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posted December 22, 2012 11:34 PM |
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posted December 22, 2012 11:34 PM |
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The extended version is so much worth it 
Very much agreed, far superior to the theaterical version. I just received the Blu-ray versions as a gift. Very excited to watch the extended editions in 1080p surround sound.
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posted December 22, 2012 11:38 PM |
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I found the extended edition of Fellowship to be worse than the theatricial. It didn't add a lot and made the pacing worse.
Haven't seen the other ones yet.
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posted December 23, 2012 12:13 AM |
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The extended version is for die hard fans Pretty sure some have even marathoned it but I never had the stomach for that. With all the content from the books it would have made an amazing high budget series but securing said budget is another tale.
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posted December 23, 2012 12:23 AM |
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but the extended edition of Fellowship didn't add a lot of new important stuff from the book
it was basically
- Lots of pointless stuff in The Shire.
- They showed the petrified Trolls (which was funny, because obviously they look different than in the Hobbit)
- They walked through a swamp.
- Talked a bit about mithril in Moria.
- Extended battle scene with the Cave troll.
- You got to see Lothlorien from outside (was pretty cool)
- Galadriel had a totally wasted line of dialogue where she mentions she to has a ring of power. I said wasted because before that line, she said something like "To be a ring-bearer, is to be alone". That could tie into her being a kind of ringbearer aswell.
- Galadriel gave them gifts (okay I liked that, except that Boromir didn't get one)
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posted December 24, 2012 09:30 PM |
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I just watched the Hobbit, and I was sorely disappointed, I felt that Thorin was the only one really holding the film up, he had a great voice and sublime acting, (though even some of his lines were messed up)
Bilbo was atrociously bad, back in hobbiton his bloody body language was so ****ing patronizing, made me feel like I'm watching teletubbies:
"Where have the dwarves gone Bilbo?"
Bilbo shakes his head and pulls his shoulders up.
But I could've let that pass if only they didn't put so many pointless action scenes in (action very ****ing loosely used) as if they were making a modern low-budget action-flick rather than art.
The book puts significant emphasis on provisions and the fact that they're having an adventure, conquering nature and amazing sights. Yeah, utterly ****ed that up. 
I really would've really have preferred this to be a fellowship of the ring sort of movie. Emphasis on adventure, and utterly stunning sights. The orcs were no longer real, just computer animated crap, LOTR wasn't loyal to the book, and I wouldn't have minded if the Hobbit diverted, but LOTR did it for the better, took on a life of its own, the Hobbit was frankly really cheesy, especially when they made direct quotes from the book.
The only thing with the movie that I found to be irrefutably good is the songs, every time I've read the hobbit I could never put a good tune to it, thanks to the movie I can enjoy the book even more I guess.
Overall a great modern movie, just not quite my cup of tea, and I expected more from Peter Jackson. FYI I utterly wub Thorin's voice.
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posted December 26, 2012 02:24 AM |
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Well, as a more "modern" person, I loved the movie. The special effects were awesome, the characters were great (though some; Bilbo and Gandalf mainly were iffy in the beginning but I warmed up to them), the action scenes were excellent, the plot was awesome without deviating from the book too much but still making its own little changes. I expect we'll see more of the provisions thing in Mirkwood, Tsar.
The storm giants were so cool, and the Goblin King was great as well, and the new Gollum, who I thought would just be the annoying creature from the original movies, was awesome as well! I just can't wait when they finally show Smaug... 
And the Kingdom under the Mountain was absolutely jawdropping. Brilliant work on it!
I had only two little complaints, and they still hardly ruined the movie; the special effects when Elron read the runes on the map felt overdone, and how Thorin didn't age at all from the past to the present.
Overall, this was probably my favorite movie of all time! Recommend seeing it for anyone who hasn't yet, simply incredible.
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posted December 29, 2012 08:35 AM |
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On my way to finish The Wire season 4 !
Man that is one heck'uva series
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posted December 29, 2012 05:06 PM |
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I saw the Hobbit as well. On the whole I found it enjoyable. I didn't find it overly long - it didn't drag for me and I was entertained throughout. The visuals were gorgeous as expected and the acting, set pieces, musical score and etc were all top notch.
That said, I had two problems with the film. The first is that while the screenplay for the most part followed the book, it didn't really capture the mood or theme of the book very well at all. This whole film was framed as a prequel or set-up to Lord of the Rings. Lots of harbingers, portends, and conversation about how "evil is on the horizon". Granted, it's been a long time (almost 20 years!) since I read the Hobbit, but I don't remember there being so much foreshadowing of LotR events. Maybe they are there, but I don't recall it being the focus of the book. I guess what I'm getting at as the Hobbit stood alone as a novel - I'm not sure it does so in this theatrical take on it. People with no familiarity with the LotR would be hard-pressed to understand how 90% of the stuff that happens in this film is relevant to anything. I certainly wouldn't recommend watching this movie BEFORE the LotR movies.
The second (going along with the first) is that the movie doesn't have much of a unifying plot. It's a whole lot of running from here to there, random encounters, and so forth, but there's not so much meat holding it together. That of course was sort of the point of the book, but as I said this film is presented as a prelude to LotR, not a stand alone adventure, that's what causes the problem. On the whole this movie almost seems like just a lot of exposition to the movies that follow. In that sense it almost feels unnecessary. This is exacerbated by the fact that there was a lot of "I've seen this all before" feeling - this movie had a lot of retreading of Fellowship of the Rings.
Overall a great effort and I look forward to the next one. Maybe some of the issues I have will change when part 2 and 3 are released. Guess we'll just have to see.
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posted December 29, 2012 06:42 PM |
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It does get that feeling but that's only because it touches the Necromancer storyline that the novel avoided walking us through. But it is part of the story just the same and I do not think that it would be any rosier if it had been in the novel. The film does not focus on Bilbo so our perception of events is greatly altered.
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posted December 30, 2012 10:10 PM |
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I liked the Hobbit movie quite a lot.
Yes, maybe it didn't bring all that feel of an adventure, but since they left Hobbiton it's action NON-STOP (with the exception of Rivendel) and time flew, I really loved that.
For the new additions I have mixed feelings. Yes, Azog should be dead by that year (killed by Dain in the books), but giving him the role of an ancient enemy of thorin, the persecution through all the film until the final fight...was great in my opinion. Others like all the dwarves attacking at the same time to the trolls were cool.
On the other hand, the addition of Radagast was excesive. It felt strange...and left unexplained how Gandalf received the key from Thrain. And he travelled damn quick from the black forest to almost rivendel
The inclusion of Smaug Erebor invasion & Moria battle were simply excellent. And I liked the White Council addition, the movies are not only for the book but also for the whole story.
The bad news....1 year for second part 
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posted December 30, 2012 11:19 PM |
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Don't you just hate it when trailers show the entire film...Then again, if the film can be summed up in a minute and a half, then it's likely not worth watching.
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posted December 30, 2012 11:41 PM |
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Don't you just hate it when movies show the entire film...Then again, if the film can be summed up in a minute and a half, then it's likely not worth watching.
Huh? When movies show the entire film?
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Isn't that... what they're supposed to do?
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posted December 31, 2012 12:39 AM |
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LOL! Yeah, my bad.
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posted December 31, 2012 12:47 AM |
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In regards to the hobbit.
What strikes me as odd is that they age flipped Thorin and Balin.
Balin is supposed to be way younger than Thorin, and have sharp senses to where he notices everything before the rest of the group. He doesn't look like he'd survive age-wise to be killed off screen before the Fellowship.
Regardless, the movie itself is great if you air it with the previous LoTR movies and artistic liberties were very much expected to be taken.
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posted December 31, 2012 01:00 AM |
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The trailer didn't show Azog 
Regarding Thorin & Balin ages, I agree, it looks weird. Thorin had almost 200 years and considering that dwarves lifetime is estimated around 250, he looks way younger than he should.
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posted December 31, 2012 01:07 AM |
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They wanted to make Thorin look sexy since he was a main character and they already have Gandalf as another main character, who is very old. That's also why they dumped Galadriel in the movie. J.R.R. Tolkien's book, "The Hobbit" is one of the biggest sausage-fests in literature. It has zero female characters, and the vast majority of the male characters are short, chubby, have large beards, and walk around with axes.
High-budget movies can't survive off an audience full of nerdgasming males as well as the occasional wife or girlfriend that goes along in a symbolic expression of a raised olive branch.
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posted December 31, 2012 01:55 AM |
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Killing them softly:
Subtext is not so sub
But so have to be.
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posted December 31, 2012 03:15 AM |
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They wanted to make Thorin look sexy since he was a main character and they already have Gandalf as another main character, who is very old. That's also why they dumped Galadriel in the movie. J.R.R. Tolkien's book, "The Hobbit" is one of the biggest sausage-fests in literature. It has zero female characters, and the vast majority of the male characters are short, chubby, have large beards, and walk around with axes.
High-budget movies can't survive off an audience full of nerdgasming males as well as the occasional wife or girlfriend that goes along in a symbolic expression of a raised olive branch.
Cue Evangeline Lilly!
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posted December 31, 2012 07:07 AM |
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