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fred79
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posted May 09, 2016 02:44 AM

juc said:
Combine these two dumb superheroes and you get the CRAP that was batman vs superman. Add some more dumb superheroes and mix it together with the world's worst combination of objects possible and you get another popular superhero movie that will only have graphics as a plus. Batman va superman waas the worst movie I've ever seen. I hope you understand what  i am being angry for . I was just so disappointed in this really bad movie.



and i'll bet you sat through the whole thing, didn't you? if you did, you only have yourself to blame for watching that tripe. did you pay money to see it? if you did, you screwed yourself twice. it's not like you weren't warned with the trailers alone.

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posted May 09, 2016 07:34 AM
Edited by juc at 07:35, 09 May 2016.

fred79 said:
juc said:
Combine these two dumb superheroes and you get the CRAP that was batman vs superman. Add some more dumb superheroes and mix it together with the world's worst combination of objects possible and you get another popular superhero movie that will only have graphics as a plus. Batman va superman waas the worst movie I've ever seen. I hope you understand what  i am being angry for . I was just so disappointed in this really bad movie.



and i'll bet you sat through the whole thing, didn't you? if you did, you only have yourself to blame for watching that tripe. did you pay money to see it? if you did, you screwed yourself twice. it's not like you weren't warned with the trailers alone.


Yes, i gave the film a chance. Seemed very much like a high quality movie even though it was a superhero movie. I was so disappointed, I was waiting for something remotely witty or even interesting the whole movie, but it was still one of the worst movies  I've seen. Not even kissing... What happened to interesting movies even? The only somewhat good superhero movie I ever watched was probably watchmen. That one was mediocre. I liked the mask dude. The rest was meh.


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posted May 09, 2016 08:34 AM

Witty? Its trailer's 'funny' point was "I thought she was with you?" Snyder isn't known for his sense of humour, his attempts in watchmen were rather cringeworthy.
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posted May 09, 2016 09:13 AM

Elvin said:
Witty? Its trailer's 'funny' point was "I thought she was with you?" Snyder isn't known for his sense of humour, his attempts in watchmen were rather cringeworthy.


But watchmen kept me watching. It was more interesting than bore-man fighting criminals with brute force, with the worst reasoning ever("my parents died to a thief, i must stop all thieves by beating them up for a decade) and then the joker says we must stop batman, blah blah blah, boring. Watchmen had more interesting characters to me, who never even read the comic books. Batman is overdone. But don't get me wrong, watchmen wasn't really good either, it was just OK for superheromovie standards.&£#*%@...
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posted May 09, 2016 11:56 AM

juc said:
...and then the joker says we must stop batman, blah blah blah, boring.


dark knight was the best representation of mr. j yet(and most likely will always be). if you have such an issue with good vs evil, then why watch superhero movies at all? that's what 99% of them are about, anyway. it sounds like you put yourself through unnecessary irritations just so you can complain about them. i'll bet you'll stub your toe on purpose just so you can complain about it to anyone who will listen.

but don't worry, this is hc, we're here to help mold you into a better version of yourself.

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posted May 09, 2016 12:01 PM

fred79 said:
dark knight was the best representation of mr. j yet(and most likely will always be).

You're talking about Ledger in Nolan's movie right? Disagree, too much on psychopath side, not enough on the actual joker one. Did you notice he barely laughs in that movie? I rank him behind Hamill and Nicholson.
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posted May 09, 2016 12:14 PM

laughing all the time would have been annoying(not to mention, get old fast), and would detract from the role of a more real-life joker. besides, it's a movie, not a cartoon(hamill's joker is great too, don't get me wrong. but his joker is more for kids). and nicholson(burton's version) was good, but he was nothing compared to ledger's(nolan's) version. i prefer a more realistic take on the joker. burton's joker was too goofy for me. you couldn't take him seriously(burton's target audience was, after all, kids). a campy joker is almost an insult to the character. leto's version will more than likely come in last, in quality.

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posted May 09, 2016 12:21 PM
Edited by Galaad at 12:48, 09 May 2016.

All I'm saying is Ledger was too one-sided focused on the psychology, the character is more complex, Nicholson had a better balance IMO. And of course the animated series counts!
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posted May 09, 2016 02:54 PM

Nicholson was the best one, ledger was really bad to me. its not necessarily about good and evil, its about the supernatural powers, the poorly designed characters and the massive quantity of the same kind of movies. Watchmen differed from the others I've seen because it had more intriguing characters to me (e. G. The guy with the mask) and more depth with human relations and politics etc. Batman is all about being emo and beating up people on the street with the occasional cheesy one liner to me. If I had a list of the worst high budget movies of all time, nearly all would be superhero movies with batman vs superman reaching very high on that list.

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posted May 09, 2016 02:54 PM

Much as I loved Heath Ledger, Mark Hamill is the best He sounds so wonderfully deranged and his voice acting can be compared to a symphony ^^ Everything perfectly calculated for dramatic effect.
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posted May 09, 2016 03:23 PM

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Antalyan said:
Yesterday I saw the Civil War and I was very disappointed.

There are only two films I like less out of Marvel films: Hulk & Iron Man 2.

Yes, there were many characters I like. Yes, there was a dramatic conflict inside Avenegers. Yes, there was a lot of action. Yes, it was funny.

But everything took so long! Stark behaved strange (he was the first one I would expect to be against being controlled by government).

At the end of the film, nothing changed, nothing has been solved, so I felt like nothing happened after the first 30 minutes. Situation remained the same. And there was no villain, only former friends arguing with each other.

You got it all wrong, mate.

Stark being in favour of involving the goverment with the Avengers makes sense. This is not the same cocky, don't give a **** Tony we saw in the first two Iron-Man movies and The Avengers. This is a Tony that had to deal with the NY incident and Ultron, that has marriage issues and sees that his actions have had bad consecuences all the time, not matter how well his intentions were. The movie does a pretty good job at explaining this to the spectator.

A lot has changed by the end of the movie, just think about this: Which were the (Active) Avengers at the start of the movie, and which are at the end of it? The villian (because yes, there is one!) managed to deal more damage to the Avengers than Thanos-helped Loki and Ultron did together.
In fact, the villian not being the generic Marvel 'Evil-guy-that-wants-to-conquer-the-world', but rather focusing on pitting the superherous against each other (with reasons explained in the movie) was a very nice change of pace. Zemo manages to stand out within the other Marvel villians.

Honestly, it's possible to nitpick and find small issues within the film, but overall the way the conflict scales and takes form feels very natural with what the previous twelve MCU films have built up before.


Ok I admire Stark's behaviour was much more logical than in previous films, I have got used to the fact he never learns so it surprised me he did not behave as an idiot at least in one film

About the villain: Yes, I know there is one but I am dissapointed that there was no big battle with him as usually. Instead, they were fighting each other. I cannot understand why they could not sit together and explain each other their opinions (yes, this does not always work, but what happened afterwards was one big tragicomedy). The airport battle? It was a very funny scene with totally no sense, there was a fight which was actually not a fight, friends which acted like they were not friends... Probably it is just me as my friends also liked this film a lot but I really do not like this kind of films I prefer classical fantasy topics when good fight against evil. A bit childish? Maybe. But it is nice to see that at least in films the good win.
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posted May 09, 2016 06:12 PM

fred79 said:
laughing all the time would have been annoying(not to mention, get old fast), and would detract from the role of a more real-life joker. besides, it's a movie, not a cartoon(hamill's joker is great too, don't get me wrong. but his joker is more for kids). and nicholson(burton's version) was good, but he was nothing compared to ledger's(nolan's) version. i prefer a more realistic take on the joker. burton's joker was too goofy for me. you couldn't take him seriously(burton's target audience was, after all, kids). a campy joker is almost an insult to the character. leto's version will more than likely come in last, in quality.

If Hamill's Joker was "just for kids," then he wouldn't fit in so greatly to Arkham games, which aren't definitely suited for children. Besodes  I wouldn't discount Leto's performance yet. He's an Oscar winner, after all and based of the reports from the set (him staying in character even during the breaks; sending special "gifts" to his co-stars, like used condoms and rats; the whole crew stopping their work when Leto was acting) we are going to have a good performance at least.

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posted May 09, 2016 10:31 PM

Next X-men movie to take part in the 90s...I say it's time we talk about the elephant in the room: the lack of continuity is killing the X-men franchise.
X-men 1-3 were all connected, a direct sequel of the previous one. Days of the Future Past too...but the movies featuring the new batch of actors are so separated that you can't make any attachment to any of them. Let's not even mention how silly is to see the same actors not age over a 30+ year period between First Class and the upcoming one!

Marvel should get their hands on them and make a crossover with the MCU, damn it!

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Storm-Giant said:
Agreed, Marvel truly nailed him in this film. Despite the horror of The Amazing Spider, I'm actually pumped for next year film. Same for Black Panther

Thinking about the end-consecuences of Civil War, I do have to concede a point: Marvel ultimately played safe with the final Tony Stark scene: Disney-Marvel won't make that last step. We could have lived without it.
Still, it's an excellent setup for the next batch of movies in the MCU, shifting away from the tone we have had since the Avengers 1.


What do you mean?  Because it showed a kind of truce between the two sides?

Kind of. The thing with that scene is that it diminish the strain on their relationship...I'd rather have them go different ways and potentially get together again at a (very) later time through some event (Infinty War?).

@Antalyan: Not having a big battle at the end is what makes this film so special and unique compared with the rest of the Marvel movies. As for the airport fight, I felt the tone was natural - most of them weren't out for blood, really...which makes sense if we take into account what they have been through in previous movies
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posted May 09, 2016 11:17 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 23:22, 09 May 2016.

The airport battle was a feel-good scene where each character showed their unique strengths.

**** the idea of a big battle at the end. That is unbearably staple to movies in the past decade. The battle in New York with the 1st Avengers was fun, since it was the 1st time the Avengers all came together, but it's also what made Age of Ultron a ****ier movie. I was so bored after like 25-30 minutes of the heroes shooting down worthless drones. The ratings agree with me because it didn't get as high marks. It just felt like Avengers 2.0, but with enemies less entertaining than giant armored flying earthworms.

The way the 1st Avenger's kickstarted the final battle with the Hulk punching the goliath worm head-on. Such a good intro. So classy. So bold. So sexy.
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posted May 09, 2016 11:45 PM

Agreed on everything ^^

Civil War airport's scene is easily the most nerdgasmic battle of any comic book movie, period. It features a lot of superheroes without feeling overcrowed, there are many awe-inspiring moments from several characters, and overall it had a great execution
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posted May 10, 2016 12:30 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 03:53, 10 May 2016.

Definitely psyched for Ragnorak after seeing how good Civil War was.  It's another semi Avengers movie since it has Hulk and Guardians in it. I wasn't very happy with Dark World either so hopefully the 3rd Thor will deliver.
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posted May 10, 2016 01:46 PM

I've decided to finally watch all worthwhile films in myfamily's DVD collection. After phenomenal "Thelma & Louise" I got to see "Some like it hot" with Marylin Monroe, Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon in main roles. A fun, witty comedy. Definitely recommended.

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posted May 11, 2016 12:53 AM

Are any avengers' movies even worth watching? Feels like X-men money cow edition to me. And x-men movied are generally really awful according to me. Didn't even like the highly appreciated ones. What should I pay attention to to like these seemingly horrible movies?

Well whatever. Ranting over. What non-superhero movie can you guys recommend, that the average Joe like me haven't seen? I've been on a movie streak lately, watching a huge lot of movies and have been liking a lot of them. I can really watch any movie that isn't extremely cheesy, unoriginal/cliche or uninteresting. Any recommendations for me?

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posted May 11, 2016 12:57 AM

@juc, have you been through Stanley Kubrick's collection? They're all brilliant and memorable except for the last one possibly - Eyes Wide Shut.

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posted May 11, 2016 01:02 AM

friendofgunnar said:
@juc, have you been through Stanley Kubrick's collection? They're all brilliant and memorable except for the last one possibly - Eyes Wide Shut.


Yeah, some of them. I've seen the shining, full metal jacket, spartacus, dr. Strangelove and 2001. Which one would you recommend me to watch? Any of them except that last one?

I really liked the vibes that the shining gave me. Watched it for the first time pretty recently. Amazing how that movie is so much more frightening than some horror movies are today.

Didn't really get why full metal jacket is considered as such a good movie. I liked the first part, and then it became the average war movie.

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