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veco
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who am I?
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posted August 19, 2009 04:48 PM |
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connection... so slow here...darn modem.. me join...argh!!
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zamfir
Promising
Supreme Hero
Allez allez allez
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posted August 20, 2009 04:48 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 20, 2009 05:14 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 00:24, 21 Aug 2009.
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I am hesitant to let you play zamfir, sorry. You already had a past in the regular tournaments, I thought you would be more responsible in the future but arena tourney was no different. You disappeared and didn't notify anyone. No I think not, what I need is consistent players that will make it a good experience for the others.
I would like to raise a controversial issue, namely the elemental artifacts. Certain factions like dungeon, academy, even sylvan can be immensely helped or hindered by them so I am curious how you feel about this randomness. For instance an swift minded empowered meteor with slippers or a fireball with 20+ spellpower, cape and ignite can win games on their own. Of course should the opposing faction have 50% protection from said element the situation is reversed and you may not be able to deal enough damage.
Do you enjoy this randomness in a tournament or would you rather I removed the artifacts that give 50% boost/protection to make things more tactical? Arties with 25% reduction would remain since they don't have such a big impact. I can probably guess what the consensus will be but still I felt I had to bring this up.
A few games where the lucky side had the artifacts and the opposition no protection.
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted August 21, 2009 08:41 AM |
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I vote Randomness any day
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Maniek
Hired Hero
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posted August 21, 2009 11:02 AM |
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Can I join to this tournament?
my msn: paw011@interia.pl
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 21, 2009 11:04 AM |
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Welcome  Let me guess friend of albolabris?
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Maniek
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posted August 21, 2009 11:49 AM |
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albolabris
Known Hero
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posted August 21, 2009 11:50 AM |
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Miss Elvin Don't know Maniek, his nickname for sure, it can be anyone. You think i will summon hordes of players to cause problems for You, Oldtimers? Nothing like that.Don't have my own army, yet...
As for the elemental artifacts issue. Though i have killed ( not only died as you show here ) in that kind of way couple times I want them to stay. For 100%. There are artifacts for protection also. You can have luck or bad luck in the artifacts shop of course. That's why, maybe the whole artifacts obtaining system could be different. What would You say about that three way choise from my Arena map? I think it's really better...Since 4 or 5 days a lot of people are playing on this map and really you have more chance to obtain protective arts. The whole artifacts way can be weaker than the other two but if you go for Dungeon you choose the one with the arts for protection. Cut the money, make those three ways in the Underground and we will see how it works.
If anyone would like to see how it's done, here is the map Polish version of Arena Type Map from the Hall of War League
If you leave it as it is i vote for this randomness.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 21, 2009 11:57 AM |
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The problem with this approach is that there is no cost of opportunity, you do not pay for what you get. I must admit that I loved the idea when I saw it, a fair and simple approach yet my balance revolves around money management. Yeah blame the economist in me
For the others to understand what we are talking about there are three areas accessible through one way teleporter, each has 1 relic, 2 major and 3 minor random artifacts so you choose accordingly.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 21, 2009 01:49 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 14:20, 21 Aug 2009.
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I think the elemental artefacts should stay. While I agree that a swiftminded lucky empowered elemental attack (no matter which one) is almost impossible to recover from I don't think it's broken in the long run. Apart from the fact that a lucky swiftmind spell is devastating no matter wether it's empowered by and elemental artefact or not.
The way I see it the elemental artefacts are a welcomed boost to factions whose SP growth isn't all too stable like Fortress and Academy so it makes destruction a more attractive choice for them.
So let them stay a) since it's a matter of luck and b) because we also have the protective versions of the artefacts.
And I'm vastly in favour of the merchant system of getting artefacts also due to the increased planning factor. In the end you either have money for the mentor or artefacts (or a bit of both) so it's a lot more complex that simply being lucky or unlucky (like in the system in the polish map, no offense). So merchants and elements should stay .
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Elvin
Admirable
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posted August 21, 2009 02:06 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 14:07, 21 Aug 2009.
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That is the kind of reply I was expecting, thoughtful and to the point. Knowing most tohers oppose bans and since I've also received a few disagreements in hcm you can rest assured that the elemental arties will remain. And so will the merchant system, I wasn't considering to change that.
Something else. I'd like people who join to let me know of their approximate heroes level, mostly the newcomers since I have a good idea about the rest. Do you consider yourself new, advanced, expert?
That would help a lot in assembling the groups.
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FoolishMan
Known Hero
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posted August 21, 2009 03:03 PM |
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if there is room for more i'd like to enter
larry fanoga
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 21, 2009 03:12 PM |
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I was wondering when you'd show up, welcome Larry
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Towerlord
Promising
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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted August 21, 2009 04:22 PM |
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I think I'll join also, not sure though, since October is still far away. If the tournament is knock-out like all duels before, I'm 99% in, as 3 duels / week I can manage easily.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 21, 2009 04:32 PM |
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Not this time, it's more like the arena tourney. We'll see how it goes, there are more with uncertain schedule.
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albolabris
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posted August 21, 2009 09:50 PM |
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And I'm vastly in favour of the merchant system of getting artefacts also due to the increased planning factor. In the end you either have money for the mentor or artefacts (or a bit of both) so it's a lot more complex that simply being lucky or unlucky (like in the system in the polish map, no offense). So merchants and elements should stay.
I'm not offended for sure because that would be very stupid but this merchant system is same as those 3 ways if we speak about luck ( you have to plan more, here I agree ). You either are lucky to have some good artifacts to buy or not. Same thing, nothing complex reallyIf you have good arts, everybody buys them leaving some army. Simple choise
Espiecially speaking of the elemental and protective artifacts that are very cheap comparing to the others. But ok, let's leave it. Whatever for me. Rules are same for everybody. One time people will die painfully, other time they will crush others heavilly. Blood rage is a good thing from time to time
Apart from that. Don't want to be rude in those next lines so don't take it too deep to your mind and heart but I think we should leave this map as it is now. Why? Because You are not going to change anything anyway...
Put me as an experienced player if we choose only from those 3 levels.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted August 21, 2009 10:13 PM |
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Quote:
Do you consider yourself new, advanced, expert?
That would help a lot in assembling the groups.
Jinxer = New
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 21, 2009 10:22 PM |
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Says the guy with 200+ games under his belt
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted August 22, 2009 02:17 AM |
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Quote:
Quote:
Do you consider yourself new, advanced, expert?
That would help a lot in assembling the groups.
Jinxer = New
fiur = totally noob!
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted August 22, 2009 07:13 AM |
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Says the guy with 200+ games under his belt
But ZERO duel games.
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