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Thread: DarkCrystal's H6
DarkCrystal
DarkCrystal


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posted April 02, 2009 08:33 PM

DarkCrystal's H6

That's approximately what I would created if I was a creator of Heroes 6.

Don't expect much information for now, the updates are matter of time.


So, I'll start with the most interesting moment, factions.

Game has 6 races: Humans, Demons, Undead, Elves, Dwarves, Lizardmen and teo faction-races: Stronhold and Academy.

Each race, except faction-races, has few factions.

HUMANS

1)Haven
Alignment: good
Associated colors: White, Blue, Teal.
Worship: Elrath
Associated with: Holy knights, Light, Honor.
Haven is almost same as in H5. But it became more holy and martial during it's hard history.

Units conception:
(The upgrades will come with updates)
1)Infantry (Weak spear infantry)
2)Archer
3)Swordsman
4)Griffin
5)Priest
6)Cavalry
7)Angel
8)Light Dragon

2)Knights Kingdoom
Alignemnt: neutral
Assiciated colors: Blue, Grey, Purple.
Worship: Sylath
Associated with: Knights, Glory, Medieval style.
The Knights Kingdoom is a kingdoom of united free cities of East.

Units conception:
1)Peasant (Yeah, yeah )
2)Axethrower
3)Spearman
4)Crusader
5)Monk
6)Battle cavalry
7)Silver Dragon
8)Storm Eagle

3)The Dark Order
Alignemnt: evil
Assiciated colors: Dark Blue, Black.
Worship: Asha
Associated with: Dark Knights, Mercylessness, Darkness.
The Dark Order are knights, who turned out from Elrath and started to worship Spider Asha. The often contacts with Necromancers made their Order as Dark Order.

Units conception:
1)War Dog
2)Black Arhcher
3)Slayer (A kind of Dark Swordsman)
4)Chimera
5)Black Priest
6)Black Knight
7)Dark Angel
8)Darkness Dragon

As you can see the units conception is similar for the humans factions.

DEMONS

1)Inferno
(Classic demons)
Alignment: evil
Associated colors: Red, Orange
Worship: Urghash
Associated with: Demons, Chaos, Fire.
The sons of Urghash are almost same as in H5.

Units conception:
(Almost same)
1)Imp
2)Horned Demon
3)Hell Hound
4)Succubus
5)Hell Charger
6)Pit Fiend
7)Devil
8)Chaos Dragon

2)The Abyss
(Shadow Demons)
Alignment: evil
Associated colors: Black, Purple, Dark Blue
Worship: nothing
Associated with: Strange Creatures, Insidiousness, Shadow.
This creatures are former Demons, corrupted by the strange alien Shadows.

Units conception:
1)Shadow Spawn
2)Creep Demon
3)Swarm
4)Mist Succubus
5)Shadow Spider
6)Abyss Horror
7)Dark Lord
8)Shadow Dragon

Too bad I haven't time now to describe the creatures of this faction.

UNDEAD

1)Necropolis
(Classis undead)
Alignment: evil
Associated colors: Black, Green, Teal.
Worship: Asha
Associated with: Undead, Necromancy, Darkness.
The Necropolis is almost same as in H5.

Units conception:
1)Skeleton
2)Walking Dead
3)Ghost
4)Vampire
5)Lich
6)Wight
7)Bone Dragon
8)Avatar of Asha (Big spiderwoman)

2)Torturepolis
(Demonic Undead)
Alignment: evil
Associated colors: Red, Orange, Brown
Worship: Urghash
Associated with: Demonic undead, Slaughtery, Chaos.
This kind of undead was created by Demons for the war issues. Then they suddenly lost control on them and they became an individual faction.

Units conception:
1)Blood Skeleton (Like a Necropolis skeleton, but with bloody bones)
2)Cadaver ("Fresh" zombie)
3)Hell ghost
4)Ghoul (Modified vampire)
5)Voodooist
6)Flesh golem (Something like a butcher from WC3, but not so fat and more bloody)
7)Blood Dragon
8)Lava Giant

ELVES

1)Heaven Elves
Alignment: good
Associated colors: White, Yellow
Worship: Elrath
Associated with: Heaven elves, Light, Soul cleanliness
This elves are elves, who worship Elrath and gives them a power of light.

Units conception:
1)Wisp
2)Heaven Archer
3)High Elf Warrior
4)White zealot
5)Pegasus rider
6)Archon
7)Phoenix
8)Heaven Dragon

2)Sylvan
Alignment: good
Associated colors: Green
Worship: Sylvanna
Associated with: Forests, Swiftness, Earth.
Almost same as Sylvan in H5.

Units conception:
1)Nymph
2)War Dancer
3)Elf Hunter
4)Druid
5)Unicorn
6)Treant
7)Green Dragon
8)Stone Thing

3)Dungen
Alignment: evil
Associated colors: Purple
Worship: Malassa
Associated with: Dungeons, Shadow, Warlock knollege.
Almost same as Dungeon in H5.

Units conception:
1)Scout
2)Blood Maiden
3)Minotaur
4)Lizard Rider
5)Hydra
6)Shadow witch
7)Twillight Dragon
8)Faceless


Too bad, I don't have much time now, so I didn't mentioned all factions. But I'm going to make approximately this:

Lizardmen:
1)Atlantide (Lizard-fish-men)
2)Swamp clans (Classic Lizardmen)

Dwarves:
1)North lords (Mountain dwarves)
2)Stone halls (Dungeon dwarves)

Academy and Stronghold are almost same as in H5.

So, wait for updates, they will be when I get a bit of free time. And of course your suggestions are welcome.
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Adrius
Adrius


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posted April 02, 2009 08:59 PM

OH NOES! THEY HAZ A STONE-THINGY! RUUUUUN!

Seriously, that thing sounds scary

With this many factions, you'll have a hard time coming up with abilities and racial skills that goes well with all the creatures... I'd prefer a lower number of very detailed factions.

But if you can make them all individual and interesting, this can be awesome.

The Torturepolis sounds especially interesting, brings my mind to Warhammer's fleshy demons.
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted April 02, 2009 09:01 PM

A good start...except the name "Torturepolis" sounds a bit goofy (hope the word fits it...). Something else would be better, imo

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Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted April 02, 2009 09:12 PM
Edited by Mamgaeater at 21:36, 02 Apr 2009.

Tartarus? i think is similar to tortureopolis

Ofc it is pretty much the greek version of hell and may not fit but then again. imps are synonymous with fairies in some cultures
Tartalis?

I think too many polisis make for lesser names... i personally avoid using generic names like X chieftain. but its up to you entirely.

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DarkCrystal
DarkCrystal


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posted April 02, 2009 09:34 PM

Quote:
OH NOES! THEY HAZ A STONE-THINGY! RUUUUUN!
Well, in Russian it sounds absolutely normal, but in English I have not such word, only "Thing". Maybe somebody can suggest something better? It looks like huge stone creature, but has not human but more "treantlike" form.

Quote:
except the name "Torturepolis" sounds a bit goofy
I didn't manage to imagine something better.

Quote:
Tartarus?

Brilliant!

Quote:
With this many factions, you'll have a hard time coming up with abilities and racial skills that goes well with all the creatures... I'd prefer a lower number of very detailed factions.

But if you can make them all individual and interesting, this can be awesome.
I'll try.
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Adrius
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posted April 02, 2009 10:56 PM
Edited by Adrius at 22:57, 02 Apr 2009.

Quote:
OH NOES! THEY HAZ A STONE-THINGY! RUUUUUN!
Well, in Russian it sounds absolutely normal, but in English I have not such word, only "Thing". Maybe somebody can suggest something better? It looks like huge stone creature, but has not human but more "treantlike" form.


Hmm... Earth Golem? But that sounds kinda planty.

Stone Avatar/Spirit/Guardian?
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blizzardboy
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posted April 03, 2009 01:41 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 01:49, 03 Apr 2009.

It's hard without a picture to know what you're thinking about for the Stone-Thing, but maybe:

Juggernaut (literally: lord of the world)
Behemoth
Titanic
Colossus
Gargantuan
Reaver (literally: one who smashes)
Incarnation
Megalith (literally: big stone)
Pukao.

I also agree that "Torturepolis" is kind of weird. I'd go with Tartarus, Gehenna, Pandemonium, or even something more simple like Slaughterhouse, Outlands, or Horror.

edit: oh yea, and having no Efreets makes me cry , you should squeeze them into Inferno



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MattII
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posted April 03, 2009 02:35 AM

Stone Giant maybe. I'm not sure about the Archon (the name seems a bit odd to me), perhaps it could be replaced with the Unicorn, and the Unicorn replaced with Dainn (one of the stags from Yggdrasill in Norse Mythology). If you need an upgrade, I chose the Qilin/Kirin (a sort of deer-like dragon) and the Peryton (a voracious deer-bird, though in this case I went for a far more appetite-as-appearance approach). I'm also not sure about having eight tiers, both for having to come up with yet another creature to fit in an (in some cases) already overly-contrived lineup, and for further invalidating lower tier creatures (how many tier 1s will it take to beat a level 8, as opposed to a tier 7?).

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DarkCrystal
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posted April 03, 2009 02:46 PM

@Blizz: From what you named I like Megalith most.

Quote:
I also agree that "Torturepolis" is kind of weird. I'd go with Tartarus, Gehenna, Pandemonium, or even something more simple like Slaughterhouse, Outlands, or Horror.

I'll go with Tartarus.

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oh yea, and having no Efreets makes me cry , you should squeeze them into Inferno
Don't cry so early. I'm currently thinking about the units conception. So maybe I'll try to "merge" some towns and maybe I'll make alternate creatures for some tiers, so hope...

Quote:
I'm not sure about the Archon (the name seems a bit odd to me), perhaps it could be replaced with the Unicorn, and the Unicorn replaced with Dainn (one of the stags from Yggdrasill in Norse Mythology).
Unicorn already is in Sylvan. Archon is a 3 meters tall high elf, in golden armor with big sword. I think this is good enough, but maybe I'll make something different if I find something better.

Quote:
I'm also not sure about having eight tiers
Well, I'm not sure too. I'm currently thinking to get rid of them.

Good News: Tomorrow I'll have a plenty of free time, so there will be updates.
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flackmandan
flackmandan


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posted April 07, 2009 06:02 PM

Cool dude keep it goin,likes the ideas.
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Lexxan
Lexxan


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Unimpressed by your logic
posted April 07, 2009 06:05 PM

About the efreet, you can make them Fire Elementals or something similar. That's how I would do it, make them Fire Elementals (or rather: an upgrade to the Fire Elemental)
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DarkCrystal
DarkCrystal


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posted April 07, 2009 06:15 PM

Sorry guys, but this is not gonna be finished. I'm too busy.
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted April 07, 2009 07:44 PM

You have endless time...finish it next year or whenever you want

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danijel1990
danijel1990


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posted April 07, 2009 09:37 PM

looking preety good

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DarkCrystal
DarkCrystal


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Staright out of line
posted April 08, 2009 02:33 PM

Quote:
You have endless time...finish it next year or whenever you want
Well, I don't know I get time, I'll continue.
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