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posted August 20, 2015 12:39 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
The golden dwarf statue was pure awesome though  
No it wasn't 
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posted August 20, 2015 01:18 PM |
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That statue was all about showing Smaug that the Dwarves were not to take lightly. They were still alive and they were still fighting him. They stand against him still. Smaug himself couldn't fathom it. the confusion and shock in his look just before the thing melted all over him? Magnificent. That is how you crush hubris.
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posted August 20, 2015 01:42 PM |
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blizzardboy said:
I don't think Jackson lost an ounce of his talent. There is some awesome film selectively within each of the three newer movies.
That's like saying somebody's still playing great violin, all you have to do is take out some scratchy notes. A great deal of "the talent of directing" is to arrange that selection anyway. If a film is too long or there are too many filler scenes, there is no one to blame but the director.
It's not only the length anyway, the new Hobbit movies just dont have the same spirit. LoTR had a very balanced structure when it came to feeling like a fairy tale, it also had its own fantastic sense of humor but it was just a sprinkle. The Hobbit movies are caricaturistically childish and overdone in those aspects.
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posted August 20, 2015 02:01 PM |
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Corribus said:
It's too bad he royally snowed up the Hobbit.
I been a JRRT for 26 years when PJ made the LotR, they weren't perfect but still very good efforts under difficult circumstances but the Hobbit went from bad (wifey knowing I'm a fan bought the first movie "knowing" it would be good)to worse...to I didn't even bother to see the last one.
I think greed ruined things this time around. The first go, the Studio got three blockbusters and wanted the same this time, no matter the source material.
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posted August 20, 2015 02:36 PM |
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I found them extremely fun and lighthearted. Prefer them over towers and return any day and that final battle is pure, childish bliss
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posted August 20, 2015 09:44 PM |
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The Hobbit was too childish in some aspects. Everything often felt like one giant fight scene especially the last movie it just failed to capture the book well at all. I will say though I enjoyed the first one but the last two were "not good".
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posted August 20, 2015 10:37 PM |
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I tried watching the final movie, I tried so hard, got 10 minutes in and just turned it off and watched some anime instead, I don't see why I have to try so hard when watching the movie makes me physically ill. It wasn't even childish, just plain dumb and painful to watch.
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posted August 21, 2015 01:35 AM |
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I didn't have a problem with the padding, per se. I had a problem with the fact that they (probably at the studio's behest) completely changed the tone from that of the source material. The story isn't about "The End of the World is Nigh". It's a quaint adventure. Consider that the subtitle is "There and Back Again".
It just ended up feeling like another 8 hours of Lord of the Rings.
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posted August 21, 2015 06:59 AM |
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Which you would have gotten if you subtracted the superfluous material.
The Hobbit has a "cozier" tone in the books than the LotR, and you never got that in movies except in the first 1/3rd of the first installment.
Thoroughly treating a book in a movie, even a 3+ hour movie, is going to leave gaps. I suppose they could have done a Hobbit 1 & 2 without overstretching, but a 3rd installment pretty much demanded the long insertion of Azog into the story.
Much of contemporary film is, unfortunately, rather cookie cut. Other than being able to produce 3 movies from it, I'm sure they also wanted a distinct "main bad guy" other than the Dragon, who dies before the book is even concluded. Tolkien's sequence of events goes against the grain of the predictable sequence of events in many action/adventure films. You can't have the archenemy die 3/4th of the way through, but then have another major event before the story is over! That is heterodoxy. Audiences will stare at the screen with bewilderment, and then start aimlessly wandering around the movie theater asking for instructions on what to do next and questioning staff for why the movie is still going on. Infants will start crying. An elderly person will get accidentally pushed over by an irate customer. Refunds will be given. Businesses will shut down. Protests will develop on the streets. Herry will get appointed to mod the OSM. Elvin will be banned for having temper tantrums. Nothing will make sense anymore.
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posted August 21, 2015 07:15 AM |
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Question, dafuq was the point of them flying all the way to New Zealand just to have the whole friggin movie shot in a studio?!?!
Lotr actually felt authentic and god forbid "REAL", there were roughly 300 actors for each of the races and actual armour/weapons/gear for each of them. Not to mention the stunning visuals. I mean seriously, who didn't get an amazing warm and fuzzy feeling as Frodo and Gandalf ride through the Shire?
The Hobbit has nothing, there are no feels. Also wtf is a random Pearl Harbour esque fail love triangle doing in the Hobbit where it don't belong (doesn't belong anywhere ffs!)???? Have you lost your ****ing mind P. Jackson?!
I felt nothing but revulsion and awkwardness.
To me all three movies were just epic failures of an unprecedented scale, the first movie was nothing but one giant dumb chase scene, the goblins were represented with "hilarity" (if you have some brain trauma or if you're a very very small child you found the goblin tunnel scene 'funny'). Where the hell is the company's fear of being slowly tortured to death? Oh no let's laugh at the goblin king's ****ed up looking chin and cheery voice yaaaay!
Second movie was the perfect sequel, as it managed to add something to the pie. The first movie was just boring and stupid, while the second one actually made my stomach churn. First was Beorn, description of him is a dark hearded well built man literally looks like a bear, INSTEAD we get some mother ****er that looks like he lived inside of a bin for the entire latter part of his life...
Then...comes the god awful weird romance thing, that unnecessary and cringe worthy converstation in the dungeon. To make matters worse not only is the 'romance' so poorly done, for some god awful reason they had to make it a love triangle that just feels forced and unnatural. A ****ing love triangle....in a light hearted adventure....what in god's name were the script writers smoking?! After watching 2 of the movies I seriously fail to see why it was made into 3 seperate films, most of the scenes are boring and feel like they're there so you have some god awful tripe to watch, and they mutated the story significantly cause they believed their retarded version is somehow superior to the magical journey we all know and love, a hobbit going on an adventure.
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posted August 21, 2015 11:08 AM |
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hey, they're made a new Hitman movie.
I wonder how much that will suck. won't waste money at a cinema to find out, that's for sure.
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posted August 21, 2015 12:06 PM |
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I have to admit I was bored to death when watching the Hobbit movies, and I went long without even watching the third part because I deemed it is not even worth my time. The just like Tsar I eventually forced myself to watch it, just because I loved the LotR so much. It was painful to watch... :/
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posted August 21, 2015 12:39 PM |
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kipshasz said:
hey, they're made a new Hitman movie.
I wonder how much that will suck. won't waste money at a cinema to find out, that's for sure.
It has 6% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I guess that it is as bad (or worse) than Pixels and Fantastic Four.
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posted August 22, 2015 05:34 AM |
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So young grasshoppers, and grandpa grasshoppers, anybody got recommendations for some good, not-as-well-known movies? Preferably in the drama vein.
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posted August 22, 2015 06:47 AM |
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For a drama, I'd say Glengarry Glen Ross, especially for a hopped up, high metabolism individual such as yourself.
wiki: "shows parts of two days in the lives of four desperate Chicago real estate agents who are prepared to engage in any number of unethical, illegal acts—from lies and flattery to bribery, threats, intimidation and burglary—to sell undesirable real estate to unwitting prospective buyers."
it's really a unique movie that sticks in your mind.
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posted August 30, 2015 10:01 AM |
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Yes it is. I have to rewatch one of these days 
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posted August 30, 2015 02:08 PM |
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I forgot how fun Demolition man was. Big laugh and Stalone + S.Bullock are radiating. Watched the last action movies coming form Murika: The 4 fags, Jurassic prank, Mission possible and Ant man, was very frustrated. Blank and tepid.
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posted August 30, 2015 06:14 PM |
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The hobbit movies were a big "meh" for me. I watched all three movies, but it felt like I was watching extended extended version of the movies. I couldn't get "into" the story, just felt total outsider if you will. The first lotr-movies were much better IMO. The final battle movie just feels like it drags on and on. I mean even the "300"-movies understand to take a break from battle more than that movie. Even more sad is that I consider the last movie best of the three... It's just something you would watch for the battles and forget all about the rest of the movie(s). Sadly Hobbit is the only Tolkien book I didn't read and after watching the movies I don't even feel like reading it anymore. I do hope they will make a movie about some of stories in Silmarillion at some point, but I wouldn't mind different director as I fear it would be just all about the battles with jackson and how much special effects he can shove in there...
As for the hitman -movie, it's ok movie if you haven't played the games or think of it as having little to no relation to them. It's just an action movie more like some old Seagal movies, actually never mind since those had more stealthy stuff in them... For some reason I would think story of silent assasin would have stealth-elements and assasinations in it instead of having a genetically modified rambo as main character, but that's just me. It's not a bad movie, but more of something you just wanna switch your brains off when watching it(and possibly doing dozen other things on the side).
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posted August 30, 2015 06:53 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
That statue was all about showing Smaug that the Dwarves were not to take lightly. They were still alive and they were still fighting him. They stand against him still. Smaug himself couldn't fathom it. the confusion and shock in his look just before the thing melted all over him? Magnificent. That is how you crush hubris.
what? they explained the situation in the movie, i don't see how you got something else from that. 
the statue was made as a distraction and a trap. dragons like gold, and smaug was known as the greediest of dragons. the dwarves knew that the statue wouldn't stay solid(it wouldn't have enough time to cool), that it would eventually collapse, and cover smaug in molten gold. they had hoped it would kill him.
smaug's stupified look(i didn't care for it at all), was because he had never seen anything so huge that was made of gold. it was his greed kicking in, and his pleasure and astoundment of seeing such a thing that was his size made of gold. i really didn't like how they made smaug seem so intelligent in the beginning of his conversation with bilbo, and then turn into an apparent moron later on. it was completely unbecoming of what started out as an intelligent dragon.
smaug was the only real reason i watched the hobbit movies(they were so subpar, compared to the lord of the rings trilogy. i still haven't seen the 3rd one, because i don't really want to). i knew smaug was going to die, but i rooted for him anyway. he was MY hero.
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posted August 30, 2015 07:04 PM |
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blizzardboy said:
Audiences will stare at the screen with bewilderment, and then start aimlessly wandering around the movie theater asking for instructions on what to do next and questioning staff for why the movie is still going on. Infants will start crying. An elderly person will get accidentally pushed over by an irate customer. Refunds will be given. Businesses will shut down. Protests will develop on the streets. Herry will get appointed to mod the OSM. Elvin will be banned for having temper tantrums. Nothing will make sense anymore.
LOL.
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