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xerox
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posted December 15, 2014 12:43 PM

artu said:
Well, the whole consumer based culture and the alienation it brings is a theme anybody can relate to and it's crafted well. The "he was not real" thing was quite new at the time, a clever and creative twist, again crafted truly artistically and very harmonious with that theme. Although, the movie takes on a very serious issue, it never ever gets boring.  


How does consumer culture alienate people ???
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posted December 15, 2014 01:19 PM

To quote the film: "The things you own end up owning you."

You are constantly bombarded by memes to want more, to buy more, to get more, to earn more. The result is many people constantly feeling dissatisfied no matter how much more they buy. The fighting is in a way a metaphor of "the noble savage" who eats when he wants to, sleeps when he wants to and who doesn't give a damn to climbing up the social ladder estimated by income.

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posted December 15, 2014 02:55 PM

Yeah the point is people are so dull in the life, passionless, they live a life in which nothing excites them. Not really. A very bleak look at the life on many but I for one can relate, sometimes everything is just.. boring. Fight Club triggers some major feelings in them, something they thought they lost. At the same time it is as anarchistic as it gets. "I wanted to destroy something pretty".

Also it is a smart movie, even clever. I enjoyed the ride for sure, and as was pointed that twist was a real twist back then. That shock value.
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posted December 15, 2014 03:32 PM

Maybe people should aim for having less dull lives then.

artu said:
To quote the film: "The things you own end up owning you."

You are constantly bombarded by memes to want more, to buy more, to get more, to earn more. The result is many people constantly feeling dissatisfied no matter how much more they buy. The fighting is in a way a metaphor of "the noble savage" who eats when he wants to, sleeps when he wants to and who doesn't give a damn to climbing up the social ladder estimated by income.


I hate the idea of the happy, liberated and somehow noble savage.
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posted December 15, 2014 03:49 PM
Edited by artu at 15:51, 15 Dec 2014.

It was their way of aiming for a less dull life.

I'm not suggesting the movie presents a flawless philosophical argument, it's not an academic thesis. That's not how storytelling operates, it relates to your anxieties, urges, dillemas... And you dont have to agree with the point of view in an art work, at least completely agree with it, to be able to grasp it and let it broaden your horizon.
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posted December 15, 2014 04:47 PM

Tyler Durden is not the good guy. He's the satire of values that people may hold that conflict with current society. People feel estranged in modern society and have no more sense of identity, apart from what they own. This is wrong and Tyler Durden provides a (messed up but valid) answer to this feeling of disconnection: eff it. "How can you say you know yourself when you've never been in a fight."

The main solves this crisis by connecting with someone. Anyway, Fight Club is great, but I feel that not many people get that the charismatic Tyler Durden is an unapologetic villain, a cult leader of a violent sect.

And dude, consumer culture does alienate you. I am as economically liberal as it can get, but romanticism and feelings of detachment are byproducts of being mediocre in a wealthy society.

Film ending > book ending, by the way.
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posted December 15, 2014 04:55 PM

I dont think it has much to do with being mediocre, very rich people or exceptionally succsessful people can feel alienated, too. To a degree, it's an inevitable effect of modern urban life, just like famines were a fact of agricultural times. I agree on interpreting Tyler Durden as a kind of Mr. Hyde, though. That's right on spot.
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posted December 15, 2014 05:14 PM

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I agree on interpreting Tyler Durden as a kind of Mr. Hyde, though. That's right on spot.
That's well put.

And the rich can be mediocre as much as anyone else. Whether the succesful feel alienated, I guess it's possible, but in my mind, people that go out being actually good at what they do and enjoying it have less troubles with "not feeling part of society."

It's less of a standard scenario, I guess, but I will cede my point halfway. I meant to say that: people that don't feel passionate about something they do or don't feel accepted about it will easily have feelings of alienation as they punch out the clock day in day out.
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posted December 15, 2014 05:24 PM

Well, it's a sensible half-way, yet, I still don't think passion for what you do completely removes the alienation, it can soften it to a much more tolerable degree, resulting in a qualitative difference but come to think of it, half of modern literature is about alienation and most writers are very passionate about what they do.

I gave rich as an example because you said "mediocre in a wealth society, btw.

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posted December 15, 2014 07:01 PM

As opposed to a primitive society/ a society without general welfare. Welfare being defined as: everyone has access to daily food, drink and a new set of clothes every year/ month. I perhaps should be more clear in my communication.

Also, writers often are melancholic or depressed and its this sadness that they feel that causes them to write. People who have artistic drive and are romanticists are the exception is what I'm saying.

But eh, in my language we would be saying that "we are going out in the meadow", ie we're starting to get off-topic.
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posted December 17, 2014 10:15 PM

Watched the Hobbit: the Battle of the Five Armies.

It is exactly as you would expect after watching the second film. Some scenes are simply awesome, but others are such abominations that you will ask for P. Jackson head in the theatre and forbid him from ever touching Tolkien material again.

PS: Super Mario Bros related with the Hobbit, Jackson manged to do this. Urghhhh
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posted December 23, 2014 09:53 PM

let's brace ourselves for the Simmarillion trilogy from Jackson. bound to happen sooner or later.


Watched two films as of late.

Spaceballs, the best Star Wars movie parody ever. they don't make parodies like they used to. after Scary Movie 2 it all went down the crapper.


Also, seen the Prestige. A very decent movie, for those who seen it for the first time, it really keeps the sort of tension going, as you're wondering what the bleep is gonna happen next. A complete mindbleep for some, like other Nolan films except the batman crap.
A really well done film.


next up on my list is Road to Paloma, starring and directed by Khal Drogo. Let's see what the hell that is. expecting another ala 90s action flick.
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posted December 28, 2014 08:03 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 08:42, 28 Dec 2014.

Ultron sounds like a good villain. I like the voice actor.

I'm smelling a Civil War between Stark and Rogers in the next Avengers, or maybe Captain America 3 or Ironman 4. The Civil War was supposedly a very good & interesting storyline in the comics. Rogers' ideology relies on building alliances with powerful superheroes to defend Earth, whereas Stark loses trust after so many infiltrations from the inside and he becomes the director of S.H.I.E.L.D., and it ends up degenerating into open conflict.
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posted December 28, 2014 08:38 AM

I'm predicting that Avengers 2 will adhere to the trilogy rule, which is to say that in the 2cnd movie things will be the darkest for the heroes. Basically it's going to be an Ultron win, then in the 3rd movie the Avengers regroup with a bunch of disparate members.  The last scene in Avengers 3 is prolly going to be a team huddle of some sorts with the next generation.

Also I predict hulk will get thrown into the sun.  At least I hope he does.

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posted December 28, 2014 02:38 PM

kipshasz said:
let's brace ourselves for the Simmarillion trilogy from Jackson. bound to happen sooner or later.

Please no. He's corrupted enough Tolkien material already
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posted December 28, 2014 04:16 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 16:28, 28 Dec 2014.

I'm just waiting with panted breath for the highly anticipated "Galadriel vs Magneto" film that is sure to come.
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posted December 28, 2014 05:04 PM

Well, if you're wearing a metal crown, you don't stand much of a chance against Magneto, do you...



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posted December 28, 2014 07:29 PM

They need to have a Sauron vs Magneto movie just so they can build up to the climatic end where Sauron gets the One Ring, then Magneto just rips it off his finger and bullets it through his head, and the movie ends.
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posted December 28, 2014 08:37 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 20:42, 28 Dec 2014.

I call it haxs
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posted December 28, 2014 09:48 PM

so... I watched the movie which had offended the supreme leader, kim jong fatass. of the "communist" "Democratic" "people's" "republic" of Korea.

The Interview was a bit cheesy on once side. something you might enjoy while tipsy or stoned.
but on the other hand it has a nice amount of political satire. for both sides.
pretty watchable. has some hilarious bit, but in my opinion fails as a decent comedy.

as much as I love politically incorrect humor, but many of the "gay" jokes present in the film were poor at best.

and I'm starting to suspect that this whole thing with kim jong fatass getting offended and all the related events was just a massive publicity stunt.

I expected better. but even that, the film is watchable.

next up, films parodying comrades Castro and Lukashenko. get to work Hollywood!
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