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Difm
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posted March 22, 2009 04:16 PM |
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Defeat 4K Angels?
This is more like a test i wanted to see if it was possible to defeat. I Use the Original Heroes 3.
they are stacked in 7 stacks.
MY hero Solomyr 24, 24, 24, 24. Secondary spells = exp Air, Exp Earth, Exp Wisdom.
Useful Items: Golden Bow, Badge of Morale x2, still eye of the dragon, clover of fortune x2. Neclace of swiftness, cape of veolcity
Spells: Clone, Haste,Chain lightning, Implosion, Slow, blind, teleport, ressurect, Forcefield.
Well actually i have about every spell there is so if you know a spell that is useful for this name it.
Army: 800 Cyclops Kings, 400 Grand Elves, 24 Arch angels, 72 Gold dragons, 85 Titans, 120 Nagas, 100 War Unicorns.
IF you have any iDea how to defeat 4 K angels with these things or with any other type i would like to know.
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted March 22, 2009 04:22 PM |
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Cyclops behind forcefield, blind a few times, shoot them down one by one and in the end just resurrect AAs and start cloning them and resurrect the rest.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted March 22, 2009 05:19 PM |
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Forcefield's definitely your only chance here. Haste first, form a wall around the Cyclopses to protect them and then next turn cast Forcefield.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 22, 2009 08:05 PM |
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You need:
1 archangel
1 Cyclop minimum 
Ammo card
Mass slow on first round
Force field on second round
Haste third round
Patience and pray for no morale on first round
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Binabik
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted March 22, 2009 09:11 PM |
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I don't think it can be done.
Ammo cart does nothing because the angels are 1 hex creatures so you can't protect both the cart and cyclops.
But even with an ammo cart you will not have enough spell points to cast forcefield enough times.
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Difm
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 22, 2009 11:30 PM |
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oke thanks it worked. allthough i didnt have maximum spell points so it ended with me loosing all my army except cycs. yea indeed it is impossible with only 1 cyc i think it drained me a hell of alot with 900 cycs xD.
had to little SP to cast clone on my ressurected angels.
but I did it anyway . Thanks
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted March 23, 2009 09:20 AM |
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You would have ended the fight without any losses if you would have left out all troops but 1 Archangel and all Cyclop kings.
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Difm
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 23, 2009 09:47 AM |
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Yea i realised that  . But fun to test anyway. I just felt tempted to beat them when i saw 4 k angels .
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted March 23, 2009 10:30 AM |
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Edited by liophy at 10:32, 23 Mar 2009.
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Since you cant protect the ammo cart with force field, you will need to boost your shooting power with spells like precision and bless.
Otherwise you will run out of shots.
A Cyclop King has 17 attack. Angel has 20 deffence.
So Solmyr 24 attack and no influential secondary skill would mean about twice base dammage for the Cyclop King (42-20= 22 attack bonus)
This would mean 110%*(16-20)=38 dmg.
So, 800 Kings deals about 30600 dmg = 153 angels.
You need 26,2 shoots to kill all the angels. And you dont want to engage in melee penalti against 350 angels.
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted March 23, 2009 11:20 AM |
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Edited by pacifist at 11:29, 23 Mar 2009.
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Hehe, as pointed above less troops = easier fight . You can also take the cyclops, grand elves and 1 archangel. Cast mass slow, force field, mass haste, force fields nothing more and in the last round resurrect the archangel. Less mana spent this way. Put the other troops on another hero, a mine or a garrison near.
edit : you don't have exp water? so you can't clone cyclops and archangels. Clone cyclops would have been easier
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Difm
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 23, 2009 02:34 PM |
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I Increased the Power Of my Cycs by Spells. I also had 29 atk I forgot the complete stats so i typed 24 at all.
Besides a side question Does the Orb of Filt increase the slow? if so what would the reduce be of expert Slow with orb of filth?.
My Implosion deals 4.7 K  . Little of use here but nice anyway =)
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted March 23, 2009 03:10 PM |
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29 attack should be just about enough, but to be sure you may use one bless, after the first 2 rounds for slow/force field
Orb of SILT (not Filt ) Do not increase the efect of slow. It increase only the damage spells.
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted March 23, 2009 04:09 PM |
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Not to forget the resurrection ability of the archangels, considering they don't have anything else to do they will probably resurrect the first dead ones for each stack (so if only cyclops are present it's 7* 150 more archangels to kill). Still very easy, only challenge is to beat them with minimum mana .
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted March 23, 2009 04:29 PM |
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Quote:
Not to forget the resurrection ability of the archangels...
I got the impresion he is fighting ANGELS, not ARCH-Angels
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted March 23, 2009 04:33 PM |
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Edited by pacifist at 16:42, 23 Mar 2009.
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Oups you are right . It made me think of the 4000 archangels to beat on "Unleashing the bloodthirsty" map so I mixed things .
So haste spell is not necessary anymore .
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