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Mytical
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posted August 12, 2009 10:00 AM |
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Except if your opponit has a stat negating move (like I believe Haze) or KO's your sweeper with a supereffective of their own. Something like Roar helps also  .
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Doomforge
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posted August 12, 2009 10:06 AM |
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agreed, however in single player you can boost yourself to max on the first pokemon of your opponent and then sweep his whole team. The game is too easy to do that on normal opponents but is fun on elite four or battle tower.
In MP, you can just use tauntrados. (gyarados obviously  ). Dragon dance, watch them switch their pokemon for a hazer, taunt him and he's done for, he has to switch again and you get another free DD, which should be enough to be faster than any pokemon out there while dishing monstrous damage.
In the newest generation though it doesn't work with hidden power being special-based, now he has to resort to waterfall instead of hidden power flying, which isn't bad but makes him walled by flying water-resistant enemies like articuno.
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posted August 12, 2009 04:06 PM |
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Is the pokemon card game fun?
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Lord_Woock
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posted August 12, 2009 04:56 PM |
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Well, I had lots of fun with the gameboy version of the card game. Except some overpowered Trainer cards, the game was really well made in the early years. However, at some point WotC sold the game to some other company and there was massive power creep.
Still, if another person or two would go for it as well, I'd get a preconstructed deck to see how the game's doing right now.
Also, regarding the Gameboy Pokemon TCG thing, I think it sucks that one could eventually assemble a single deck to beat everything.
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Doomforge
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posted August 12, 2009 06:53 PM |
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Many things sucked about TCG
1. imbalance - some cards are clearly stronger than others, I know every game is like that but this one doesn't even attempt to balance things.
2. number of cards. Variety is fun but, holy snow. Do you need 10 versions of the same pokemon? Light, dark, ex, shiny, someone's, team rocket's, team magma's... it goes on.. and on... and on @_@ For a game that simple, it's unnecessary and annoying.
3. Price. The cards are expensive and the ones usable are the most rare, usually. To get a deck you want, you'd have to buy 100000000 booster packs... and they are like, 6$ each or? Well anyway, I know for you US guys this is nothing, but for us poor guys.. 
The game is fun but the best way to play it is to download images from serebii site, print, glue them to a piece of cardboard and use as cards. That way you can have what you like absolutely for free and without the painful process of searching for cards you want.
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del_diablo
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posted August 14, 2009 08:21 PM |
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PMTCG is fun, well... yeah 
I already got a nice deck, buildt on a few cards i have gotten over time.
The game for GB was really good, if you want to have a fun game and learn the game.
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Kareeah_Indaga
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posted August 16, 2009 01:58 AM |
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Mytical
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Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted August 16, 2009 08:35 AM |
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Chikorita has always been one of my favorite starters. I prefer the female chikorita tho. Cyndaquil is second of the three, and poor Totodile is last. Only Pichachu tops Chikorita as a favorite starter, and I am slowly loosing the appeal for Pichachu. Is it odd I prefer 'cute' pokemon to 'strong' pokemon?
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emilsn
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posted August 16, 2009 09:44 AM |
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Hmm...
When do they make the ULTIMATE pokemon game with ALL regions ? and all pokemon?
BUt well I would actully rather buy that version than the others.
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Kareeah_Indaga
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posted August 16, 2009 07:11 PM |
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They'll never have ALL the regions...they couldn't keep adding more if they did that.  And some of them (Fiore, Almia) don't have a Pokemon League like Kanto and the others.
Favorite Johto starter for me would be Cyndaquil. My only complaint is that Typhlosion is kinda meh looking in comparsion to the two pre-evos.
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Mytical
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posted August 17, 2009 09:23 AM |
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They can make one with all the current regions tho .
The diamond/pearl/platinum starters are not that hot imo. I really don't care for any of the 'evolved' forms. They are cute when they start tho.
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Kareeah_Indaga
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posted August 19, 2009 08:58 PM |
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They are cute when they start tho.
Tangent:
It kind of grates on me that Empoleon/Torterra/Infernape can go into the Partner Park or whatever it's called that will only let in 'cute' Pokemon, but my cuddly little Riolu can't. I can understand that they don't consider Gyarados cute, but come on, Riolu?
EDIT: Shaymin event coming up the 28th through November 8th.
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ohforfsake
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posted October 06, 2009 06:25 PM |
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Hi, I thought I'd write my "pokemon history", and this thread seem like the obvious choice.
I'll make it short.
I wasn't the first one to bring it to class, but I was one of the first one to stop playing it again.
It got very popular, so "everyone" got a gameboy and played it with eachother, it's some years ago now, and I think there've been 1 or 2 new versions since then.
I remember beeing completely owned the first time I tried, being the class geek I was expected to actually do well and win.
After some time, I got my hands on a smeargle, and saw a good potential in it, so I trained it up high. I was the first to reach level 100, and everyone was amazed as how I'd OHKO everyone every time.
Anyway a girl in class (girls didn't go for fighting really) had trained a fearow of hers up to level 100 as well, and as usual the typical boys vs. girls thingy had started from someone unrelated and through peer presure (she thought she would loose, she hadn't been fighting before) we ended up battling, no surpise she Hyper Beamed my smeargle once and I lost.
Anyway, that made people think that it was only because it was level 100 I was winning and everyone started going hard to get to level 100, playing endless pokemon league challenges again and again.
Meanwhile I could see what was comming, so I made a plan of a "ultimate" team, or at least a team capable of winning every time against my class mates.
Now we did play turnaments, and only 2 types. Everything was okay, for turnament type 1, and for turnament type 2, you were not allowed to change your pokemon through any other means than baton passing (meaning you weren't allowed to use anthing else than the fight option). Oh and all battles were at set condition also no matter the turnament. And finally, items may only appear once, so no 6 scope lenses etc.
So I'd to make 2 teams, 1 for each type of turnament, my team consisted of baton passers to build up speed, substitute (to contra status changers, and hits that would go through), a 1 hp saver given the opponent had anti sleep berry, etc.
Anyway the tactic was very simply, build up agility, substitute, baton pass, the substitute would take a hit, getting removed, and I'd have a full hp smeargle out. (I used heavy hit points pokemon so the substitute didn't fade before I shifted, it'd have requred 4 crits in a row to win, and then there'd be the next baton passer ready).
Anyway when smeargle was out, I'd spore, if the opponent had a berry, it'd still survive the hit, due to the item, and spore again. Then finishing the first and finish the rest since it's agilitied and no more anti sleep berries (except the anti everything) would be present.
So with 2 smeargles I could win both types of turnaments, where for turnament 1, I'd my spider web smeargle as main, and for the second, I'd my foresight smeargle as main.
So after winning several turnaments, some of the others copied my team, I remember a battle which went like this:
Me: Agility
Opponent: Agility
Me: Agility
Opponent: Agility
Me: Agility
Opponent: Agility
Anyway it was no fun anymore and I stopped playing, shortly after the gameshark was presented and quickly everyone had legions of level 100's with optimal stats, etc.
Many asked if I didn't want to play again, they'd create some pokemons for me, but I said no thanks.
Then there came in-game prizes, but as you could create what you wanted with gameshark that lost it purpose quick, then real life prizes, but that made the game more like a duty than a game, and was quickly abbandoned.
Finally those who still played realised that all they actually were doing was to create a list of critters, then pick out 6 of those, and fight with eachother, not soon after we all went back to playing soccer, some complaining about the pokemon game lacking quality.
For it did lack quality, pokemon is for me in reality a one time play through, that tries to be an indefinite time play through, through the mean of many useable critters for your mission, but it's the same all in all anyway, the variation isn't enough, and the pokemon league really lacks quality.
Actually it was due to the lack of quality of the pokemon league we played turnaments in the first place, many was excited to see who'd first get to the pokemon league, and if they participated in the same time, if they'd maybe meet eachother or something like that. Well it turned out you were going to defeat the same guys with the same pokemon all the time, for some reason they never got better, yet they always maintained their position and you were never really champion of the league. An easy way to gain experience, but a very boring and dissapointing concept.
What I think was the best times, was before anyone of us had made it to level 100, we held one of the first turnaments (not the first), and what we did was to go through something like 10-15 pokemon league battles with exp shares on all pokemons that should be trained, that way we made lots of pokemons, 30 I think, all around level 70 or something like that (some had found legendary pokemons at this time, and used those).
Then we'd a turnament, oh it was super fun, a lot of variation, a lot of randomness, but it was what I think was best.
Something else to remember was the battle tower, when the first few people got there, it was only a romour in the class, when the best got there and got owned it was a place of awe, when the first person took down the place, it began to become pretty easy for the rest of us as well. Many played it at lower levels, using several glitches in the game to their advantage to gain those prizes quick, I did it on level 90-100, and it was much more fun than the pokemon league, but it was something you quickly would become tired of, and the turnaments was the real reason I did play, and when that reason kind of went away, then I stopped playing.
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emilsn
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posted October 06, 2009 06:58 PM |
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Remember -
Heart Gold and Soul Silver coming as the next games
remakes of Gold and silver
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Doomforge
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posted October 06, 2009 07:37 PM |
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OFFS, try the applications that allow online battling, the mechanics have changed a lot since then and the game is extremely fun now... you only need a good team, and guess what: it's really, REALLY hard to get one. You need a LOT of thinking and planning.
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ohforfsake
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posted October 06, 2009 10:57 PM |
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OFFS, try the applications that allow online battling, the mechanics have changed a lot since then and the game is extremely fun now... you only need a good team, and guess what: it's really, REALLY hard to get one. You need a LOT of thinking and planning.
That's nice to know.
However, unless I've some friends to play with, it won't work, it'd most likely just be the same experience as with diablo's battle.net, playing with people is good, but playing with random people is not.
It has to be with someone I care for, or the joy of the game quickly dissapears and it becomes about everything else, than what it should be about.
Edit: Well I decided to dig through a bit, and after discovering several grails (useless junk) I found the bulbapedia, list of moves, attributes, pokemons etc. lots and lots of information.
Some moves (and combinations), I think are way too overpowered, however I must agree with you that it's clearly more balanced now, though I don't know if it's due to skill of the programmer, or that the likelyhood of any kind of "ultimate" win strategy exists falls with complexity.
Anyway, I did also notice the 2vs2 battles, which seems very inbalanced, explosion and protect seems to be way to good for such battles, especially protect, that pretty much means, any 1-hit point powering pokemons (using stuff like reversal, etc.) easily can risk being taken out, simply by picking the wrong target, in stead of the former, certain win. Which also means focus sash, etc. isn't very good anymore. Oh and the fact that Lickylicky can learn Explosion, that's quite extreme, we're talking about a power of 900 after all calculations with the right items, with no crits! Not even a haxored 252 hp / 252 def Blissey would be able to survive that. Especially not since exactly this pokemon, due to its ability is very easy to raise in stat in 2 players battle mode through swagger.
Well anyway, I think 1vs1 seems very good now, and 2vs2 seems to be as bad as 1vs1 used to be.
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Doomforge
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posted October 08, 2009 09:06 PM |
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2v2 battles aren't balanced that well but 1v1 is fine. Blissey is just annoying but there are counters - in 3rd gen she was like Mirana in Dota or hammerdin in diablo - you could expect her in every game under the sun.
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emilsn
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posted October 12, 2009 07:33 PM |
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Dude and dudess, why do you get attached to your starter pokemon?!
I finally let it go to start a more unique group
I started playing ruby through for the 100th time
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Kareeah_Indaga
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posted October 13, 2009 06:38 AM |
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I didn't in Platinum, oddly enough. I usually do.  Ended up swapping out my Prinplup for my Gyarados; it wasn't until a while ago that I dug the poor thing out of storage and evolved him.
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winterfate
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posted October 13, 2009 06:42 AM |
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Empoleon has an atrocious skill set. It's probably the one thing that kills his typing, because frankly Water/Steel is pretty good.
Maybe I should raise a Sharpedo one of these days lol.
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