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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 03:42 AM |
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Edited by artu at 08:42, 07 Feb 2014.
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I don't have the technical knowledge of the forum to picture how exactly things can be regrouped. If a forum titled Wog 3.5 can be one of the 3-4 sub-forums under the general H3 modding forum (what Sal calls child forums) the Google issue will be solved, the old name will pop up the specific Wog forum and the general forum will be correctly (I don't care about the political part, Sal) titled.
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nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 12:52 PM |
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Edited by nik312 at 12:54, 07 Feb 2014.
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Salamandre said:
There are two problems: one is google search. People who search WoG forums will find nothing now (tested, only Vlaad's thread is still on the list, google finds in memory the old name). Second is that there is a forge town in the making and the new forum's name leads in confusion.
Agree on both problems. I think that even if there is some major limitation on creating separate boards, then at least separate masterposts are needed. But those masterposts will be the only beacon in chaos of non-connected topics.
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Both HoTA and VCMI have their main forums elsewhere. In HC their thread is only about advertising, there is no actual technical work.
Wrong. Can't say for VCMI, but HotA has its one and only official eng-speaking community here. So, all the connection with community goes through HC topics.
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Just reminding that the few requests (I suppose HoTA fans) were for creating a new subforum, not changing the old name, thus now no one has what he asked for.
Correct, but Valeriy said that subforums are not possible and therefore introduced current solution. Separate board would be still better anyway, but maybe some reasonable solution could be made with current possibilities.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted February 07, 2014 01:23 PM |
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picture how exactly things can be regrouped. If a forum titled Wog 3.5 can be one of the 3-4 sub-forums under the general H3 modding forum (what Sal calls child forums)
Yes, I believe it's needed. Browsing threads for WoG, ERA, HoTA and VCMI can be tiring, and there is another issue: new players don't know the difference between these.
If aforum is split into subforums, immediatelly it wil bee clear at galance what are possible game extensions and how they are related.
On the other hand, right now there is little need for VCMi subforum, as I try to keep all the info in main thread and the other discussions are mostly about comparing one platform to the other.
There were, however, few threads with mods released which got lost in a flood of threads.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted February 07, 2014 02:10 PM |
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I also believe there should be at least an additional subforum/forum section for HotA. Not only because the HotA team stated they want to use HC as their english forum, but also because the mod is getting very popular and already we see a bunch of threads starting with [HotA] on the title. Can you guys imagine that in one year? Pure chaos.
And on top of that, all big MODs merged in one forum is confusing.
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gatecrasher
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 02:42 PM |
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Corribus said:
Everyone:
I will put some work into updating stickies and things. This would be a good time, for those of you active in H3 Mods, to suggest important additions or contents of stickied threads.
I suggest sticking the HD mod thread to the Library, to this section or to whatever will emerge as appropriate place.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 03:26 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 15:28, 07 Feb 2014.
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I also agree, that HOTA and VCMI must get official threads.
It's boring to check updates and search interesting threads between HOTA bugs/HOTA pixel artefacts/HOTA promotions.
DF2 is russian-speaking forum, there almost no other-speaking people.
And VCMI forum is mostly for technical issues and to discuss development.
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted February 07, 2014 07:04 PM |
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. Keep it coming. I will take it all into consideration.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 07, 2014 07:32 PM |
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Best solution IMHO: create sub forums for HoTA and VCMI (although personally I wonder why HoTA will need more than one thread-report bugs, or maybe the HC users didn't yet understand that what they are called for is reporting bugs, they will get it with time perhaps.)
If this solution can't be implemented, I don't see why anything has to change. As it is now, it makes not much sense: 3.5 arcane forge.
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Hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 10:10 PM |
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Edited by Hippox89 at 22:22, 07 Feb 2014.
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Salamandre said:
(although personally I wonder why HoTA will need more than one thread-report bugs, or maybe the HC users didn't yet understand that what they are called for is reporting bugs, they will get it with time perhaps.)
Umm, who are you exactly to state this as a matter-of-fact? Where did the HotA crew state that they only want a single, HotA related thread and that this single thread must be solely dedicated to bug reporting and nothing else? If the answer to this is 'nowhere', then I don't really understand you. Besides, it's up to community if they want to make HotA related threads.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 07, 2014 10:23 PM |
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HC does not have the tools for creating sub-forums, it even does not allow editing older than one year threads, so sometimes is a pain indeed. Because of that we had to manage our works with parsimony, I mean one thread for every mod, to avoid a mess. If you look at Forum structure, what you see? One thread for Era, one thread for x mod, one for y mod. And it worked quite well because long time users know when to spam and when not.
For this reason I don't see why HoTA suddenly needs several threads. As a matter of fact, a few new users decided to show their HoTA allegiance and created several gibberish threads. Such gibberish threads would be maybe useful in a df2 structure, where each mod has its own sub-forum, but in HC this is an untested feature and I see that consequences already divide the users around.
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Hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 10:37 PM |
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Edited by Hippox89 at 22:47, 07 Feb 2014.
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You're wrong. These changes to this sub-forum has something to do with 'spamming', rather such changes are simply a logical conclusion to having more new users incoming (because of the HotA English release) + a complete new line of discussion (again because of HotA). What you think of 'spam' is also rather questionable.
Edit: Anyhow, it's quite clear to me how elitist you are of ERA/WoG and how this clouds your mind. There should be room for other, big HMM3 projects on HC. Better a crowed space, than excluding competition (of forum space).
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted February 07, 2014 10:55 PM |
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Following that philosophy, Sal, when Heroes VII comes out it would need only one thread to discuss everything and not a whole forum section, right?...
HotA needed several threads because having everything on the main thread was a mess. It was nearly impossible to follow bugs reports when they were mixed with pixel reports, discussions about future versions of the mod, strategy stuff and so on.
(And I don't know exactly why, but I always see Salamandre grumpy every time HotA is mentioned  )
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 07, 2014 11:07 PM |
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Guys, I don't care how many gibberish threads you make about HoTA, what I care is the forum availability on google search. Changing name is lethal, so I was worried about such decision without considering all aspects. Considering that I've invested some thousands hours in this forum and its content, unlike you two, I am entitled to start a discussion on that matter, can I please?
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Hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 11:14 PM |
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Edited by Hippox89 at 23:15, 07 Feb 2014.
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You mix real concerns with immature bashing of other people, Sal. I've seen how much work you have put into this sub-forum, so I do actually understand your concerns, however, it shouldn't make you so entitled that you should feel the need bash other people while expressing your real concerns.
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted February 07, 2014 11:32 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Considering that I've invested some thousands hours in this forum and its content, unlike you two
So what?
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted February 08, 2014 06:43 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 08:18, 08 Feb 2014.
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Ground rules:
(1) Creating sub-forums does not appear to be an option. I will inquire with Valeriy again, but I think without some additional programming on his part, it's not possible.
(2) Having separate forums for every mod in existence isn't going to happen.
A good compromise is to have a H3 mod forum that is open for all mods but will retain Google search functionality for H3 WoG. I am open to suggests about how to accomplish this. If it is just a matter of naming, I am sure Valeriy will change it to what we want, within reason. And I am easily able to change the title of sticky threads. So for the moment let's work within those boundaries.
And of course, let's keep it constructive and civilized.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted February 08, 2014 06:56 AM |
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Are we limited in number of sub-forums or will there be none at all? If we can have even one sub-forum, it would be Wog sub-forum under Heroes 3 Modding (main forum, not necessarily named like this but something containing simple and search friendly description). When only Wog is the sub forum with a title, it gets the old name and pops up in Google search, everyone is happy.
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted February 08, 2014 08:19 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 08:19, 08 Feb 2014.
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Hmmm, I think I might have addressed this before. Let me go back through my extensive history of posting to find out.
(time passes)
Ah yes, I seem to have written quite some time ago
Corribus said:
(1) Creating sub-forums does not appear to be an option.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 08, 2014 10:37 AM |
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Heroes 3.5 - WAKE of GODS
Fan-Built Mods & unofficial Expansion Packs
VCMI, HoTA.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted February 08, 2014 11:21 AM |
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How about
Heroes 3.5 - Wake of Gods and Beyond
Fan-Built Mods & unofficial Expansion Packs
VCMI, HoTA.
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