an extra day movement for blue player, the whole story could be different.

Now the situation is great for me, 15 thanes are great loss. But  the battle is not over.

Also, after Helmar's surrender I attacked Havez, a secondary hero. He surrendered also. We will see if Helmar is available in the tavern. I hope not

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 25, 2009 10:22 PM
Edited by Strider_HL at 22:24, 25 Mar 2009.

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This was a surprise attack, but also I was surprised that it happen. To catch Helmar without his army it was very important that sim turn ended giving me, player 1, option to move my  rest movement points. If sim turn ends with an extra day movement for blue player, the whole story could be different.

Now the situation is great for me, 15 thanes are great loss. But  the battle is not over.

Also, after Helmar's surrender I attacked Havez, a secondary hero. He surrendered also. We will see if Helmar is available in the tavern. I hope not

Yeah, games with Kis are amazing experience. Funny, couple of seconds on either direction and i would have been back to portal or long distance from his hero. It is especially painful because i had lost only 20+ defenders and 4 skirmishers in all game and crept flawless. I was on my way to balrogs to even levels with Kis. Sims broke couple of tiles from my home portal hehe

Now, chances are completely opposite... Seems that Kis is my nemesis - i can do as good as i may but some strange accident decides to win the game instead of opponent

Fred, is this "unjust luck accusation" or you can see the funny irony?

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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 26, 2009 08:58 AM

Strider, quit your whining, and concentrate on playing better next time. Blaming it on luck will only help you lose the next game also, actually if I were you, I would take into consideration the possibility that Kispagat actually was counting on such an event to happen, and was planning this surprise attack .
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted March 26, 2009 10:29 AM

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Strider, quit your whining, and concentrate on playing better next time. Blaming it on luck will only help you lose the next game also, actually if I were you, I would take into consideration the possibility that Kispagat actually was counting on such an event to happen, and was planning this surprise attack .

Turn time with my and his fights were around hour... Did he count it to the last second? hehe My hero was running and the sims broke when i was passing by Stormlord block... As we play with max speed settings, 1 second later i would be gone or 2 seconds before that i wouldn't have started moving

His surprise attack was in general to enter my territory, not to have sims broken when we stand several tiles away and his movement has almost ended, right?

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