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posted June 26, 2009 05:49 PM |
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posted June 26, 2009 05:49 PM |
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I respect everyone's opinion, but posting "bad opinion" just to provoke quarrel will not be tolerated.
You know who you are....
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posted June 26, 2009 06:26 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 18:27, 26 Jun 2009.
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If you don't care then why bother making a response? Why bother reading the thread at that. Bloody hell.
well, i'm surprised that it affects so many people. for people who knew him, or were strongly influenced by him, ok, but the other ones? what he did isn't lost, we still have the memories. (and I like his music. I'm not a fan, but I like it)
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It's sad, I guess, but no more sad than when anybody else dies. They were interviewing some guy on TV this morning who was saying this is worse than the Kennedy assassination, and I was like "WTH?"
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Nobody bloody deserves to die.
sounds logical, and should be. but if we want to be extreme, did hitler deserve to die more than mickael jackson?
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Michael Jackson was an icon. Straight and simple. During the eighties he was bigger then life. Babies around the globe would learn to crawl, take a couple of steps, and moonwalk came next. He has heavily influenced fashion, music and dance of a whole generation worldwide.
But MJ is not only an icon of entertainment. He was also an iconic personality to illustrate the cruelty of entertainment industry and its fans. He has dwellt in ostracism and was outrageously ridicularized in the two last decades. Show-bizz magazines have dedicated pages and pages to point out how ugly he looked and have come up with the trademarked MJ-timeline, to further enjoy his physical-decadence along the decades. Popular appreciation would soon change to public evisceration.
Again, at age fifty, MJ dies of an iconic death. Premature, silent and sudden. A big wake up call echoes in peoples primitive minds. If that sort of treatment is what we give to those who we admire, what is reserved for our equals? For the mediocre?
Michael's death is not only a tragic loss. Its a slap in the face. No more money is going to be made out of his misery.
I don't believe in paradise or the like, so there is no RIP for me.
I'd just say:
Thanks for the lesson, Michael.
everyone spit on you, and when you die, they all say how great you were. well, it's not always the case, but...
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posted June 26, 2009 06:31 PM |
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interestingly enought, Farrah Fawcetts death was reported in the Metro (tacky british newspaper thats free on trains) but not Jacksons...
On the other hand, it probably went into print before Jacksons death was announced.
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posted June 26, 2009 07:06 PM |
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Now I'm waiting for future hearings that he is alive. Just like happens with Elvis and 2Pac.
Hey someone played Plants vs Zombies? There is Michael Jackson zombie thats using the moon walk and summoning dancers 
See video here (wait for the ad at the beginning and you'll see the video).
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posted June 26, 2009 07:13 PM |
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Talent is subjective.
Are you actually being serious? Real talent isn't subjective.
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posted June 26, 2009 07:17 PM |
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Michael Jackson did a ton of songs that I never realized were Michael Jackson until about a year ago when my aunt pointed out that they were Michael Jackson, and it surprised me. I'm not very savvy in the music industry so I don't really pay much attention to the artist or song names. For those of you younger people that only ever heard of Jackson's newer and weaker songs, he did do a bunch of songs that you still hear on the radio a bunch that you probably don't even realize are Michael Jackson.
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posted June 26, 2009 07:27 PM |
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I don't like his music.
Then just say so
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posted June 26, 2009 07:36 PM |
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Oh, and if nothing else, Michael is now one of the greatest gifs of all time:
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posted June 26, 2009 08:11 PM |
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Edited by Totoro at 20:18, 26 Jun 2009.
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but if we want to be extreme, did hitler deserve to die more than mickael jackson
It's silly when people seriously think that they are qualified enough to judge what someone deserves and don't understand that it is just their opinion based on their morals, especially silly when things in question are something they don't know rat's ass about, like death.
I can't believe how some people don't mind about the death of M. Jackson. He was a large symbol of western culture and civilization. When it comes to culture, I think his death is as big loss as, for example, a destruction of Eiffel Tower would be.
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posted June 26, 2009 09:15 PM |
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as pam saids... what we do know for fact that he was maybe the greatest enterteiner of all time, he was an icon... his music and talent will be on our culture for many years to come... Im sure that there are millions of people in the planet that get influenced in a very positive way by michael jackson, and almost every person in the world who born between the 70's and the 90's have tried at least one time to do the moon walking... I remember having a dream where I was able to that magic step when he did on smooth criminal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07v6tB_OLR8
look at 2:44 I don't know how he did it... but I love that... dancing was like a magician...
I'm just saying before we can judge him for something that we don't kwno... we must see what he did for the world in so many levels... I will remember him forever... and I'm sure in 50 years the people will talk about him just like we talk about elvis right now...
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posted June 26, 2009 09:46 PM |
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I was more annoyed when I found out I was out of eggs this morning.
Hopefully we are not all like you. Becoming desensitized and indifferent to art is a recent illness.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:01 PM |
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Hopefully we are not all like you. Becoming desensitized and indifferent to art is a recent illness.
I deleted my long post before I saw you quoted a piece of it since I didn't think it would be taken well. Sorry about that:
Art is not an inherently positive force for society. It depends on what it is. And I venture a guess that it's more mentally crippling these days than it is empowering. So if I'm indifferent to a lot art these days, I consider that a strength. Although I think Michael Jackson was overall an empowering and inspiring force. But his peak was in the 70s and 80s. He wasn't producing anything revolutionary in recent years, so the art community hasn't been deprived of anything major.
And sometimes we tend to be too lofty towards artists. Sure, stuff can be inspiring, but most of the time, they're just entertainers. My point being, it stinks that he died, just like it stinks when anybody dies, but I don't really care on any significant level.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:35 PM |
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It's not that I dislike Michael Jackson's music (even though I do). It's that I'm extremely disappointed and surprised that so many people are calling his music a great cultural achievement.
There have been very few cultural achievements in the last 50 years - and his music is definitely not one of them.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:38 PM |
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Alright. I respect that and I disagree. His music, along with other music from such bands such as The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Jimi Hendrix etc have all been influential and have all made significant cultural achievements. The Beatles have sold over 1 billion records worldwide for god sake, Michael Jackson has sold over 750 million. That must count for something, surely? And those 750 million are him as a solo artist, don't forget that he was a part of the Jackson Five before he started his solo career and they too were very successful, obviously not as successful as Michael Jackson though.
And ditto what Lex said.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:45 PM |
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@Lexxan: I'd appreciate it if Totoro didn't consider Michael Jackson a greater cultural achievement than the Eiffel Tower, which represents the French Revolution and the rebirth of liberty. I find that pretty insulting and very degrading, but I acknowledge his opinion without asking him to be silent.
@Mvass: I agree with your general opinion, minus the "monkey" part since I think that's a bit extreme, although in fairness his earlier music was indeed revolutionary for the 70s, so expect that he will have a section dedicated to him in music textbooks.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:45 PM |
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It's that I'm extremely disappointed and surprised that so many people are calling his music a great cultural achievement.
What is a great cultural achievement? Can you define?
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I'd appreciate it if Totoro didn't consider Michael Jackson a greater cultural achievement than the Eiffel Tower, which represents the French Revolution and the rebirth of liberty. I find that pretty insulting and very degrading, but I acknowledge his opinion without asking him to be silent.
Michael Jackson was the king of pop around the world. Who cares about the French?
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posted June 26, 2009 10:47 PM |
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You have to at least be a normal person to get respect for the dead. And his sales? Popularity is not a mark of quality - rather, the reverse. Least common denominator, etc.
I guess his heart just couldn't beat it.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:50 PM |
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Mvass....if you go on like that I will give you a break...you can bet.
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posted June 26, 2009 10:56 PM |
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Little more than a monkey? What the...?
Wow...
This thread gets more sad as the day goes on.
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