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Zenithale
Zenithale


Promising
Famous Hero
Zen Mind
posted May 02, 2009 06:59 PM

I have tried Hourglass but it's exactly the kind of map that I hate, sorry. IMO there are too many and too easily available ressources/artifacts/towns/... On this map we MUST play with at least 2 heroes to creep faster, and thus it takes more time (easily 20 min) to finish each turn, particularly with Logistic+warpath+Oasis+stable+rallyflag+...
I really prefer play 3, 4 or even 5 "normal" games than just one time Hourglass.
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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted May 02, 2009 07:19 PM
Edited by sq79 at 19:24, 02 May 2009.

Quote:
I have tried Hourglass but it's exactly the kind of map that I hate, sorry. IMO there are too many and too easily available ressources/artifacts/towns/... On this map we MUST play with at least 2 heroes to creep faster, and thus it takes more time (easily 20 min) to finish each turn, particularly with Logistic+warpath+Oasis+stable+rallyflag+...
I really prefer play 3, 4 or even 5 "normal" games than just one time Hourglass.


Hmm its easy in the first 2 days, but when you do fights like versus level 6 on day 3, level 5s and so on, it gets interesting, just something different from the usual early creeping...

So no one finished a game there ?

The reason i suggested it was because this map was probably pushed to the limits in every part of the game. There's many ways to play it, not the same old route every time.

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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 06, 2009 08:49 PM
Edited by Equila at 21:04, 06 May 2009.

Hiya, been lurking these forums for quite a while now but decided it was time to finally post something

Playing Tote 3.0 Urghas on HG, Arenamod/Teleportmod:

Flaming Ballista / Luck / Enlight / Logistics (Ballista and Enlight from Witch Huts)

Break on W3D1 - [url=http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8633/hgbreakw3d1stronghold.png]Screen[/url]

Really dont see how you manage to get the 2nd ore/wood within 3 weeks, running a secondary hero down there aswell?

Will try to upload the break and other relevant fights soon but the last fight was pretty boring in terms of micromanagement

Edit:
[url=http://www.speedyshare.com/385581160.html]Replays[/url]
Checked them again and there's some missclicks and bad moves but I tried to make it quite fast, I find it a bit too tedious to save/reload every fight to get it perfect.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted May 06, 2009 09:14 PM

Week 3 day 1, nice. Though in 3.0 flaming arrows ignored 100% of target defense and now they ignore half.
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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 06, 2009 09:31 PM

Quote:
Week 3 day 1, nice. Though in 3.0 flaming arrows ignored 100% of target defense and now they ignore half.


Right, I knew I had forgot about something. Warpath only gives 100(350 in 3.1 according to the skillwheel) movementpoints which makes it a tad harder to get around thou.

Still sort of puzzled which path is the best around that map, I loose about 2 days minimun if I go for the extra wood/ore but it might be worth it if you head for it early. Not quite sure which way is the optimal.

Guess I need to try another build that isnt broken in 3.0 to make it fair. Any suggestions for a hero that works?

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted May 06, 2009 09:35 PM

Just patch the game, 3.1 is a lot different and more balanced.
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted May 06, 2009 09:43 PM

Welcome to the forums Equila.  Excellent post.

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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 07, 2009 01:16 AM

Quote:
Just patch the game, 3.1 is a lot different and more balanced.


Ye, I would if I could. Installed the game way back and I can't seem to find my cd now. There's some um.dll file missing for some reason so I can't patch it. Been changing my files some to mod the game. Thinking about buying another cd if I can't find it soon, shouldent be too expensive these days.

Quote:
Welcome to the forums Equila.  Excellent post.


Thanks!

Made another try at hourglass. Bored out of my mind right now, necro isn't really that much fun to creep with. 50 dmg, raise dead, 50 dmg...
Missed Utopia/Artifact Merchant/Underground Mines and Creeps due to movement so I was low on artifacts and mediocre level when I finally got to the barricades(W3D2 1 days movement away at D1). And failed miserably

Lucretia - Basic Logistic(Greedy getting the basic skills I wanted) / Last Stand / Summoning / Sorcery / Intelligence

Some decent battles during the last days, the terrain vs cyclops is priceless:

[url=http://www.speedyshare.com/549363195.html]Replays[/url]

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted May 07, 2009 02:50 PM

Wow nice try with urgat , i can't seem to view the replays, can u post the link to the mods? Or i would need 3.0 as well to view the replays ?
I fought with 2 heroes usually, so the key is with the 2nd hero actually.

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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 07, 2009 03:16 PM

Quote:
Wow nice try with urgat , i can't seem to view the replays, can u post the link to the mods? Or i would need 3.0 as well to view the replays ?
I fought with 2 heroes usually, so the key is with the 2nd hero actually.


Thanks, tried a few more times now and the moons must have been aligned or something since I can't even get close to such a fast opening again. Enlight/warmachines from huts sort of helps aswell

2 heroes really, quite amazing that you manage to split the armies. I'll try that during my next run I think.
I seem to need every last man. Had matriarch at my artifacts and arcane archer on 2nd town, after that you kinda need a refill.

I just patched my game to 3.1 and the replays seem to work. Should have mentioned that its the Arenamod Plus(zenith+others). Last battle is on one of the new arenas I think.

[url=http://heroescommunity.com/post.php3?action=reply&action2=replywquote&PID=674246&TID=28380&FID=18&pn=1]Arenamod Thread[/url]
[url=http://www-physique.u-strasbg.fr/~dguincha/4M/MODs/New_Arenas_plus.h5u]Arena+[/url]

Sort of offtopic but I can't seem to remember what a map is called:
2 islands seperated at east/west with Angels / T7 to get to your utopia. Mentor/utopia and skillshrines in the middle.
Possible to play simulatanious turns until you get to the other side. Quite similiar in the way hourglass is set up.

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fiur
fiur


Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
posted May 07, 2009 05:35 PM

that map must be Lets Fight
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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 08, 2009 02:27 PM

Quote:
that map must be Lets Fight


Indeed it is, nice job on that one btw

Started another run for hourglass(can't let it go..) yesterday. Day 5 and it looks promising. Both towns, secondary hero Havez going for ore/wood -mines. Can't get the artifacts outside the town since its guarded by paladins which is nigh on impossible to get early as inferno. Should be able down them at the start of next week and head for the underground

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted May 08, 2009 02:35 PM

Hey phoenix where is the challenge?
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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 09, 2009 11:40 AM
Edited by Equila at 11:40, 09 May 2009.

My last try at Hourglass went out the window when I got "Week of Calm" during my second week.. -20% init for Inferno. I wasn't exactly screaming out of joy.

Quite a lot of gating abuse during the last 2 battles I played found [url=http://www.speedyshare.com/624623803.html]here[/url]

Kinda feels like I'm the only one posting(spamming) this thread now and as Elvin said I'm ready for a new challenge. Doesn't look like there's that many others trying right now

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted May 09, 2009 03:36 PM

Quote:
My last try at Hourglass went out the window when I got "Week of Calm" during my second week.. -20% init for Inferno. I wasn't exactly screaming out of joy.

Quite a lot of gating abuse during the last 2 battles I played found here

Kinda feels like I'm the only one posting(spamming) this thread now and as Elvin said I'm ready for a new challenge. Doesn't look like there's that many others trying right now


You're doing well Equila, not many are trying because week 3 day 1 was by itself very hard to break.
So you've done a good job in trying, thanks

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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted May 09, 2009 05:11 PM

Well, the only way to break in week 3 day 1 is to have very fast warpath. So, it's actually a matter of luck.

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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 10, 2009 02:22 PM
Edited by Equila at 14:26, 10 May 2009.

Quote:
Well, the only way to break in week 3 day 1 is to have very fast warpath. So, it's actually a matter of luck.


Same goes for skills when levelup, luck/morale rolls, weekly status, terrain, guardians on the map, secondary heroes avaible in town, number of resources gained, artifacts on map that works for your particular build... and so on.

The common thing for most it is that you can tip it all to your favor.

(This is not to say I dont agree and it can get mighty frustrating sometimes)

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ebbafan
ebbafan


Promising
Famous Hero
posted May 10, 2009 04:05 PM

took a look at hourglass; that garrison is pretty frightening, but against ossir is it? some thoughts:

ossir: high level bonus for arcane archers(no range penalty, good initiative, -defense + force arrow, an outstanding choice for creature specialist ) buildup(low level unit, 3 towns)
sylvan: favored enemy(all possible except phoenix?) + increased chance with every town(3)
light: stormwind for phoenix/air elementals/utopia
destructive: high druids/deep freeze/master of fire
logistics: warpath for whirlwind creeping or swift mind

other: mass slow, phantom forces for arcanes, multitasking via multiple heroes, necro for ghost/spectre barrier, last stand

there are a lot of good things to be said for ossir, but still day 1 of week 3 is nearly unfathomable!

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Soho
Soho


Hired Hero
posted May 10, 2009 04:23 PM

I cant load any of these reps. It always says ToTE stops working.
I patched game to 3.1.

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Equila
Equila


Hired Hero
Apprentice Strategist
posted May 10, 2009 04:39 PM
Edited by Equila at 16:40, 10 May 2009.

Quote:
I cant load any of these reps. It always says ToTE stops working.
I patched game to 3.1.


[url=http://heroescommunity.com/post.php3?action=reply&action2=replywquote&PID=674246&TID=28380&FID=18&pn=1]Arenamod Thread[/url]
[url=http://www-physique.u-strasbg.fr/~dguincha/4M/MODs/New_Arenas_plus.h5u]Arena+[/url]

Quite a lot of people use this addon for extra arenas, if you dont use it you probably cant load the replays.

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