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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted May 08, 2009 12:52 PM |
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Enlightment. More power => more power! Also, it is nessessary for Empathy if I play magic-oriented class.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted May 08, 2009 02:35 PM |
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Edited by Kispagat at 14:36, 08 May 2009.
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Logistics ... In my opinion, this skill upsets game balance - and always did (I play from heroes 3 on).
Agree. When a skill, which is a must choice in almost every multiplayer map, but the accessibility differs for each faction (2%-15%) that leads to an unbalanced situation.
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Darmo
Known Hero
True Gentleman
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posted May 08, 2009 03:15 PM |
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Logistic is very good skill but still enlightmen is best. It's not about the experience bonus but the primary skill bonus is very overpowered.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted May 08, 2009 04:40 PM |
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Logistics ... In my opinion, this skill upsets game balance - and always did (I play from heroes 3 on).
Agree. When a skill, which is a must choice in almost every multiplayer map, but the accessibility differs for each faction (2%-15%) that leads to an unbalanced situation.
Why is logistics a must-have skill? or any other skill for that matter?
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 08, 2009 05:28 PM |
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enlightenment is the best imho: intelligence, arcane intuition, scholar, mentoring, super stats + add'nl exp
a nearly unbelievable set
logistics is a pain to play without, and in island hopping maps demon lords are a real threat b/c of navigation + snatch
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted May 08, 2009 09:31 PM |
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Why is logistics a must-have skill? or any other skill for that matter?
Because extra 30% movement means that you run through the map much shorter time, which means resources, arties, stats, xp. This gives you strategical advantage, all other skills are useful in combat.
Also warpath and swift mind and sometimes snatch are very important.
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted May 08, 2009 09:39 PM |
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Logistics is necessary always as coefficient that multiplies all of other skills - it provides ability to use them more often (in a week hero with logistics will fight more combats than one without logistics exchanged for some combat-boosting skill). Logistics gives chance to strike in right place in right time - before enemy get prepared. Scouting and even more, Silent Stalker abilities are valuable for blitzkrieg. In my opinion, this skill upsets game balance - and always did (I play from heroes 3 on). Hero movement speed shouldn't depend on skill for good balance.
Oy!
Looking back, my revamped Logistics skill is overpowered. But the section on making better adventure movement part of the economy still sounds swell. 
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razor5
Famous Hero
Freezing...
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posted May 08, 2009 09:56 PM |
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enlightenment is the best imho: intelligence, arcane intuition, scholar, mentoring, super stats + add'nl exp
You forget the great ones IMO - Dark Revelation and Arcane Exaltation
Anyway,the Experience adding is useful than collecting it from the Chests (besides from the won battles)
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Blackdrazon
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 14, 2009 07:44 PM |
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Mebendazol is right about Logistics effect on gameplay but I agree with Ebbafan: it's just a pain to play without, once you get used to it, that is.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted May 14, 2009 08:43 PM |
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@Kispagat. I think you must get logistics because you assume your opponent will...but then you are both gaining those things you named (resources etc.) at same speed. So they cancel no?
So yes it is important...but ends up being non-factor.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 14, 2009 08:43 PM |
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Importance of Logistics is also dependant of map layout. Even if you had indifinite movement on day 1, it was not going to help you win, because you're army is not powerful enough to navigate through the map on day 1. Thus, if map is very tight and distances to available objects is short, Logistics is not that important.
Also, getting to the enemy first will not help you if enemy is stronger than you are because his superior stats have helped him claims arties earlier. Just an example that the argument goes both ways depending on situation.
I'd agree that Enlightenment is the better skill in the long run in that the +10 stat increase at level 20 almost always makes a difference - granted that you survive to reach level 20, that is!
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Patrunjelu
Hired Hero
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posted May 16, 2009 06:57 PM |
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Luck all the way. I just love the visual effect of a luck boost in combat and the increase of damage. A luck boost can make a huge difference in a fight where the sides are fairly unequal in terms of army rating.
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razor5
Famous Hero
Freezing...
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posted May 17, 2009 09:32 AM |
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Luck is good just in battles,but few times could happen to be equal armies except in the early-game or probably mid-game.Anyway,if I need to choose between luck and morale I'd choose luck,but Enlightment still the best
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Darmo
Known Hero
True Gentleman
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posted May 18, 2009 03:31 AM |
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@Razor
Luck is very useless when you hit a stack that surely die without luck. Morale is much better.
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted May 18, 2009 03:37 AM |
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How about getting a much less powerful retaliation with luck (since you do double damage and cripple the enemy more) than with morale? 
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Darmo
Known Hero
True Gentleman
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posted May 18, 2009 03:44 AM |
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maybe u're right. morale and luck is not a good skill to choose
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted May 18, 2009 03:58 AM |
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but don't forget empathy can be destructive especially with dwarves.
some skills are useful with all factions while others are subjective.
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Darmo
Known Hero
True Gentleman
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posted May 18, 2009 04:04 AM |
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but don't forget empathy can be destructive especially with dwarves.
some skills are useful with all factions while others are subjective.
I think empathy with other faction apply the same effect with dwarf
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted May 18, 2009 09:00 AM |
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No, more with Dwarves actually.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 18, 2009 10:59 AM |
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Noob. Dwarves are one of the worst average initiative factions.
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