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elkston
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posted January 05, 2002 04:12 PM |
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Edited By: Hexa on 28 Jan 2002
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Trying to defeat 60 ghost dragons in SOD campaign
Hello all. Is victory possible with the following army and stats:
I have Gem ( the main hero) with A-10, D-11, P-8, K-12 / 200 SP / Expert Earth Magic, Expert First Aid, and Advanced Archery among others.
Her army is:
177 centaur captains
41 Crusaders
45 Silver Pegasi
50 Royal Griffins
20 War Unicorns
5 Green Dragons
140 Grand Elves
I also have another hero with me (other than Clancy, who I can't lose in this sceanrio) that I could use for sacrificial, "softening up" purposes. He could potentialy carry Clancy's army which is:
163 Battle Dwarves, 196 Halbediers, 13 Minotaur Kings,
24 Harpy Hags, 4 Cavaliers, 6 monks, and 50 dendroid soldiers.
Do you see a winning strategy against 20 Ghost Dragons and 40 Bone Dragons (split up into stacks of 20, 20, 20)?
Thanks for you help.
Edit: revived!@
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Aculias
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posted January 05, 2002 06:17 PM |
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Not sure what spells you have lets try this
Bring in 177 centaurs, 41 crusaders, 20 war unicorns, 140 elves,163 battle dwarves,196 halbediers,& 50 dendroid guards.
Station the Dendroids & the halbediers side by side next to the Elves.
Knowing the ghost dragons will go first but the bone dragons probally wont.
The ghost dragon will probally go for your Elves first hit, While the other dragons wont reach you.
Wait everyones turn until the Halbediers get their first bid,Try casting either bless, disrupting ray on them or bloodlust on the halbediers & whack the ghost dragon & unleash on him.
The main thing is keeping the ghost dragon from moving with your dendroids.
Next round the bone dragons will probally reach you so start on just one bone dragon & have your weakest creature attack it first most likely the Halbediers. Maybe an offensive spell can wear the bone dragon down. The main thing is to use your Dendroids wisely knowing if they move then the dragon wont be entangled, So just let the dendroids(of course let them attack first)& the elves attack the ghost dragon in the sec round
Just repeat the process with the other bone dragon.
You might lose alot of elves but I hope this works.
Good luck.
Use your Dendroids wisely.
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Thunder
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posted January 05, 2002 06:17 PM |
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You should have listed the spells what you have......
If you have tactics you should shield the Grand Elves. If you dont have tactics you could still shield unless Ghost Dragons attacked them. If you have a slow cast it. If you have haste but no slow you could cast it on the pegasi and shield the elves with Pegasi and Dragons. Grand Elves will kill around 3-4 Ghost Dragons in range with every shot! And they shoot twice.
You should take those Dendroids in. They are excellent in fights like this.
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Aculias
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posted January 05, 2002 06:29 PM |
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I wish he had tactics, he mentioned his skills up above thats why i found it hard to guard the elves, orless you can put them in the upper right where hopefully they cant reach them, but thats unlikely.
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elkston
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posted January 05, 2002 06:55 PM |
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I don't have tactics. Wish I did because as you mentioned, it would be easier to guard those Grand Elves. I'm about to play now and I'll try your suggestions. I have all the spells you mentioned so I'll give it go ...
Thank you and I'll let you know what happens ....
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Aculias
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posted January 05, 2002 08:50 PM |
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I pray you become victorious without many casualties
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posted January 05, 2002 09:13 PM |
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They are right Dendroids are key to victory.
Place Grand elves in the way that they are either on top or bottom of battle screen, Dends must be just next to them.
Ghost D. will attack the elves (99%) hit them with Battle Dwarves, then dends and move your shooters away.
I would sacrifice pegasi, move them forward next to Bone D., dont attack them, first round mass slow (tell me you got it). You wont have to worry about them for the time pegasi stand + 1 turn. Then sacrifice Royal Griffins.
As far the spells are concerned the blind would be usefull. But you probably dont have it .... hopefully your War Unicorns will do the job 
I would try taking Halbediers & Centaurs instead of Pegasi & Griffins - only if you have bless. But then you cant use the sacrifice tactic I mentioned.
Remember always hit with Battle Dwarves first, they are the fodder.
Good luck!
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Aculias
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posted January 05, 2002 09:24 PM |
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I disagree with some of your tactics.
First with the slow spell.
Why use slow when the bone dragons most likely will fly near his creatures & reach them the sec turn.
I dont think it's a good idea for the pegasi to be there because there are not many of them.
Moving the elves would be useless because if the ghost dragons are not next to them then the bone dragon will
Of course it all depends on the type of terrain you are on because maybe the bone dragons wont fly as close & then the mass slow could come in handy.
I also think that the battle dwarves could be more useful later in the battle then wasting them on the ghost dragons.
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elkston
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posted January 05, 2002 10:14 PM |
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Hey guys, I was able to win the battle. I added the dendroids, dwarfs, and halbediers to the army as suggested. The Ghost Dragons attacked the Halberdiers in the first round. I waited on everybody else and had the Halbedeirs attack to soak up the retaliation. After that, I moved my Grand Elves out of the way and had all my other stacks gang up on the Ghost Ds. My spells and Grand eleves took care of the other 2 stacks of bone dragons. I lost a good number of halberdiers, and a few champions and dwarfs. All other stacks were intact, though.
BUT, I discovered that there is yet another stack of purely Ghost Dragons guarding the artifact needed to complete the scenario. This is a bit much for my army and I think I need more troops. The problem is, I pretty much vacated my castles and took all my army "on the road" cause I was convinced I could beat this particular dragon stack and get the artifact to win the scenario. Looks like I'll be starting over and THIS time, I'm going to concentrate on building up Gold Dragons as fast as a can.
Thanks for the help.
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elkston
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posted January 05, 2002 11:25 PM |
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Well it turns out that I was able to win the *real* ghost dragon battle with the same army. It just required a bit of spell strategy I guess. They key was using "Teleport" at the right times to get my
Grand Elves out of the way so they could do damage to the
Ghost Dragon stack.
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posted January 05, 2002 11:27 PM |
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Forget the part I said about the blind. I forgot that undead are immune to blind ... silly me LOL (thanks Razor_X)
I assumed the Ghost D will attack Grand E. that's why I said to move them away, so they could shot.
Im not sure slow is such a bad idea, after all he got expert earth. BoneD have 9 speed (not sure), slowing them seems logical. Moreover, next turn he will be first b/c ghostd get slowed too.
About the 'moving pegasi forward' tactic. It was just an option, somtiems it helps, somtimes not.
I said BDwarves b/c I thought he would take one first lvl stack. BD have more health than Hal.&Cent. together (if not they have lots of hps) thats why I suggested using them as a fodder.
This were just ideas not a solution that guarantees a win.
Actually I dont remember when I had such a fight.
When you play vs. human player either you have fights with no loses or with planned loses (like attacking utopias without resurrection & loosing all 1st lvl creatures you brought). (That's the situation on maps that I play)
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Aculias
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posted January 06, 2002 01:57 AM |
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Sorry Icon if i was getting carried away.
All righiiit congratulations on your win & it worked out better then i thought.
I am glad I could help.
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Lord_Dragon_...
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posted January 06, 2002 07:13 PM |
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DUH! All U need is Solmyr!
Solmyr is the kewlest! 
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Thunder
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posted January 06, 2002 07:28 PM |
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Quote:
I wish he had tactics, he mentioned his skills up above thats why i found it hard to guard the elves, orless you can put them in the upper right where hopefully they cant reach them, but thats unlikely.
Actually, if you deploy your Elves right or leftmost they will be in corner.
But you could also put them on the middle and flanked by two-hex wide units (like Unicorns and Centaurs). Then you just fly the Gold Dragons on the front of the Grand Elves.
Then you can shoot in the first round with them.
Unit Speeds
Ghost Dragons: 14, when slowed 7
Gold Dragons: 16
Silver Pegasi: 12, when hasted 15
EDIT:
I viewed Green Dragons as a Gold Dragons. I should have been more keen when reading.
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Aculias
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posted January 06, 2002 08:22 PM |
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Thats true the only problem was is that he did not have any gold dragons & they are hard to build in the sod campaign.
But the ghost dragon would move first.
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Aculias
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posted August 06, 2002 11:20 AM |
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wow memories heres where I first tried to help someone strategically lol
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