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posted October 24, 2011 10:27 PM |
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How on earth did I miss the Tangled debate on the previous page? -__-
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blizzardboy
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posted October 24, 2011 11:28 PM |
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By 'Tangled debate' I'm assuming you're going to be agreeing that it was an intensely badass movie? Remember young sapling, there are consequences to one's actions.
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posted October 25, 2011 08:52 PM |
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I've just finished watching Red Riding Hood.
Hmm well, parts of it were okay. The main leads were wooden and quite honestly I couldn't cared less if the lived or died.
Liked the sets and scenery. Yeah liked that bit.
Oh and there was a werewolf in it, but not enough.
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xerox
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posted October 29, 2011 12:42 AM |
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I finally saw Thor and hated it. 2/5
YES, the japanese ninja-viking did annoy me. A lot. I don't want european samurais in movies based on japanese mythology.
But what I really hated was:
1. Very predictable story except for a little twist at the end.
2. The part that was on Earth felt completly unnescessary. It was also filled with clichés and forced relationship. It all just made the movie feel REALLY rushed.
3. Clichés.
4. Forced relationship.
5. Boring villians. seriously, frost giants? Helllooooo where are the sci-fi fire giants, dark elves/dwarves, light elves, VALKYRIES etc.
6. Clichés.
The movie should not have been related to Earth at all. It should have been about Asgard being at war with the other realms such as Muspelheim (fire giants) and Helheim (undead).
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Vindicator
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posted October 29, 2011 12:48 AM |
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dark elves
And that's not boring?
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blizzardboy
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posted October 29, 2011 12:49 AM |
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The realms aren't suppose to be an exact replica of Norse mythology. In the Marvel universe, the Asgardians show up in the ancient past and they become worshiped by the vikings, but the folklore passed down (i.e. Norse mythology) isn't entirely accurate to the truth, hence in actuality you also have the Xena chick and the African gatekeeper, etc. 
And yeah, Earth is relevant because that's where Thor ends up fighting in the Avengers movie and he meets up with Shield.
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xerox
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posted October 29, 2011 01:04 AM |
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the original dark elves were very different from the modern Warhammer ones, they were more like the dark iron dwarves in warcraft
also I don't care about the Marvel universe
the movie was BAD
I can't see how people like it except "ommmg space thor is so coool" or "omg I love norse mythology" even though its basically a huge parody of it
Miss Xena aka Sif should be a pale woman with long white hair or something. Even WoWs take on Norse mythology with Loken, Thorim and Yogg-Saron was much better than the storyline in this movie.
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posted November 01, 2011 06:19 PM |
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Movie night
A friend of mine and myself always get together at least a couple of times a year to watch movies together.
And we always have a theme of sorts, regarding the movies we want the other to watch. This time round it was
1) Before 1980
2) Cool but underestimated movies ( mainly according to IMDB score )
We both have to come up with 3 movies and we both have a veto on one of the named. So total movies watched in one sitting is usually 4.
My veto was on Commando ( Arnold S )
His were on Videodrome ( James Woods )
So, we ended up watching
1) No Good Deed ( me )
2) Ricochet ( him )
3) The Big Feast ( me )
4) Extreme Measures ( him )
Turned out ( yet again to be a great night of movie watching and debating ) 
P.S. We couldn't keep no. 1 - but still...
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xerox
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posted November 01, 2011 09:23 PM |
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Tonight I saw Tintin 3D, dubbed in Swedish because my 8 year old sister and one of my mother's boyfriend's less-than-average-intelligent 15 year old son were with me.
Tintin is the most shallow and boring character ever. The swedish dub didn't help either. I hate dubbing, can't stand it and I don't understand why civilized countries such as Germany and the US dub everything.
The story was pretty predictable and forgettable. Captain Haddock and the antagonist were the most interesting characters because they are the ones that make the actual story. But then, Tintin is a kid's movie (but adults won't get super bored) and most of the audience were 6-12 year old kids with their parents.
There were a lot of great action in it but the real brilliant thing in the movie is the art.
THE ART IS AMAZING.
The whole movie looks like an incredibly detailed, breathing painting! The visuals are a masterpiece and is what makes it worth to watch this movie in 3D, in your local cinema.
Overall, I would give Tintin 3 / 5 - keeping in mind that it is largely a kid's movie. 90% of that score consists of the beautiful state of the art visuals.
Can't wait for them to make a movie about Tintin in Congo!
I actually own that book and it sits on my shelf. But yeah, there's going to be a sequel (if it is a success, and it will be)
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posted November 01, 2011 09:27 PM |
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keeping in mind that it is largely a kid's movie.
Some of the greatest films ever made were kid's films.
Also, that's a rather insensitive comment about Congo.
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xerox
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posted November 01, 2011 09:31 PM |
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I meant that if I had judged in the same way that I judge more mature movies, then the score would have been lower. I don't judge a kid's movie in the same way as I judge a movie like Inception.
I don't understand what was insensitive about me being interested in how they would handle a Tintin in Congo movie.
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DagothGares
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posted November 01, 2011 09:37 PM |
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Belgium has a history with Congo, so does Tintin, but maybe I'm projecting some sort of guilt or something. Is there like a great adventure Tintin has in Congo that doesn't involve educating the savages?
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I meant that if I had judged in the same way that I judge more mature movies, then the score would have been lower. I don't judge a kid's movie in the same way as I judge a movie like Inception.
Why not? You mean to say that it's okay to be crud, just because it's for kids?
Kids movies can be just as great as Inception. Just look at Wall-E, Up, Toy Story or the Lion King.
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xerox
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posted November 01, 2011 09:53 PM |
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I think Toy Story 3 is very overrated. I did like Wall-E though.
Usually, kid's movies lack the depth that some of the more mature movies have and because of that, I think it is unfair to compare let's say Barbie's Wonderful Search for Printers in Xeroxia 3 to Shutter Island.
I could easily give a kid's movie like The Beauty and the Beast 5/5 (in that case I wouldn't, because the ending of it makes no sense)
Also I know that some congonian guy tried to ban Tintin in Congo for racism in Belgium, but it was found to not be racist since the author did not intend it to be racist. The african people are not portrayed in a negative way in it. Also the villians in it are white people.
In Sweden, this candy was accused of being racist so now they are going to remove that little cute Chinese face from it.
compare that to this extremly popular brand of caviar here
Apparently, the image of a stereotypical blond swedish boy isnt't racist, but that chinese face is.
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DagothGares
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posted November 01, 2011 10:02 PM |
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Blackface is pretty racist and no big budget movie ever (unless they're ham-fisted messages, like "blood diamond") will tackle Congo ever (maybe in a few centuries when it will be regarded as our middle ages or something). It goes beyond the depiction of blackface. The whole problem of the matter is that the whole "colonialism" thing in Congo was one of the most terrible examples of it. Congo was the private estate of the king and he is famous for having chopped off the hands of the people of Congo, when quota's weren't fulfilled.
The depiction of black people as monkeys (You can't seriously tell me with a straight face that the black people in that picture are depicted in a very human way. It's rather subhuman.) reminds of that period and of the view the people held that we we were bringing civilisation to these people, rather than brutally maiming and enslaving them.
If you think that isn't racist, then that's your business, then, but Belgium and Congo is a pretty sensitive issue and it's hard to separate Tintin from that.
Though, again I may be projecting too much, here, is there an epic arc in Congo or did you just think it was funny to say that, because I would get butthurt over it, xerox?
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Vlaad
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posted November 01, 2011 10:16 PM |
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EDIT: Dagoth was faster.
There are two version; the second is less racist, but... yeah.
Other artists such as Robert Crumb have also used Blackface imagery, but it was satire.
Tintin in America is also ridiculous, with gangsters and Indians running all over the place.
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DagothGares
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posted November 01, 2011 10:18 PM |
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As a Belgian man I can't help but wonder:
This is world-famous why?
EDIT: was talking about Tintin, not this racism issue thing.
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Vlaad
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posted November 01, 2011 10:23 PM |
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Tintin or the controversy? Tintin is a great book, especially later on. Personally I'm fond of it because it started the ligne claire style. As for the latter, I don't think it's world famous... It might be more of a big deal nowadays, with heightened sensitivity and political correctness.
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xerox
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posted November 01, 2011 10:39 PM |
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No, I do not think that it is racist since it does not portray native africans in an overly negative light.
You have to remember that at the time that it was written, a lot of people pretty much considered black people to be some kind of monkey species.
It would be different if it portrayed African slaves being tortured by their white slavemasters while at the same time being forced to harvest bananas or something like that.
But since the intention of the book wasn't to discriminate africans, it isn't racist.
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Fauch
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posted November 01, 2011 10:42 PM |
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if there is a sequel, shouldn't it be red rackham's treasure? unless it was already covered in the movie, but with money involved, I seriously doubt it.
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xerox
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posted November 01, 2011 10:45 PM |
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if you watch the movie, then it gets kinda obvious towards the end that that is going to be the sequel
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