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DarkCrystal
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posted May 09, 2009 10:12 AM |
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@Death: yes, it doesn't sound like mutation. Just a physical defect. I have something like that too, but in much smaller scale. My right eye is approximately half-dioptre better than my left eye. As for your left hand, it's most probably is a habit.
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xerdux
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posted May 09, 2009 12:23 PM |
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How is this mutation?
I thought mutations were like an altered way/form of evoloution (lol I dont know how to explain).
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DarkCrystal
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posted May 09, 2009 12:57 PM |
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Mutations and evolution are different things.
Evolution is a permanent process which involve whole specie, every single specimen. And evolution is turning to good. While mutations are just genetical defects.
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DagothGares
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posted May 09, 2009 01:01 PM |
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Doesn't evolution start with small mutations?
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DarkCrystal
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posted May 09, 2009 01:10 PM |
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No, I don't think so. The matter of evolution is that every next generation borns a bit different from previous. This difference is common for whole generation, but is so miserably small that it would become really visible after ages. And mutations are something like 'errors' in genetical code caused by mutagens.
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Lord_Woock
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posted May 09, 2009 01:10 PM |
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Doesn't evolution start with small mutations?
It does.
As far as I know, evolution works precisely because mutations occur. If a mutation is beneficial to the survival of the individual, then it'll likely be passed on. The chances of this happening are pretty small, though, so evolution is a very slow process.
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DarkCrystal
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posted May 09, 2009 01:14 PM |
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As far as I know, evolution works precisely because mutations occur. If a mutation is beneficial to the survival of the individual, then it'll likely be passed on. The chances of this happening are pretty small, though, so evolution is a very slow process.
Speaking like this we can say that mutations are part of evolution. But one single man with mutation won't change evolution process very much, don't you agree? Evolution is laid in us by nature itself. Not mutants make evolution.
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posted May 09, 2009 01:15 PM |
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My Great-Nephew has an extra thumb, it will be removed when he's grown a little more - but for now he has six fingers.
I have to say, that if I heard anyone call that baby a "mutant" I would probably have a lot of unkind words to say back to them.
Is that how you honestly see people born with physical abnormalities / disfigurements?
Perhaps I'm just reading your intent wrong, but I've never heard a person call another a mutant with out their being a very strong negative meaning behind the term.
BTW, I was sure when I saw the thread title that someone here would have replied "Mutants - are they needed?" so I applaud you all from refraining from the spam 
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DarkCrystal
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posted May 09, 2009 01:20 PM |
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@Pan: well, I don't say that people always say: "Ha! See, he's mutant! He has an extra finger! Let's blame him!" No, they don't act like this. But still, people don't like those who are different from them - it's instinct. I made this thread to know HC's attitude towards those who have any genetical defect. Perhaps this thread would teach somebody for better attidude. They are still people like everybody.
Also I would be very glad if it make anybody stop smoking or something.
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Lord_Woock
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posted May 09, 2009 01:27 PM |
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Speaking like this we can say that mutations are part of evolution. But one single man with mutation won't change evolution process very much, don't you agree? Evolution is laid in us by nature itself. Not mutants make evolution.
Why, yes, you can't have evolution without mutations. It's like having a box with a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle mixed in with another 100,000 from a big lot of other, incomplete jigsaw puzzles. Most of the pieces are irrelevant to the end outcome, but that doesn't mean all of them are.
EDIT: Pan's post made me curious and I decided to read up on it here.
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posted May 09, 2009 01:32 PM |
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I think a 124 yo vampire should have had it at school already.
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DarkCrystal
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posted May 09, 2009 01:35 PM |
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@Woock: Well, it was just my opinion. I'm not genetical scientist to say exactly.
Perhaps not all mutations are bad. As for me I think my mutation is good. It doesn't have any disadvantages, except some people thoughts. (I can't say that they just hate me. Most often it freaks them a bit at the first time but when they got accustomed, they don't take care) As for advantages, such form makes my finger much more agile what is quite useful in actions which involve finger-moving a lot, like playing a guitar.
But still, there are people, who have much more bad mutations. It is really hard to live with them for such people. And I want others to change their attidute towards them.
@Radar: come on, this is OSM. Here I'm not vampire.
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posted May 09, 2009 02:50 PM |
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Random mutation is half the mechanism by which evolution occurs. The other is natural selection.
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posted May 09, 2009 03:04 PM |
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As for advantages, such form makes my finger much more agile what is quite useful in actions which involve finger-moving a lot, like playing a guitar.
If you see it as an advantage, than you should be happy that you evolved in "better" way than others. Personally, when it comes to word "Mutation", I usually image something Fallout-like, ie. two heads and such (deformation that can be easily recognized without deeper examination), and not minor change in structure of body. I myself have extra bone in palm, which is actually quite handy (because my palm-strikes are quite damaging  ) - but only one person noticed that my hand has abnormal structure so far (it can´t be seen by naked eye, one must observingly touch my hand to feel the difference). I doubt there is person who has absolutely "normal" body - most of people have slight personal body traits, which I would call "Evolution" rather than "Mutation".
As for playing guitar with agile thumb on right hand - unless you are left-handed, you are picking with your right hand, so there should be no difference, shouldn´t it? Unless you are playing classical guitar (I´m not that experienced in finger picking, so it may be handy that way) or bass guitar (in case you are slapping a lot).
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posted May 09, 2009 09:07 PM |
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Speaking like this we can say that mutations are part of evolution. But one single man with mutation won't change evolution process very much, don't you agree? Evolution is laid in us by nature itself. Not mutants make evolution.
Evolution of humans?? Pretty good tough,that'll be the real "challange".I just want to see that people who said "Look at the monster! RUN!!!" to try that by themselves.It wouldn't be the real term of "evolution" but it's a small step to it.
Nature? I'd like "her" to make the evolution,but it's already destroyed by the human evolution.
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DarkCrystal
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posted May 10, 2009 09:20 PM |
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If you see it as an advantage, than you should be happy that you evolved in "better" way than others.
I am already. 
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As for playing guitar with agile thumb on right hand - unless you are left-handed, you are picking with your right hand, so there should be no difference, shouldn´t it? Unless you are playing classical guitar (I´m not that experienced in finger picking, so it may be handy that way) or bass guitar (in case you are slapping a lot).
I don't play guitar. I just gave an example of such action which involve finger-moving a lot.
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posted May 10, 2009 10:20 PM |
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Is homosexuality a mutation?
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ShadowCrystal
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posted May 10, 2009 10:25 PM |
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Is homosexuality a mutation?
Hmm, well, I don't think so. Only maybe a psychical and not physical.
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mamgaeater
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posted May 10, 2009 10:33 PM |
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Speaking like this we can say that mutations are part of evolution. But one single man with mutation won't change evolution process very much, don't you agree? Evolution is laid in us by nature itself. Not mutants make evolution.
Evolution of humans?? Pretty good tough,that'll be the real "challange".I just want to see that people who said "Look at the monster! RUN!!!" to try that by themselves.It wouldn't be the real term of "evolution" but it's a small step to it.
Nature? I'd like "her" to make the evolution,but it's already destroyed by the human evolution.
humans can't evolve. natural selection doesn't take place for the most part and its just a bunch of random mutations building up. this is due entirely to the fact that humans control their environments. since no unfavorable traits are dropped because those with unfavorable traits live long enough to reproduce (for the most part). natural selection cannot take place.
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posted May 10, 2009 10:36 PM |
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natural selection doesn't take place for the most part and its just a bunch of random mutations building up.
Natural selection doesn't work at ALL since the dawn of medicine.
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