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Jormungand
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The Hammer of Hate
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posted August 30, 2009 10:47 AM |
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Age of Empires 2: the age of kings
This is definitely the best real time strategy game ever made!!!
To all of those rts-maniacs out there, come to this topic to discuss this legendary game.
I, an aok-veteran(&freak) wants to know if there are other people out there who are still playing this rts-pearl.
Here you can ask questions like; best civ, best strat, how to start, ...
Probably i'll know the answer to those questions and if i dont, there will be an other aok-worshipper(perhaps better then me) who will
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Gods of war I call you, my sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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Mytical
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Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted August 30, 2009 11:10 AM |
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I have played this recently, and it is a great game. One of the few that kept my interest for longer then a day.
My biggest question is the tech tree. Pick your favorite civ and give a good start for a tech tree (I realise that resources will play a part, but as good as you can). Say the first 10-15 techs?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 30, 2009 11:14 AM |
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I just recently started playing it again with 2 friends. It's hillarious. Don't play it competetively though you us 3 against AI, building up a enpire and then sending your super huge legion of units to ground the AI to the dirt^^. Fun really. It baffles me how fast my friend gets to Imperial age though... only takes him 15 minutes and he has huge ammount of structures and units by then... guess I should speed up my early game peasant production xD.
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Guitarguy
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Supreme Hero
Rockoon.
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posted August 30, 2009 11:37 AM |
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As with HOMM3, I really enjoy AoK, but I'm not that good at it. I just play it for fun, seeing how long I can last before the AI invades. You can read about my strategies and experiences in this thread.
-Guitarguy
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Totoro
Famous Hero
in User
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posted August 30, 2009 12:42 PM |
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This is the best strategy article about AoE2 out there.
Everyone should read and attempt to master it.
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Jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted August 30, 2009 08:12 PM |
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My biggest question is the tech tree. Pick your favorite civ and give a good start for a tech tree (I realise that resources will play a part, but as good as you can). Say the first 10-15 techs?
i do researching and villager build in this order;
-20villagers(total of 23 - 15food - 8wood)
-loom (stronger villagers)
-feudal age
-15villagers(total of 38 - 15food - 8wood - 11gold -4stone)
-fletching(for extra town center firepower against feudal rushes)
-wheelbarrow
-horse collar
-double-bit axe
-gold mining
-stone mining
-castle age
-10villagers(total of 48 - depending on civ and strat divert the extra ten to boost needed resources)
-murder holes
-hand kart
-bodkin arrow and the blacksmith researches for the units you'll use
-extra mill, mining camp and maybe sawmill researches
i always play on giant maps with 200pop and i beat the crap out of the ai(and my neighbours) on hardest using this start.
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I just recently started playing it again with 2 friends. It's hillarious. Don't play it competetively though you us 3 against AI, building up a enpire and then sending your super huge legion of units to ground the AI to the dirt^^. Fun really. It baffles me how fast my friend gets to Imperial age though... only takes him 15 minutes and he has huge ammount of structures and units by then... guess I should speed up my early game peasant production xD.
use the above starting strat and your friend will be stunned how fast you reach imperial age. dont worry about military in dark and feudal, really just build close to your town center(extremely usefull with teutons) and defend untill you hit imperial.
in castle age build a small garrisson of unique units.
build walls on natural passages, using this (expensive but unbreakable) defense;
written by myself(even my neighbour cant find a solution);
If there are only a few passages to your village, block them off with a wall (maybe with a gate). One tile behind the wall comes a line of trebuchets (one treb/two walls). Close behind the trebuchets come (bombard) towers and perhaps a castle. The only thing the enemy is capable of doing is sending tons of trebuchets, but they’ll get destroyed before they are unpacked.
Only weakness is elite longbowmen (if this happens charge with cavalry from behind or try pounding them with your trebuchets)
my neighbour did not try to use the britons yet and has already tried to break it with;
-5bombard cannons: my trebs blew the heck out of them
-10trebs: they were unpacking but got shot to pieces
-80teutonic knights: bombard towers...
-50paladins: bombard towers...
-20siege rams: bombard towers...again
-and a full-scale assault with 100teutonic knights, 60paladins and 5 trebs, but i didnt feel a thing and he had to retreat
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Gods of war I call you, my sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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Jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted August 30, 2009 08:31 PM |
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guitarguy:nice strat with those light cavs but i think your problem with ai is that you're a slow starter... no worry, just build those villies quickly and dont hit that feudal button that early
totoro: my neighbour tried it, but we always play on giant maps so i created rubble out of his towers with my castle age garrisson because i scout the area
palisade walls? a villager just needs to spit on it and its down...
feudal armies? against a murder hole castle with garrisson?
they are good strats on small maps indeed, but their effectiveness decreases on larger ones
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Gods of war I call you, my sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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Guitarguy
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Rockoon.
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posted August 31, 2009 02:01 AM |
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I've trained myself to play faster at the start of games so I can quickly get all my villagers working, but I think my problem is that I really hate RTS micromanagement. Having to look after everything and making sure villagers/troops move on to new tasks gets maddening after a while.
It's actually a bigger problem in games like Empire Earth, because I'd spend a good 1/2 hour developing a really good economy and military, but then the AI would simply run past my troops and kill half of my workers within a minute. There's only so much I can control at once (compared to the computer), which really turns me off.
It's better for me in AoK, just as long as I get my ranged troops and Walls set up. Another problem is that I hate when they start using siege units. I guess the threat of being bombarded with area-damage makes the battlefield really messy, and by then I'm usually freaking out trying to get my cavalry to reach multiple trouble spots.
I've not played in a long time, so maybe I'll give it a better try next time.
-Guitarguy
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william
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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted August 31, 2009 03:41 AM |
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Edited by william at 08:03, 31 Aug 2009.
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Just to quote Guitarguy again, there is another (larger) thread:
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You can read about my strategies and experiences in this thread.
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Jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted August 31, 2009 11:17 AM |
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I've trained myself to play faster at the start of games so I can quickly get all my villagers working, but I think my problem is that I really hate RTS micromanagement. Having to look after everything and making sure villagers/troops move on to new tasks gets maddening after a while.
It's actually a bigger problem in games like Empire Earth, because I'd spend a good 1/2 hour developing a really good economy and military, but then the AI would simply run past my troops and kill half of my workers within a minute. There's only so much I can control at once (compared to the computer), which really turns me off.
It's better for me in AoK, just as long as I get my ranged troops and Walls set up. Another problem is that I hate when they start using siege units. I guess the threat of being bombarded with area-damage makes the battlefield really messy, and by then I'm usually freaking out trying to get my cavalry to reach multiple trouble spots.
I've not played in a long time, so maybe I'll give it a better try next time.
-Guitarguy
well for aok, use my start and build a castle(close to your town center and in the direction of the shortest road to the enemy) and university(murder holes) as soon as you hit castle age.
imperial age, you just need to build my defense(in dark and feudal scout for holes in the natural defense)
btw: the ai is very fast in the start, but in military he sux...
-his feudal rush is strong  it can be defeated with a fully garrissonned town center
-he chums out troops like heck just wall off and no problem
-siege weapons use my defense or intercept them with cavalry while they're underway, the ai troops usually walk on while their siege weapons are being destroyed
about micromanagement; indeed you'll need this to overcome the ai on hardest or human players, its part of almost any rts. if you dont do it, you will be weak in comparison to the hardest ai or mediocre human players
William: Thats a treat about conquerors(mostly) and its only about strategy, while aok is about a lot more then strategy. here you can ask any question about aok(best unit, wich civ does fit to me) 
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Gods of war I call you, my sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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william
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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted August 31, 2009 01:04 PM |
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Read thread title: Age Of EmpiresII: The Age Of Kings And The Conquerors strategy.
If you also read the thread, it's not all about strategy. I just don't see the point in two threads about the SAME things, especially when the one Guitarguy and myself both linked you to the same thread which is larger and has a lot of stuff in it. Ok?
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make up a dull day, Fritter and
waste the hours in an off-hand
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted August 31, 2009 05:08 PM |
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The super dog! haha thats a good one
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Jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted September 01, 2009 08:50 AM |
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Read thread title: Age Of EmpiresII: The Age Of Kings And The Conquerors strategy.
If you also read the thread, it's not all about strategy. I just don't see the point in two threads about the SAME things, especially when the one Guitarguy and myself both linked you to the same thread which is larger and has a lot of stuff in it. Ok?
ok, copy paste this thread in the other thread?
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The super dog! haha thats a good one
Cheater!!!
I laughed with that one too
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Gods of war I call you, my sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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antipaladin
Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
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posted September 01, 2009 09:20 AM |
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whos your fave civ?
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william
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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted September 01, 2009 10:47 AM |
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ok, copy paste this thread in the other thread?
You could copy paste your posts in the other thread because I can't do that.
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~Ticking away the moments that
make up a dull day, Fritter and
waste the hours in an off-hand
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Jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted September 02, 2009 10:04 PM |
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whos your fave civ?
teutons, by far(cant be rushed and great defense)
this tread goes on in the bigger tread mentioned earlier
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Gods of war I call you, my sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted September 02, 2009 10:59 PM |
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Chinese for me
Followed by Byzantines.
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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william
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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted September 03, 2009 01:56 AM |
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this tread goes on in the bigger tread mentioned earlier
Okay cool. Maybe you could copy and paste your posts in this thread into the larger thread? Cos they're kinda good.
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