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Zenofex
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posted December 01, 2014 08:00 PM |
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This is getting out of hand, it should go to a separate topic.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 01, 2014 08:07 PM |
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Personally, I've said all I am going to.
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VokialBG
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First in line
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posted December 01, 2014 11:30 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 23:35, 01 Dec 2014.
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Believe me. As a fencer... I'll like to say that the crossguard is something a sword need. Its something you can use when blocking and also something that protect your fingers. Getting hit at fingers is pretty painful.
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blizzardboy
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posted December 02, 2014 12:08 AM |
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I think it's fair to say that after a lively debate, I won and Artu lost. Good show everybody. Let's pack it up.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted December 02, 2014 12:20 AM |
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DagothGares said:
Typical late medieval longsword
Is that sword's guard in this post wide enough? That's a very practical sword still that could be used in the late medieval era. The little "hooks" at the guard can also be perfectly flat like here or they can be more "rounded" like here, but it all boils down to the same thing: balance and hand protection. These are all longswords, long narrow blades that would probably see use versus armored opponents.
If you maintain that it is different from the light saber than I'll concede my point.
I'd like to point out that the crossguards on these swords are about one third of the length of the one in the trailer 
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 02, 2014 12:35 AM |
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blizzardboy said:
I think it's fair to say that after a lively debate, I won and Artu lost. Good show everybody. Let's pack it up.
Heh, good one, trying to push my buttons? I'll change your minus 7 to minus 6 for trying so hard but you're smart enough to know your argument doesnt hold water. You just cant accept that you were impressed by something lame. It's okay blizz, we all like lame stuff sometimes, I, for instance, like Phil Collins.
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Humanoid
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Rest in Peace Juvia (48-499)
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posted December 02, 2014 12:45 PM |
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted December 02, 2014 02:00 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 14:03, 02 Dec 2014.
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VokialBG said:
Believe me. As a fencer... I'll like to say that the crossguard is something a sword need. Its something you can use when blocking and also something that protect your fingers. Getting hit at fingers is pretty painful.
Now replace your standard sword hilt guard with razor-sharp double-edge guard and tell me, how safe would you feel fighting with this kind of "protection"?
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posted December 02, 2014 05:17 PM |
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Can anyone tell me why people are dicussing the black stormtrooper?
I don't care for one.. All I really think about it is that it me reminds me of Spaceballs and that scene "We Ain't found ****"
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Stevie
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posted December 02, 2014 06:57 PM |
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Saw the trailer, read the last pages.
The debate over the sword is not really a debate. It's just one turk arguing about it being Christian symbolism. May I remind that turk that crosses existed long before Christianity as a Roman tool of execution. I concur with Bliz and the others that there is a practical side to it, to protect your hand. You'd have to be an absolute moron to deny that. And on top of that, the sword type has been seen before in the universe. So why the fuss? Just because one turk is blinded by "symbolism" and fails to see the practical use? Spare me...
As for me, I don't even like the sword. The wow effect as someone else said was really underwhelming and not before long it turned into the wtf effect. The trailer was unimpressive. I feel about it the same way I feel about The Hobbit compared to LotR. It's just not.. out there. I didn't expected anything better from Disney but this... At this point I'm not compelled in the slightest to see the movie.
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Zenofex
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posted December 02, 2014 07:51 PM |
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Quote:
I concur with Bliz and the others that there is a practical side to it, to protect your hand. You'd have to be an absolute moron to deny that.
Except that the non-laser part of the crossguard renders that protection useless. Given that even a moron can notice that, I think you have to edit your post. Go ahead, nothing to be ashamed of, lad. 
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Stevie
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posted December 02, 2014 08:43 PM |
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Who said that those lasers start from the tip? A better design would be three directional channeling from one middle point.
Alas, that doesn't at all undermine the offensive capabilities as Ad showed in his video, so regardless of it being inefficient on defense versus another lightsaber (which is not always the case), your point is still moot.
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posted December 02, 2014 09:08 PM |
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Interstellar is the best movie I have seen in a long time.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 02, 2014 11:04 PM |
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Such a T shape used as a big-size tool to crucify people and used as a hilt are not comparable by any logical standard, everybody knows that the cross had eventually turned into the symbol it is, BECAUSE the Romans used it to crucify people and presumably Jesus. That's not new info, it's irrelevant info. You also ignored every argument about hand protection, the differences between a regular crossguard and a symbolical one, and that we were talking about THIS design not a hypothetical one. The presumed relevance between my ethnicity and my argument is quite ludicrous, since its not only "Turks" who come up with the association. It's really ironic and fun to watch how every time you start an argument with phrases such as "any moron can see" you find yourself in the position of a moron within 5 seconds, getting refuted by anyone on a 101 basis. What's not fun is this though:
I'm not a nationalist, I'm neither proud nor ashamed of my (or any) ethnic origin, but it's getting quite distasteful to run into your latent racism every now and then, mentioning me as the Turk or Turkish evolutionist etc, no matter how irrelevant my ethnicity is to the subject. I am not at all surprised that a small-minded bigot such as yourself is also a racist but keep it out of the OSM.
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Stevie
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posted December 02, 2014 11:26 PM |
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You forgot to read the reply with which I followed. Main point being that regardless of it being bad on defense, it's still good on offense. And Ad's video shows that conclusively.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 02, 2014 11:37 PM |
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No, I didnt. That was never the point of the discussion, once the design is out there you can push yourself to find some perks about it eventually. If they had put in Ninjas with laser stars, you could come up with some insignificant perk to laser stars, also. Doesnt change the fact that ninjas in Star Wars would be lame, unimaginative and the actual reason laser stars made into the movie would be the historical existence of Ninjas, not the perks that you come up with afterwards.
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Stevie
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posted December 02, 2014 11:47 PM |
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Except that it's been in the universe since ages like Elvis pointed out, it's nothing about "finding perks afterwards". It's been like this since long ago, and the only reason you make a fuss about it is because you just found out now. I can understand you finding it unimaginative, frankly I'm not impressed either, but as long as consistency goes, it is consistent.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 02, 2014 11:52 PM |
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Why that is not so, had already been pointed out. You ignore all the details of the argument on both sides. It's just boring, I wont repeat them one more time for you.
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blizzardboy
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posted December 03, 2014 09:03 AM |
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Princess and the Frog was kind of a disappointment. It wasn't awful but I'm sad to see that it wont' go down as one of the stellar Disney princess movies. Just doesn't possess the humor or the fantastic songs that a good Disney princess movie needs.
Let's see.
#1 Rapunzel
#2 Belle
#3 Aeriel
#4 Jasmine
#5 Mulan
#6 Esmeralda
#7 Cinderalla
#8 Sleeping Beauty
#9 Snow White
Frozen was extremely good too, but it has a duo of princess and I don't feel like ranking them.
#1-6 are all extremely close together and I think I feel slightly dead inside for even giving them a numeric ranking. The Hunchback of Notre Dam at the #6 spot feels so wrong, but those other 5 princesses were all so good too...
Rapunzel gets #1 just through sheer feel-good fun from Tangled. That was when Disney redeemed itself from its combo of crappy movies in the 2000s .
Belle has the most attractive personality of all the princesses, AND THE ENDING MAKES ME NOT ONLY GET TEARY EYED, BUT ACTUALLY SOB.
Aeriel gets the #3 spot just from its feel-good atmosphere, similar to Tangled. Sebastian is great too.
Jasmine gets number 4, basically from the polemic of Robin Williams as Genie for the hilarity and then the sorcerer Jafar, who remains Disney's #1 best villain in my book (Jeremy Irons as Scar gets a close 2nd)
Mulan gets #5 for the great songs, and for Eddy Murphy as the ancestral dragon. That was his practice performance leading into Shrek (Dragon and Donkey are so similar)
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Elvin
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posted December 03, 2014 09:23 AM |
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I really liked tangled and frozen lived up to its expectations too. I could not understand all that hype but I watched it and it was plain fun 
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