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posted December 06, 2013 12:56 AM |
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El laberinto del fauno / Pan's Labyrinth. 7 / 10
I've read a lot of excellent reviews about this film and after actually seeing it, I consider it overrated. It's the story of how a girl escapes WW2 in fascist Spain through her fantasy. Now the big question in the film is, is it really a fantasy? Or is it real? And I don't really think that's an interesting question because it feels irrelevant to the plot. I will praise Pan's Labyrinth for having great visuals, actors and nifty symbolism, but overall I didn't find the plot to be very compelling.
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Zenofex
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posted December 06, 2013 09:48 AM |
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The Pan's Labyrinth is one of the better movies out there. And no, it's not real and the sequence of events made this quite clear. What's wrong with the plot?
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Minion
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posted December 06, 2013 12:52 PM |
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Pan's Labyrinth is a fantastic piece of cinema (a word many movies don't even deserve) The harshness of reality blended in fantasy is made is such a way it leaves you mesmerized. 5 stars.
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artu
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posted December 06, 2013 01:08 PM |
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I'd give it 4 or 4.5 stars.
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posted December 06, 2013 01:36 PM |
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What is it with the scores? Are we IGN now? I'd just recommend it to people.
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posted December 06, 2013 03:04 PM |
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I really liked that movie.
Meanwhile I finally watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and damn that was some good trippy fun  Probably not everyone's thing but I enjoyed it for what it was.
The wolverine was.. somewhat disappointing. They got close to making it right but the director made some serious blunders. For instance.. sure it had some good action but for the most part it looked messy and not graphic enough. It's freaking wolverine, we want to see some clear lacerations dammit. Some dialogues worked, others were plain stupid. But a Jean Grey dream every time he lost consciousness? And all wolverine knows about the japanese sword is that it's held in two hands? Seriously guys. Finally, that ninja showdown. Why.
I liked how they made the character more human but some things just don't work.
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posted December 07, 2013 07:28 PM |
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The Amazing Spiderman 2
I'm still in chock over last summers monster of a re-make, I sure hope they get their act together this time !
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posted December 13, 2013 03:33 AM |
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Edited by artu at 05:57, 13 Dec 2013.
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I've just seen Snatch again and I think the final fight scene with Oasis' Snowing in The Bushes in the background is probably the best boxing scene in cinema ever. Everything is so tuned and perfect, the editing, music, actors, the underwater metaphor...
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posted December 14, 2013 03:57 PM |
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I've watched the first half of Kurosawa's The Idiot (Dostoyevsky) but the 100 minutes thrown away by the studio just makes it impossible to follow the story. I'm sad to say this is for hardcore Kurosawa fans only. The merging of the two great minds could have been wonderful though, what a waste.
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posted December 14, 2013 04:09 PM |
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Yesterday watched The Hobbit : Desolation of Smaug. Heavy, opposed mixed feelings.
I never enjoyed more a film in the cinema. It was snowing epic, so action packed. It was awesome.
BUT WHY THE snow THEY HAD TO MAKE SO MANY, SO MANY CHANGES TO THE BOOK And some of them totally unnecessary urgh
Awesome fil, bad adaptation. If you are going to watch it, have an open mind or you'll be dissapointed, imo.
A positive point though, the dragon was SO GREATLY DONE. Huge, frightening, awesome-looking and filled with malice. And when he shooted fire, it was so well done 
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posted December 14, 2013 04:15 PM |
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Just as I expected Sounds like I will enjoy it, as for the changes.. we'll see.
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posted December 14, 2013 05:10 PM |
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Oh, you will most surely enjoy it, if you liked the first one. There were a damn lot of new stuff, but that doesn't mean they were bad (although some pretty unrealistic). Not at all, the whole movie as a whole seemed a lot more action-y than the first one, and I'm not complaining. I've learned already not to think about the book too much while watching these. Some stuff in a book simply doesn't work on screen, and many cases the other way around neither. About 3D, there actually were a couple nice scenes in this one (I fail to remember any in the first one?).
What I really loved about this one, are the scenes with Bombur, he was easily the most lovable character in this part, even with so little time on the screen.
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posted December 14, 2013 06:13 PM |
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gnollking said:
Oh, you will most surely enjoy it, if you liked the first one. There were a damn lot of new stuff, but that doesn't mean they were bad (although some pretty unrealistic). Not at all, the whole movie as a whole seemed a lot more action-y than the first one, and I'm not complaining. I've learned already not to think about the book too much while watching these. Some stuff in a book simply doesn't work on screen, and many cases the other way around neither. About 3D, there actually were a couple nice scenes in this one (I fail to remember any in the first one?).
What I really loved about this one, are the scenes with Bombur, he was easily the most lovable character in this part, even with so little time on the screen.
I agree, as I said I loved the film, it just I expect something different from a Hobbit adaptation.
Still, there were some nice touches here and there, like how Bilbo earns the alias of "underhill" 
Also @gnollking:
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One of the new stuff added into the film was the fight between dwarves and Smaug, but the part where they are distracting the dragon is so stupid, so unrealistic Bombur indeed was super funny, the barrel part was a bit over the top but still great hehehe
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posted December 14, 2013 06:18 PM |
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I first read the hobbit, after I had finished the lotr trilogy. I found it.. cute. Perhaps I had set my standards higher after reading lotr, perhaps I expected a different tone, perhaps I should have read it younger  When first I heard of the movie I knew that it would not be in the tone of lotr and I liked that, a story driven by exploration and wonder instead of epic fighting. And who knows, if they also covered the Sauron part and the secret war you never got to see in the book, that might actually be pretty interesting. Watching the movie, I found it loads of fun, visually breathtaking and mostly liked the new stuff, I found them in good taste. They even found a way to make the dwarven singing fun! It felt so embarrassing in the book haha Of course, I was surprised that the movie turned out so over the top but I could live with that. And if the second movie casts some light into the background events and characters, I'm quite open to that. I did not expect the exact same story as the book to begin with.
Which is actually quite in contrast with how I saw the two towers back when it came out. I was freaking annoyed with the changes they made, not because I hate changes but because they were goddamn worse than what happens in the book. Same goes for the return of the king. Some things were simply ridiculous and broke my immersion. As such, the fellowship remains my favourite movie of the trilogy and I am glad that the hobbit is proving similarly entertaining, despite its issues.
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posted December 14, 2013 06:29 PM |
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Elvin said:
I first read the hobbit, after I had finished the lotr trilogy. I found it.. cute. Perhaps I had set my standards higher after reading lotr, perhaps I expected a different tone, perhaps I should have read it younger When first I heard of the movie I knew that it would not be in the tone of lotr and I liked that, a story driven by exploration and wonder instead of epic fighting. And who knows, if they also covered the Sauron part and the secret war you never got to see in the book, that might actually be pretty interesting.
Well, the Hobbit was written before LotR, that's why 
Note that I LOVED they added the Dul Guldur part into the movie, without spoiling you I can guarantee it was awesome
Elvin said:
Which is actually quite in contrast with how I saw the two towers back when it came out. I was freaking annoyed with the changes they made, not because I hate changes but because they were goddamn worse than what happens in the book. Same goes for the return of the king. Some things were simply ridiculous and broke my immersion. As such, the fellowship remains my favourite movie of the trilogy and I am glad that the hobbit is proving similarly entertaining, despite its issues.
I also think the fellowship of the ring is the best of the LotR trilogy. The changes on LorT sometimes where plain stupid, like the Witch King vs Gandalf the White fight, where they make Gandalf look worse than the Grey who defeated a Balrog and resisted alone the attack of 4 Nazgul for 1 hour -.-
I think you'll enjoy DoS
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posted December 15, 2013 01:29 PM |
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Okay, so spoiler-free review of Desolation of Smaug. I thought the first Hobbit was quite poor (a 3/5). I think it's to slowly paced, the villains don't feel threatening at all and aesthetically, I think they use way to much CGI. Fortunately, Desolation of Smaug does better at most of these issues but it still doesn't compare to the LOTR films, which just had plain better source material.
The villains do feel more menancing. Sure, I just still don't care about a pack of CGI Orcs but Smaugh is pretty amazing and there's implications for the third film which are actually quite omnious. I was going to write that it's the source materials fault for making the villains not feel as threatening as they should, since like zero protagonists die in the book, but then I remebered that very few good characters died in LOTR too - and the Uruk'hai, and Nazgül and Orcs and all still felt very menancing to me.
So I think it might have something to do with the CGI. The costumes and make-up and prostethics were AMAZING in LOTR. In Hobbit, they use CGI orcs and the CGI does in my opinion look WORSE (in terms of it looking more unrealistic) than it did ten years ago. Maybe it was the high-frame rate but compare Hobbit wolves to the LOTR wargs and the wargs honestly look less overly CGI. Related to the high-frame rate though, I will say that the 3D is actually really good though sometimes it's a bit goofy as it occassionally feels like a character has been pasted onto the screen.
So Desolation does much better at pacing than Hobbit (there are lotss of great and creative action scenes) and the villains feel a bit more threatening, though still nowhere near the menance of LOTR antagonists. I have mixed feelings about the plot. I don't really agree with Thorin's character development, it's a bit of a rehash from the first film. There are elves<333 but there's a love triangle involved there which I didn't think add anything. Seriously, when there's ONE female character, can you use her for something else than primarily a love interest?
I love Gandalf's sub-story, I loved Mirkwood and the escape from it, I didn't really find Laketown to be that interesting (the mayor-guy there isn't a exactly very nuanced character and Bard looks to much like Orlando Bloom IRL) and there's a plot point there towards the end which makes ZERO sense. The end also heavily features Smaug and all those scenes are amazing though the very last scene disappointed me and adds to the plot's problem of feeling inconsistent. You can have a "bridge film" like Two Towers and still have a consistent plot with a begining and an ending. I don't really feel that Desolation did that. Now people might think this review is overly negative but that's because the Hobbit films are always so universally praised that I have to motivate the things I don't like about it. I do think people should give it a go at the cinema just to gaze at the glory of Elven King Thrandruil <333 and Smaug.
3.5 / 5 or 7 / 10
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posted December 15, 2013 02:10 PM |
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xerox said:
I do think people should give it a go at the cinema just to gaze at the glory of Elven King Thrandruil <333
Why I'm not surprised by this
But yeah, the plot is inconsistent in several parts of the movie, it's a shame because some of the inconsistencies could've been solved easily 
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posted December 15, 2013 02:31 PM |
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I saw it yesterday and I loved it, Legolas and Smaug were both pretty awesome, but there was one part I just didn't understand, namely
SPOILER
The whole dwarves vs Smaug scene, what exactly were they trying to do to him? Were they casting him in molten gold or something? Was that big dwarven statue already there and just covered in gold or... What happened in that scene?
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posted December 15, 2013 03:20 PM |
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Vindicator said:
SPOILER
The whole dwarves vs Smaug scene, what exactly were they trying to do to him? Were they casting him in molten gold or something? Was that big dwarven statue already there and just covered in gold or... What happened in that scene?
SPOILERS
Well, I think PJ just wanted to have a fight between the dwarves and Smaug. But it ended in a very stupid idea imo. The distraction tactics by the dwarves were....SO FREAKING STUPID It ruins Smaug character, until that moment he looked like an evil and intelligent dragon...
As for the big statue, I think they create that kind of gold and pour it into the statue recipent....something like that. I didn't enjoy that part a lot, it didn't fit. The golden effect on Smaug was cool though
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posted December 16, 2013 04:18 AM |
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Corribus said:
Zenofex said:
Watched "Gravity" yesterday. OK, it's a good movie, a few fine touches here and there but in all honesty, it's not THAT good. Somewhere around 7.5/10 or 8/10 at most. For some reason I just can't take Sandra Bullock seriously, she fails to do something right although I can't say what exactly, and that reduces the score. Also, the whole background behind the exploding satellites was fairly ridiculous.
I agree with this. It's worth seeing on the big screen because of the amazing space shots. Beyond that, it was fairly ho-hum.
A few of my friends told me similar stuff and I was expecting a lame story with beatiful visuals, yet maybe because of this low expectation I've found the movie decent. The only thing that really bothered me was towards the end, spoiler alert here, that's when Sandra Bullock failed but to be fair it was the script rather than her. Who on earth (or in space) talks Hollywoodish monologues about not giving up and how life is this or that under alarming danger and trying to configure foreign space shuttles? The stuff she kept telling herself after George Clooney's memory visited her, completely ruined the mood of the movie.
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