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Kareeah_Indaga
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posted September 12, 2013 01:39 AM

On the Megas...+1 what Doomforge said, the power creep is getting on my nerves. If the best Gamefreak can do for Gen VI is boost the power level of everything, I have to say I'm not impressed. I'm gradually coming to the conclusion that NONE of the Mega Evolutions are going to thrill and excite me design-wise, they're all just going to be varying levels of 'meh.' Unless the game forces me or there's another really good reason not to, I think I'm going to skip on using the Mega Evolutions.

The design for Mega Mewtwo X I find to be slightly better than Y in that I dislike it less. (My biggest complaint being that they seem to have made it 'super powered Gallade' and if the other one is Special Attack focused, this one will likely be Attack focused, and I like Special Attackers. )

Froakie's evo looks rather cool, Chespin's looks just like Chespin except now it's a balloon, Fennikin's has turned me off the idea of training one a little. I might dump my starter altogether this Gen; I'm getting attached to the idea of an all-Psychic-type team.

I'm also somewhat annoyed that Metagross isn't going to take normal damage from Ghost and Dark types now, but I suppose that's a minor thing to be annoyed about.

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posted September 12, 2013 08:35 AM

Megarchomp is the most redundant thing ever. It's OP enough as it is.

i actually really like most pokémon that are leaked? I love the psychic cats, the fossils, the poodle and the starter evolutions. (Froakie's is so graceful, Fennekin's looks like a witch (omfg Fire/Psychic final evo plz) and Chespin's morph into a ludicolo-esque pinecone is hilarious )

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posted September 12, 2013 11:15 AM
Edited by War-overlord at 11:16, 12 Sep 2013.

And IGN "accidentally" leaks a new mon called Pyroar.
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I'm calling Litleo evolution.
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posted September 12, 2013 12:58 PM

War-overlord said:
And IGN "accidentally" leaks a new mon called Pyroar.
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I'm calling Litleo evolution.


You and anyone who looks at it for more than an eyeblink, War.

That said...okay, that's cool looking. Do you think we'll get gender differences similar to real-life lions?
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posted September 12, 2013 03:45 PM

i noted it on another board and i'll note it here again: that bloody mane reminds me of some weirdass beach umbrella.

anyway, i started a new game in FireRed and persue my goal of becoming the first Normal Type Champion:



The rules i set myself basically are:

- Every roaming team member of my party must either be SOME degree of Normal type, an evolved form of a normal type you've caught (such as Altaria, Marills that evolved from an Azurill you caught and the Eeveelutions)
- Starter pokémon are allowed to be in your party and fight, but the may NOT be a part of your League team (i boxed in my bulbasaur as soon as i beat misty - i couldn't afford to earlier)
- Any non-Normal pokémon in my party that isn't my starter is not allowed to fight (this to allow HM slaves that aren't of a Normal type or pokémon you have to evolve to trade them)
- My Pokémon League team must be entirely composed of Normal or partially Normal types.

this team is far from final, but i haven't reached the safari zone yet, so go figure. Tauros MUST be on my team since it's the only normal type that can learn Surf. I will also get a Lickitung and a Snorlax in the future. So far, Persian and Clefairy are the only pokémon that are guaranteed a slot in my League Team.

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posted September 13, 2013 12:42 AM

Fun! Have you run into any other challenges (other than Fighting and Ghost types) on your run through so far?

I've been tentatively plotting what I'll build my X/Y team out of if I can get my hands on the right Pokemon. Surf looks like it might be a problem for me too unless Malamar can learn it; the only non-Legendary Psychic types that get it are Slowpoke (+evos) and Starmie. Sadly with them nerfing Steel it looks like I'm not going to be able to use Metagross to cover some of my Ghost and Dark weaknesses and will have to depend on Malamar (x4 Bug weakness ) in that respect.

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posted September 13, 2013 01:13 AM
Edited by Lexxan at 01:22, 13 Sep 2013.

i couldn't beat brock or misty without the help of my starter, but now things are going much better. Surge and Erika were really easy.

I visited the safari zone and caught a Chansey and a Tauros, and i'm now experimenting with them. I may use a Doduo again for Tri-Attack (<33333333) instead of pigeotto and fearow. Not strong enough to beat Koga or Sabrina yet, so i might just tackle Silph HQ before doing either of them.

eta: why the hell would you use a dark/psychic dual type against anything that can learn a bug attack O__O do you want it to get knocked out? just stick to attacking poison, psychic and ghost targets, and you're fine. With Fairy being weak to Poison and allegedly being the second gym, there will def be a couple of tough poison types in this gen.

I don't think Steel is that nerfed rly. its resistances to Dark and Ghost didn't make sense to me (i actually wasn't aware of them untill they were mentionned to have been removed - oh well), and it still resists the most common types, so. PLUS, it got a damage boost by being supereffective against Fairy.

Dragon being thrown under the bus by this generation is hilarious, i hope it means it gets a mid-game gym or something similar.

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posted September 13, 2013 01:46 AM

Lexxan said:
eta: why the hell would you use a dark/psychic dual type against anything that can learn a bug attack O__O


I wouldn't--on purpose. But there are a lot of Pokemon that learn off-type moves, and there are going to be a lot of unfamiliar Pokemon and (probably) a lot of familiar Pokemon with unfamiliar moves, so it's bound to happen sooner or later. That's why I'm griping.


Lexxan said:
I don't think Steel is that nerfed rly.


It is when you're specializing in Psychics and want something that isn't weak to Dark and Ghost! Metagross (or Bronzong) would have been nice there and wouldn't have had the aforementioned double-weakness! There are a couple combinations with the Psychic type that will cover Ghost OR Dark, but without Steel the only thing that covers both at the same time is Dark--which has the Bug weakness too. So Malamar with a Tanga Berry and nothing else.
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posted September 13, 2013 11:31 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 11:34, 13 Sep 2013.

The mega evolutions will probably be classified as Ubers (thus banned for every serious player), or so gimmicky and overdone that they will simply be largely ignored (since they take a turn to happen, during which the opponent will most likely switch a Wall type of pokemon to stall you and ruin your day).

I guess that evolutions changing the type/stats (for example from purely offensive to defensive and vice versa) will be categorized as "Uber" because they will essentially provide too much of an unpredictable coverage.

Another thing is that they mostly look grotesque.

it's a shame metagross gets useless,by the way. The amount of Dark and Ghost filler-moves usually thrown in makes sure it will be 100% garbage, which is a shame - it's my long time favorite. Oh well, that's one generation I won't give a damn about.
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posted September 13, 2013 12:15 PM
Edited by Lexxan at 12:47, 13 Sep 2013.

kareeah: fennekin. it learns psycho cut and another Psychic attack i'm forgetting when it evolves. Fire resists Dark, so that will probs be your go/to anti-dark specialist (in an all-psychic party)

as far as ghost is concerned, malamar is the obvious choice, since dark resists ghost.

i'll still learning the game and all, but that seems like the go-to choice (i'd love to play the game with an all-psychic party one day since i love so many of them. mr mime <3 jynx <3 girafarig <3 the ralts line <3 xatu <3)

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posted September 13, 2013 04:13 PM
Edited by blob2 at 16:16, 13 Sep 2013.

About the Megas. Either those will be "uber" and restricted, or we'll see something like a mega-duel mechanic, events made for megas only. And we still don't know how does it really work in battle. Nevertheless, I like the idea behind Megas. Not only those will refresh some of the older generations Pokemon, but also, though nothing original, it's still a new "big" core mechanic added to the game.

Nice new trailer btw, some of those animations are simply gorgeous The game really shines in 3D.

IMO Pokemon X/Y seems to be the biggest thing to happen since the first Red/Blue games were introduced (well maybe the addition of new types or double-types was THE biggest thing after that.) And I'm not talking about 3D. They are changing things that were untouched from the beginning. For instance Grass types won't be seeded, spored or sleep-powdered anymore, or Electrics won't be paralyzed anymore! How about that!

PS: Nice touch with Pyroar's Male/Female forms...

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posted September 13, 2013 06:53 PM

the female pyroar looks like pidgeotto, lol.

these evolutions look interesting actually. the Fennekin line with dual to psychic (or possibly dark), the foakie line looks like it will evolve into water/fighting (omg &#9829; has this been done before? idr) and the chespin line... lol. i would guess it's Grass/Dark to complement Fire/Psychic and Water/Fighting, but given that Quilladin's japanese name, Harabogu means "armored hedgehog", i'm actually not ruling out Steel or even Fairy as a possible secondary typing.

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posted September 14, 2013 12:52 AM

Called it with the Attack on Mega Mewtwo X.

Lexxan said:
Fire resists Dark, so that will probs be your go/to anti-dark specialist (in an all-psychic party)


...no it doesn't. BUG yes, Dark no, unless I missed another type lineup change. Though if it's final form is Psychic I am planning for it anyway.

And as I said I want BOTH Dark and Ghost at the same time: first because it's logical for a Ghost Pokemon to have a Dark move or two--lots of them learn Dark attacks just by level-up, and it covers Normal types. Second because I can only carry six Pokemon at a time, and I will want to cover other Pokemon types in there somewhere. For example if I have to reserve a slot for Girafarig AND a slot for Gallade, I might not have a space for Starmie to take out the obligatory cave Pokemon.

@blob2: Leech Seed has never worked on Grass types. It will be interesting to see the effects of no powders though. (No Spore on Grass types!) And I hope very sincerely that the Spectral Ghost immunity to trapping moves does not extend to trapping Abilities like Shadow Tag, or failing that there are no roaming Ghost types after this...wait! Soak! We're saved!

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the female pyroar looks like pidgeotto, lol.


I agree, but I like Pidgeotto so I don't mind.

Lexxan said:
the foakie line looks like it will evolve into water/fighting (omg &#9829; has this been done before? idr)


Yup; Poliwrath. Never used it myself though, so I couldn't tell you if it was any good or not.

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posted September 14, 2013 10:39 AM
Edited by blob2 at 10:40, 14 Sep 2013.

@Kareeah_Indaga

I said "seeding" attacks, not Leech Seed attack There are a couple of those. Still, this is how it was called on Serebii.

Also, this came to my mind: if we will get Electric type immunity to paralyze attacks, which is logical in case of attacks based on electricity, I wonder how will it go with non-electrical attacks like Lick or Body Slam...

Female Pyroar like Pidgeotto, nice! Additionaly, I think it will (both genders) also be an insta' fan-favourite. For me at least

BTW, for the first time I think I will really have a hard time choosing my "super six". 2 starters, Noivern, Talonflame, Gogoat, Tyrunt, Pyrorar, Pangoro, Yveltal are already high on my list. And seeing that many old generation Pokemon (more then ever) will probably be available in game (all those Mega evolved ones! Garchomp, Absol etc.) players are in for a hard time choosing their rooster Maybe post-main story will help a bit...

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posted September 14, 2013 11:12 AM

if i were to rank the gen 6 pokémon i def thing furfrou, malamar or amaura would be near the top (ice-type returns and facades <3 bye-bye dragons) and i would have a hard time deciding between the others which i like more. because i like all of them,  lol.

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posted September 14, 2013 02:06 PM

I couldn't stand metagross nerf so I'd probably not play it even if I had a 3DS
Plus, 3D in pokemon... I'd rather see another classic isometric view game.
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posted September 14, 2013 07:25 PM

well it means you suffer from a bit of crybaby-itis but you'll get over that, hopefully.

Metagross and Bronzong were sort of overpowered really. Especially with the Heatproof Ability. Besides, they both are pretty big defence, so i don't see a big problem in the slight nerf. It makes people not just you... know... get lazy and have a party of Swampert/Metagross/Garchomp/Sableye/Scizor/Venusaur or smth like that, and dominate everything without problems.

Oh and: POISON GETTING A BOOST <3 since no one mentioned it. Koffing/Nidoran(M/F) <3

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posted September 14, 2013 07:37 PM

Hard to say. Gross was overpowered in Gen3, but after that it went downhill. It wasn't even very popular in the "overused" category of Gen 5. A shame, I loved it
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posted September 14, 2013 09:56 PM

Lexxan said:
Oh and: POISON GETTING A BOOST <3 since no one mentioned it. Koffing/Nidoran(M/F) <3


Second the cheering here; Poison needed it badly.

I'm thinking they nerfed Steel specifically for Metagross. Think about it: every other pseudo-legendary so far barring (double-weakness-to-Fighting) Tyranitar was a Dragon type. So Metagross is the obvious replacement for people who, as you put it, get lazy, especially with Steel being strong against the shiny new Fairy type.

(Note: Gamefreak having a logical reason for the nerf is not going to stop me from whining about having no options but Malamar. I'm a fan, I don't have to be reasonable. )

I do feel a little sorry for Hydreigon though. Double weakness to Fairy is going to hurt.
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posted September 14, 2013 10:37 PM
Edited by Lexxan at 22:38, 14 Sep 2013.

yess let's just ponder on that we're about to enter an epoch were THIS thing:



Will beat the crap out of these:



This is hilarious.

and so is the irony that MegaAmpharos being dual'ed into Electric/Dragon actually weakensit &#9829;
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