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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: how come in HoMM 3 castle isn't the worst
Thread: how come in HoMM 3 castle isn't the worst
ULTRAMARIOX
ULTRAMARIOX


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posted August 08, 2009 06:46 AM

how come in HoMM 3 castle isn't the worst

in HoMM 1+2 they were the worst faction of all but now they are next to the best
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Guitarguy
Guitarguy


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posted August 08, 2009 01:23 PM
Edited by Guitarguy at 13:27, 08 Aug 2009.

My thoughts

The town factions in Heroes 1 and 2 were virtually the same, whereas they were greatly redesigned in the third game.  While the Knight and Barbarian towns were on the weaker end of the spectrum in 1 and 2, Heroes 3 tried to even things out, so that each faction could stand a better chance against the others.  Some say it's not perfectly balanced, but the difference is very noticeable.  The Castle faction is further away from being the "worst", what with more robust stats and the addition of two fliers and another shooter (to name just a few things).

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Lord_Woock
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posted August 08, 2009 01:43 PM

I think it's mostly because HoMM3 gave the town proper, workable bottom and top level creatures
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Shyranis
Shyranis


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posted August 10, 2009 08:46 PM

Instead of overpriced horrible paesants that slow you down and waste army space? =D
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tmacv
tmacv


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posted August 10, 2009 10:56 PM

Angels>Paladins - tier 7
Pikeman>Peasants - tier 1
add in Griffins

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Zolmir
Zolmir


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posted August 10, 2009 11:20 PM
Edited by Zolmir at 23:21, 10 Aug 2009.

The transfer of Griffins from Warlocks to the castle did the trick. Also, the worst creatures in Castle are Halberdiers (2nd among 1st levels) and Zealots (A level 5 shooter with no melee penalty). That fact speaks for itself.
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supergub
supergub


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Abridged series fan
posted August 14, 2009 02:48 AM

Yeah, my favorite town in HOMM3 has always been the Castle. If you are another town, and the computer is the Castle, it is way easier for the computer to win than for any other town. Castle has the best creatures for the most part, and it is easy to play. You don't even need any of the special resources except for building(unless you're playing SOD).
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Shyranis
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posted August 14, 2009 03:11 AM

Castle is the strongest town. Probably because they were overcompensating for Knights being the weakest in the long game.

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pei
pei


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posted August 19, 2009 05:41 PM

Well, i happen to disagree.

Castle has good balance,yes but his town buildings including the grail one are kind of crapy and suitable for some maps.
Creatures are very good and also heroes.

Castle´s balance is, in my opinion, trashed by a Dungeon.
Dungeon has also great balance, the buildings are suitable for early & end-game maps(all of them), magic lvl 5!! MMM tasty! and the heroes are pretty good.

In my opinion, i repeat, ur analysis is only creature based & does not contemplate the rest of the game.

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bjorn190
bjorn190


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posted August 20, 2009 12:48 AM

I would say it depends on the richness of the map.

If the map is rich, then castle is an awesome town. Especially if griffin conservatories are found.

If the map is poor, then I would rather be playing rampart or necro if it is allowed.
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Magusforever
Magusforever

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Black Dragons Rule
posted August 22, 2009 09:18 PM

i still liked Castle in Heroes 2. None of the guys in the castle seem uselesss except for the Peasants. But i like having them to laugh at them. Crusaders i still think are sweet. Cant beat Dragons or Titams but they are better than Phoenixs and Cyclops. Havent played in a while so i cant remember who wins betweeen Crusader and Bone Dragon.(Think it was the BonE)

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Zolmir
Zolmir


Hired Hero
posted August 22, 2009 10:41 PM

Crusaders did twice damage against undead back then; so the Paladins could slay the Bone Dragons with ease. In fact Castle was the ultimate necro-slayer IIRC.
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supergub
supergub


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Abridged series fan
posted August 22, 2009 10:45 PM

lol...Crusaders got a major kick to the nuts, went from the highest level to the middle. That's a 2 rank demotion...
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Magusforever
Magusforever

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Black Dragons Rule
posted August 23, 2009 09:59 AM

really didnt know Knight was double damage to Necromancer. I always liked Knight more than Sorceress and Barbarian. Warlock and Wizard are dope but Necro is my favorite in this one

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Geltnim
Geltnim


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posted August 26, 2009 01:39 PM

HoMM 3 considered it was only fair that the weakest town be finally somehow evened up with the other towns. I mean, in HoMM1, Paladins only had 10 hit points more than Minotaurs who were 4 lvl creatures, I guess Catherine Ironfist was finally fed up!
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