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posted April 21, 2019 03:42 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 15:45, 21 Apr 2019.
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Watched Jurrasic Park Fallen Kingdom and I wonder how much of the series "spirit" is left. A movie about an island of Dinosaurs turns into a a cheap horror like movie with genetically enchanced Raptor stalking an irritating screamer kid who hides under a comforter waiting for it to "go away"... not to mention it follows a similar formula to Lost World.
The "save the environment" message is so incredibily in your face, and idiotic at the same time:
- "Free the dinos!".
- "It's also our fault they were created, and those are our 'responibility' now". "Yeah so like, free them!".
(*my personal thought: "umm but those are some 12-meter long killer machines...")
- "Yeah free them, nature always finds a way!".
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posted April 21, 2019 04:01 PM |
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Every temperate forested area in the world used to be heavily populated with wolves. If people won't even bring wolves back I somehow doubt they want to bring back a T-Rex.
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posted April 21, 2019 04:44 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 16:45, 21 Apr 2019.
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Blizzardboy said:
Every temperate forested area in the world used to be heavily populated with wolves. If people won't even bring wolves back I somehow doubt they want to bring back a T-Rex.
Well the movie premise is kinda logical: we re-created the Dinos, now we gotta take responisbility. That is the "what if" scenario that can be traced back to the human history of introducing foreign animals to a habitat which balance was shaken in the process. And there is ofc the matter of using the Dinos as bio-weapons. All of this is speculation.
But omo it's executed poorly in the movie.
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posted April 21, 2019 11:39 PM |
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After the second jurassic park(which I have largely forgotten tbh), the series has been a joke.
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posted April 22, 2019 02:20 AM |
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Elvin said:
Watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and it was great. I loved the conflict of ideals and Nicholson is simply magnetic in his role. His energy and enthusiasm is infectious.
They don’t make them like they used to.
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And what genre are we actually talking about? Action? Horror? Or Gothic Horror
It is certainly an action movie with Gothic horror themes as decor. It’s about fast paced battle scenes, not suspense. Horror is when you wait for things to happen, not when Dread Sisters dive in from the sky and Van Helsing goes Space Invaders on them.
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posted April 22, 2019 08:12 AM |
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Horror is when you wait for things to happen, not when Dread Sisters dive in from the sky and Van Helsing goes Space Invaders on them.
Artu made a funny. 
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posted April 22, 2019 09:48 AM |
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Was watching for a second time Prometheus and, man, both Prometheus and Jurassic park have amazing sound tracks, at least something was great about.
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posted April 22, 2019 10:47 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:47, 22 Apr 2019.
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artu said:
blob2 said:
And what genre are we actually talking about? Action? Horror? Or Gothic Horror
It is certainly an action movie with Gothic horror themes as decor. It’s about fast paced battle scenes, not suspense. Horror is when you wait for things to happen, not when Dread Sisters dive in from the sky and Van Helsing goes Space Invaders on them.
Yeah that's why I'm wondering what genre it actually is. It's an action movie for sure, but the setting is Gothic Horror (Monsters straight from 19th century books).
The movie comes from a director who made another popular remake - "The Mummy" (1999) which is a direct homage to 1930s adventure movies... so you can trace some horror inspirations in them.
I dislike how many people treat these movies: they are meant to be fun spoofs of movies of old, yet critics are all about "bad CGI" and rolling their eyes.
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posted April 22, 2019 11:01 AM |
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Has anybody seen the most recent Alien movie?
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posted April 22, 2019 02:17 PM |
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Edited by Kipshasz at 14:19, 22 Apr 2019.
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Deadpool 2
well, to quote Alexander Anderson of Hellsing Abridged - Second Verse same as the first.
It's entertaining, it's over the top it's deadpool. and Deadpool being Deadpool, you even fine all those SJW talk points as entertaining rather than annoying.
They did missed an opportunity to be less racist and make NTW's lesbian lover a bloated black girl. who is also disabled. But then again the villain was an obese mexican boy, so the movie is also catering to Trumptards, which is nice. we all love to shoot hispanics on sight while chanting "build the wall".
overall, a fun little time waster.
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posted April 23, 2019 08:26 AM |
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I thought the boy was from New Zealand. They even say so in the movie.
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posted April 23, 2019 08:29 AM |
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Blizzardboy said:
Has anybody seen the most recent Alien movie?
Alien Covenant, yeah. The movie is about the Android once again though, not about Aliens. I liked it better than Prometheus, yet that might not be saying much.
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posted April 23, 2019 08:31 AM |
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I just saw it lol.
It was okay. The Alien movies have become pretty formulaic.
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posted April 23, 2019 09:23 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:26, 23 Apr 2019.
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I actually thought you meant this. Or this.
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posted April 23, 2019 10:17 AM |
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Alien Covenant, yeah. The movie is about the Android once again though, not about Aliens. I liked it better than Prometheus, yet that might not be saying much.
Both movies excelled in stupid decisions and behaviour in a hostile environment, though. At times it felt as if though the people involved were hell-bent on getting themselves killed instead of trying to survive.
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posted April 23, 2019 11:01 AM |
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It's a tradition in horror movies (Alien is a semi-horror franchise) for characters to be so moronic it takes a lot of willpower not to cheer whenever they die.
Plus, in fairness, I think a lot of people overestimate how rational they would be if a flesh-eating super alien with acid blood was coming after them so it could plant a baby inside their chest cavity. Sometimes the panic and hysteria is believable, but other times the characters are just stupid for no particular reason.
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posted April 23, 2019 12:22 PM |
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Plot convenience and/or fan service over character behaviour.. 
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posted April 23, 2019 05:07 PM |
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Maurice said:
Both movies excelled in stupid decisions and behaviour in a hostile environment, though. At times it felt as if though the people involved were hell-bent on getting themselves killed instead of trying to survive.
I lol'ed so hard in the theater when one of the characters in the expeditionary group ordered the group to split up. I think this was even after they had that encounter with the alien during the night time.
Another wtf moment came when the two characters started having sex in the shower mere hours after several of their comrades got killed.
I'm trying to think, were movies always this stupid?
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posted April 23, 2019 05:27 PM |
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I'm going to pick up a topic that was discussed earlier, which is changing the sex, gender, etc... of established characters.
There's an interesting youtuber who made a video on the topic. He's a self-described libertarian who's frequently antagonistic to SJWs. It's especially interesting because he's a black dude.
Here's why the topic interests me. I would assume that being hostile to changing the sex, gender, orientation, etc... of established characters would be a hallmark of SJWs. Basically you're following in the footsteps of white, cis, men while denying yourself the opportunity to create your own identity.
The opposite seems to be the case though, which is that it is the SJWs that are frequently promoting this trend (for example the Marvel character reboots I mentioned earlier).
Some examples:
Ice Man in the comics was clear hetero for a long time and then they made him gay.
Hulk was rebooted as a sentient, chinese, supergenious.
People clamoring for a female James Bond.
There's even been some buzz about turning Thor into a chick in the MCU (actually, rumors are swirling about Taika Waititi doing a movie on this and I'd trust him to play it for laughs like it ought to be).
I doubt there's any true SJWs on this forum but I'm interested if anybody will step forward and defend this particular artistic trend.
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posted April 23, 2019 06:03 PM |
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Because SJW want to hit where it hurts: by reworking beloved, established characters. You know, fanboy tears and such. Somewhere between the lines there might be some higher purpose, but SJW are all about being "in-your-face!"...
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