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Ispanecabg
Ispanecabg

Tavern Dweller
posted April 16, 2009 08:19 PM

Already too easy...

Hmm....i play with Dungeon, i play on heroic, i play vs 4-5 computer players (diferent factions), but the game is still too easy for me. More players is always longer game, not harder, also when i generated "OMFG" map the mobs were super-mega-extremely many...but me and the not-stupid computers just used teleport to skip them, which kinda made them useless on the map.
So i wanan ask, how can i help the computers to cheat...for example to start with fully build castle or with some army...or atleast make them attack me at the early stages, not to wait to develop to the max. I want a way to make the opponents really hard to defeat. Is tehere a way to make everybody start with "ready" castle and my opponents with armies ? Or anyone have any other ideas how to make the game harder ?
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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


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posted April 16, 2009 08:49 PM

Dungeon is an easy faction to dominate with (at least in my opinion) so try out different factions. You can always go in and edit the towns so they start more developed I guess, but besides that heroic is as hard as it gets.

Or get on Ubi.com and fight human opponents.
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Ispanecabg

Tavern Dweller
posted April 16, 2009 08:55 PM

Online is not a way, my internet connection is at the moment very bad, and i really can beat with any faction. Can u tell me how to edit the starting cities of the opponents ? Or how to give them some boost, or how to make them f.e. attack at the same time (if possible)
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VokialBG
VokialBG


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posted April 16, 2009 09:22 PM

Try this MOD or this one. And play with weaker town - necro
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Ispanecabg

Tavern Dweller
posted April 16, 2009 09:29 PM

Thanks for this mod, i think this is what i was looking for.And Necro - i think this is the weakest faction on the game...

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phoenixreborn
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posted April 16, 2009 10:53 PM

Quote:
I think this is the weakest faction on the game...

Why?
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Lexxan
Lexxan


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Unimpressed by your logic
posted April 16, 2009 11:12 PM

ROFLLOL, I cannot believe I'm reading that Necro is the weakest. Preposterous.

it simply depends on Game Length

Early-Game: Dungeon, Stronghold
Mid-Game: Sylvan, Haven, Necro, Inferno
End-Game: Fortress, Academy

imo... was some time since I'd last played H5...
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DagothGares
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No gods or kings
posted April 16, 2009 11:22 PM

Necro has no strong armies, needs good micro-management for their raise dead skills to be effective and pretty much has only the hero and dark magic going for him, which sucks, simply because any other faction has a hero going for them and some halfway decent units to back themselves up.
I suppose if you have a good, experienced guy in it, you have chances of putting up a decent fight, but necro just doesn't quite cut it for the average or newbie player.
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Elvin
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posted April 16, 2009 11:58 PM

Vokial loves necro so much that he does not want to see it hurt
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magnomagus
magnomagus


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modding wizard
posted April 17, 2009 12:20 AM

No matter the length of the game the AI plays best with Haven or Sylvan, because it cannot effectively handle skills that require complex thinking (summoning magic, gating, artificier). Moreover the fast striking Haven and Sylvan creatures with high defense are relatively better at raging into battle without using brains.

Other things you can do:

-Open the map you want to play in the map editor and set the players to allvs1.
-use a campaign hero unlocker and give the Ai uber powerful heroes: markal, saint isabel, king tolghar etc.



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ChaosDragon
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posted April 17, 2009 10:48 AM
Edited by ChaosDragon at 10:50, 17 Apr 2009.

If you want a harder game:
Don't use dungeon, academy, stronghold, and fortress if you want a harder game.

Most custom maps (non ubi map) are easier than ubi maps (maps made by the developer).

Pick non easy mode heroes. Example of easy mode heroes: deleb, grok, havez, nur, jhora, sinitar, yrwana, ossir (and some other heroes).

Pick poor map with many AI, and many creeps, play it at heroic, defeat at least 1 AI in week 3. Recommended faction: inferno, or sylvan. And don't pick War machine (no war machine allowed).


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phoenixreborn
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posted April 17, 2009 03:21 PM

I still haven't seen any arguments why Necro is the weakest in the game.

To the topic many fan maps have instant travel disabled.  I also personally modify maps like Dragon Pass to disable instant travel.
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Ispanecabg
Ispanecabg

Tavern Dweller
posted April 18, 2009 10:39 AM

Some feedback:
1. Making AI's Sylvan/Heaven - i think it worked, because they are kinda stronger now, especially Sylvan heroes.
2. Installing the "Advanced AI" mod - i dont see any change...maybe only that AI's cheat harder
3. "Allvs1" - i always use this
4. Disable Fly/Instant travel - AI's started to attack after the 6-7 week("extra hairy" map), but until they get to me their armies almost die and they use town teleport...so it will be a very long time map, but the happy thing is AI's heroes get 20-29lvl and are more competitive, and battles - more hard and fun.
5. Campaign hero unlocker idea - will test it today, but i think this wont change so much the AI's strenght.
6. About the custom "hard" maps & Developer maps: Yeah i know some of the custom maps are easier, not because of the monster, but because of the many artifacts/mines, etc, which are not so many on the developer maps. That's why i started to modify them after i created with generator.

PS: Char-> Sinitar

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VokialBG
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posted April 18, 2009 10:50 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 10:51, 18 Apr 2009.

Quote:

5. Campaign hero unlocker idea - will test it today, but i think this wont change so much the AI's strenght.


Really dude, try playing agains another Dungeon with CPU Raelag, he is going to smash you in late game! Just let him get level 15-20

Also Markal with Necro on map with many undead neutrals.

King Tolghar is great idea too with that Thunderclap.
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Ispanecabg
Ispanecabg

Tavern Dweller
posted April 18, 2009 12:35 PM

Quote:
Quote:

5. Campaign hero unlocker idea - will test it today, but i think this wont change so much the AI's strenght.


Really dude, try playing agains another Dungeon with CPU Raelag, he is going to smash you in late game! Just let him get level 15-20

Also Markal with Necro on map with many undead neutrals.

King Tolghar is great idea too with that Thunderclap.

Good advices btu mod appears to not work on custom made maps, i'll finish hte one i started and then try it on normal developer map

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phoenixreborn
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Unicorn
posted April 24, 2009 08:05 PM

I think Necro is the strongest faction in the game and Dungeon the weakest.
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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted April 25, 2009 02:18 AM

I think that nothing is too easy with just some peasants in the army.


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Vashanesh
Vashanesh

Tavern Dweller
One Bat Short of a Belfry
posted October 12, 2009 09:18 AM

@Ispanecabg if you wanna fight a really overpowered faction try crimson necropolis.
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soamazing
soamazing

Tavern Dweller
posted October 12, 2009 07:02 PM

Quote:
Vokial loves necro so much that he does not want to see it hurt


lol

Anyway, play online if you want competition

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rottenvenetic
rottenvenetic


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Derusticated
posted October 13, 2009 12:57 PM

Don't do anything but end turns the whole of Week 1.

If that's not enough, extend as required.

After that, use whatever means necessary to winsurvive.

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