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xerdux
xerdux


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posted July 05, 2009 01:48 AM

Please explain...

why Saddam Hussein was bad.

After reading an article on swedish aftonbladet.se, it was not explained WHY Saddam Hussein was evul.
Instead he seemed like a really nice guy from the article.

Please explain why Saddam was killed and what he did to become a bad guy. I was like 8 years old back then and didnt read the newspaper everyday like I do now.

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DagothGares
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posted July 05, 2009 01:51 AM

They killed him because he was a war criminal against america and America kills their war criminals...
I hated the fact he was hung, but if you want to hear anything sensible about the Iragi war, then asking on a forum isn't the ebst option...
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xerdux
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posted July 05, 2009 01:54 AM

That doesnt make any sense.
I dont see how that weak and underdeveloped country was any threat to the US.

Ok so I now know that he was only killed because they viewed him as a threat. Ok. But what did he do to become a threat?

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DagothGares
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posted July 05, 2009 01:56 AM

Oil

They said that hehad nuclear weapons and didn't want to show them, so they could invade the country, claim it's natural resources and impose their vlues on it.
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posted July 05, 2009 01:57 AM

He also gassed a bunch of his own people.
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DagothGares
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posted July 05, 2009 02:02 AM

As if that has any relevance to America...
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xerdux
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posted July 05, 2009 02:02 AM

Well, in my opinion its nescessary to sacrifice some people to save many others.

Okey, so this is what I got so far:

Iraq has oil. US wants oil but does not want to pay for it. US says Iraq has nuclear powers and is dangerous. US invades Iraq and steals oil. US ruins the whole nation. US captures Saddam. George Bush is the biggest ass ever to live.
Oh, and Saddam also gassed some people but its not big deal. There are to many humans anyway.

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Mytical
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posted July 05, 2009 07:17 AM

Yet another Anti-American thread.  Yay.  Is America perfect?  Far from it.  As said by somebody before, however, let he without sin cast the first stone.
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blizzardboy
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posted July 05, 2009 07:53 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 08:08, 05 Jul 2009.

@Xerdux:

Most people consider Saddam to be a bad person because he was a dictator that was very ruthless and violent in maintaining his power: most notably when he gassed his own people. As for your psychopathic/murderous/genocidal comment of "there are too many humans anyway" I expect and demand you to be the 1st person to volunteer to kill yourself, especially considering it is 1st world countries, and not 3rd world impoverished countries, that are burdening the world.  

Also, this question is seperate from "Why did the U.S. invade Iraq" since even if you don't agree with the war, 99% of people would all agree that Saddam was a bad person either way.
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Rarensu
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posted July 05, 2009 10:54 AM
Edited by Rarensu at 10:56, 05 Jul 2009.

America got attacked on 9/11. Women reacted typically, by ordering the men to "do something!". Men reacted typically, by ordering the government to "kill somebody!". Politicians reacted typically, by ordering their advisers to "find a scapegoat!". Hussein was the lucky winner. Politicians were happy because they distracted the public, men were happy because their bloodthirst was quenched, and women were happy because they were made to feel safe again. Everybody wins. (Except Hussein.)
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VokialBG
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posted July 05, 2009 12:11 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 12:26, 05 Jul 2009.

Quote:
He also gassed a bunch of his own people.


Facts are facts. This is not anti-american thread. And Bush isn't there anymore.

Looking back on the history it's pretty normal a World power to smash someone from time to time, they just did it with Iraq. I'm sure it was for the oil, we all know it.

About the theory that the NATO invasion in Iraq (Bulgaria was also in, only with few hundreds, but still in) has the aim to free the people of Iraq is wrong, sad but true, the war killed over a million civilians, started a civil war, and tones of uprisings and revolts agains the US troops or/and the new Iraq government. Even if it was for good it turned Iraq to chaos (and it was not, why they have to sacrifice troops to free Iraq...). And I'm sure it's people was much better during Saddams regime, at least there were not so many fights between the different muslims and tribes...

Todays world  battle is just like the cold war, the world powers USA, Russa and China are fighting for influence. USA is using NATO, wars againt Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, Russia is using the resources there (they are keeping half of Europes energetics), etc...

We all saw it in the Kosovo problem. Kosovo claim independence and the NATO supported it, Russia did not. It's play between the world powers and it feel bad if you are one of the bug-states, which ingratiate with them or are waiting to be smashed.
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Mytical
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posted July 05, 2009 12:23 PM

In the end it will be China that emerges the victor.  Too many people for it to end any other way.  Best USA can do is hope for 2nd place.
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VokialBG
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posted July 05, 2009 12:35 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 12:41, 05 Jul 2009.

Quote:
Please explain why Saddam was killed and what he did to become a bad guy.


Why he was killed? It's easy to tell you why. I'll give two examples from the history.

First example. The October Revolution (1917), aimed to place a new system in Russia, that's why they killed the Tsar (Russians emperor) and his family. Why they killed him? Because one day if the new system fall, the Tsar's inheritors may return, and claim Russia again. Or he may even try to sabotage the new system. Some historians are calling this naive, but here comes the next example:

Second example. In 1944 the soviet troops invaded Bulgaria, and started Bolshevist revolt, they changed the system here, Bulgaria was no more Tsardom but Peoples Republic of Bulgaria they placed the communism here. But what happend to the bulgarian tsar and his familly? The tsar was only 9 years old (his father died in 1943), and ruled with regents. The communists killed the regents but not the Tsar and his familly, they were banished out of Bulgaria.

In 1989 the communism in Bulgaria ends and Peoples Republic of Bulgaria converted to Republic of Bulgaria in 2000 the old Tsar of Bulgaria - Simeon II returned from Spain (where he was in exile), on 63 years, in 2001 he was candidate for prime minister and in the same year he was elected. He was prime minister of Bulgaria to 2005 and he is still very influential person here and he is candidate for prime minister again on todays elections in Bulgaria. If he was killed he would be never able to come back. Now you know why they killed Saddam.

Simeon was elected because all here know for the glory of the Third Danubian Bulgarian Tsardom, and Simeon was it's last monarch, and son of one of the greates bulgarian monarchs ever.
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posted July 05, 2009 01:18 PM

Quote:
America got attacked on 9/11. Women reacted typically, by ordering the men to "do something!". Men reacted typically, by ordering the government to "kill somebody!". Politicians reacted typically, by ordering their advisers to "find a scapegoat!". Hussein was the lucky winner. Politicians were happy because they distracted the public, men were happy because their bloodthirst was quenched, and women were happy because they were made to feel safe again. Everybody wins. (Except Hussein.)

So true.

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posted July 05, 2009 02:18 PM

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As for your psychopathic/murderous/genocidal comment of "there are too many humans anyway" I expect and demand you to be the 1st person to volunteer to kill yourself

yep, and why is it necessary to sacrifice some people to save many others?

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Darkshadow
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posted July 05, 2009 04:49 PM

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In the end it will be China that emerges the victor.  Too many people for it to end any other way.  Best USA can do is hope for 2nd place.


Lots of people, Sure.

Lack of world leader resources (military is in pathedic shape, no matter if lots of people or not).

and I have to admit I doubt US will give up the world leader position without a fight (and in that case no one will be winner).
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DagothGares
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posted July 05, 2009 07:04 PM

Except you, right, sir?

The Bolivian minions people who are entirely equal to us in every way needed this for their contract to be valid. I know it's negligible, but we have good contacts there and I'd rather not get estranged from the bean stock.
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Darkshadow
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posted July 05, 2009 07:11 PM

But of course!

Where there are wars, there is also power and profit
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DagothGares
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posted July 05, 2009 07:23 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 19:24, 05 Jul 2009.

In a war, everybody wins!

Except the poor b@stards who participate of course.
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posted July 05, 2009 07:29 PM

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I doubt US will give up the world leader position without a fight
They don't have to give it, China, having more economical potential, will take it and there is nothing USA can do except waging war but I don't think it is possible.

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