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Thread: Duel Map 2nd Season *Bonkers Cup* [ This thread is 41 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 (27) 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 ]
Radar
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the honest one
posted December 31, 2009 08:12 AM

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I just viewed replay again, vamps went to front to get attacked so that retal can torpor too The torpor on warmongers was bonus but daughters attacked causing weakness & I can't see a vamp retaliation but then cyclopes attacked vamps & received retaliation torporwhat the heck funny


Earth Daughters don't receive retaliation when the enemy is under effect of Slow spell

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted December 31, 2009 09:46 AM

Happy new year guys

Started my games with veco and it's a blast so far! Arcax's games will soon follow.

First was my light/destructive warlock leading my dwarven troops against inferno Go word of light spam! I won't spoil the outcome, was a sweet chaotic game worthy of veco's craziness.

Second was my dwarves against orcs, this time both native My staff/retribution lads against the tides of orcs and archer's dream. Who will prevail..?

Replays More to come
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starts to sink into my
subconscius.
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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


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Unicorn
posted January 01, 2010 10:59 AM

I'm hoping Storm Giant has some time this weekend.

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blizzardboy
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Snowball from Hell
posted January 01, 2010 05:20 PM

The Inferno vs Fortress with Warlock was extremely violent. I'm rather surprised Inferno pulled it off. I thought WoL's from a Warlock would pound them apart too fast. Imps rock.
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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 01, 2010 07:34 PM
Edited by Elvin at 19:56, 01 Jan 2010.

Conclusion of the games. The one with floor sweeping was for fun

Well played veco, a pleasure as always.


 

True Aim
Ballista snipes down the enemy's elite units one by one.

Hack & Slash
Charges units ahead with little concern for their safety.

 

Brain Fart
High chance to persuade opponent to abandon all reasonable planning and go nuts.

 

Resurrection Frenzy
Death is but a momentary inconvenience.
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I gotta say I'm starting to feel
a bit elitist now that the qp
starts to sink into my
subconscius.
- Veco

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SKPRIMUS
SKPRIMUS


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The One and the Prime
posted January 02, 2010 05:33 AM
Edited by SKPRIMUS at 05:33, 02 Jan 2010.

umm, which was the deciding game 5?  was it the one named veco.sav? which appeared sorta incomplete? [never know what the outcome is sometimes, because sometimes with obscure stubborn thinking, one may say that one was going to win because of "such & such" even tho less troops]

Also does it mean I won't have to lose sleep over being beaten by a 13th level hero with a threat rating of "moderate"? *whew!*

I liked the 1st one where warlock-led dwa with light/dest smelled of EMPOWERED ARMAGEDDON (but thankfully not) & veco knew his inferno stuff not taking defence & doing Master of Wrathy spells before the spam

& Yah dun with right light spells leadership & defence is just great vs aca...I'm assuming both Jhora & Kythra had emphaty [in which case mass slow vs mass haste continuous counters woulda been funny]

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Just in case one hasn't been keeping up...my res unlockable came from a random duel academy game I had with Larry (but I shouldn't have won that one)
13th post down on this page named Back from the Dead
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@Elvin: I'm bit confused where your ballista came into it
But Larry's first game v Lepastur certainly fitted the theme
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Elvin
Elvin

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Stillness within Movement
posted January 02, 2010 07:34 AM

Veco was my second game where he felt he had no chances, and indeed he wouldn't be able to kill me with destructive anytime soon. As for his spawns I'll let you guess why I attacked with gargoyles
Final game was the sylvan - dungeon one, turned out a bit strange. I missed mass buffs besides divine strength so the plan was to abuse resurrection with empathy. After he killed my druids I brought them back to have him target them instead of my other units but it turned out well anyway. I could have gotten windstrider boots but primus armour is a hard prize to resist.

My Kythra had aura of swiftness if memory serves, I think I had no sorcery either. My ballista special is from that match, killed 2 titans in a row and then 1 kshatra Don't remember Lepastur's game, did he get similar ballista accuracy?
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starts to sink into my
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Elvin
Elvin

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Stillness within Movement
posted January 03, 2010 05:04 AM

With holidays over and this round overly delayed I give an extension of 5 more days. Start finishing games
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starts to sink into my
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PhoenixReborn
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Unicorn
posted January 03, 2010 01:41 PM

I had one match with Storm Giant so far.

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1-0 to Phoenix

I had a very boring build.  Distract helped me greatly.
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Lepastur
Lepastur


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The Red Taskmaster
posted January 03, 2010 06:11 PM
Edited by Lepastur at 18:51, 03 Jan 2010.

I lost my two first games with Larry. First one he brought a terrible ballista which violated my orcs (Primus surely meant about this, Elvin) maybe with Shatter Dark or even with Might over Magic things could have been different.

In second one my "no confusers" Necros succumbed before 35% Resistance Dougal after two failed tries to frenzy or Puppet (can't remember). Maybe I should have focused on my two mass spells (weakness and curse) to counter his Light and have bet for Mass Resistance at the beggining, and perhaps some Vampirism when got some room.

Hope he got both replays
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Elvin
Elvin

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Stillness within Movement
posted January 03, 2010 06:57 PM

Who Larry? Zero chance, he's too lazy to keep replays.
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starts to sink into my
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Lepastur
Lepastur


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The Red Taskmaster
posted January 04, 2010 05:08 AM

I lost the round with Larry at last, after the dumbest match ever. A swifted "Black Warlock" strategy with Armageddon burned my demons to the ground. The funny thing is I had three elemental proof arties, but guess which one I lacked... Don't know but this kind of matches are kind'a waste of time, the spell should be banned.
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Elvin
Elvin

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Stillness within Movement
posted January 04, 2010 05:24 AM

So far my experience with this match shows me it's ok but then inferno is generally susceptible to destructive.. Dungeon is a random faction, if it gets boosters it owns if you get protections it's in trouble. What kind of spellpower did he have?
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starts to sink into my
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Lepastur
Lepastur


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The Red Taskmaster
posted January 04, 2010 05:35 AM

I can't remember well, about 25-27. Anyway, the only factions which can do something (wasting levels in Fire Resist) against this are Light ones, specially Dwarves or Wizards. The rest are doomed before starting the battle.
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Elvin
Elvin

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Stillness within Movement
posted January 04, 2010 06:50 AM

I'd like to see you try it against me sometime. Up to the challenge?
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SKPRIMUS
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The One and the Prime
posted January 04, 2010 08:19 AM
Edited by SKPRIMUS at 08:35, 04 Jan 2010.

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...Anyway, the only factions which can do something (wasting levels in Fire Resist) against this are Light ones, specially Dwarves or Wizards. The rest are doomed before starting the battle.
@Lepastur,yeah I hear ya!  I did an aca arma with fire res against opponent's demons once & it felt lame as anything but honourable opponent said yah go for it, it's ok...but I'll never do it with magic faction again anyways
The trick is that using arma strategy is a boon when it's a surprise...but if opponent is prepared for it beforehand with hero/arti picks & levelling choices, etc, then I believe it's different...like when I play nathir with destructive, it's an easy loss when opponent has prepared for it.
Therefore a demo arma duel when one expects it is hardly a proof

Inferno when facing dungeon faces typically 3 possible magic types for example:
1. non-arma dest
2. dark!
3. arma
One might think about countering any of the 3 or one might just think about focusing on inferno's strengths & what is needed to win  It's unfortunate/frustrating when one prepares to counter one strategy & then opponent comes up with another, but yeah that sorta happens sometimes. [well it is about different strategies with different artis than previous versions, otherwise it's just similar strategy nearly all the time]
The other thing to think about is check if enemy hero is non-factional but I only check at beginning of game because otherwise it leads to stalling which is bad.

Anyway I still say orcs can have a chance in any game but it depends on skill/perk choices vs hero/faction etc.

Also what do you mean about swifted "Black Warlock"...is it necro hero leading another faction? & arma did less damage to own troops because of???
[replay may help]
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Edit: also I'm confused how many veco won vs how many he played
Funny watching Phoenix's daughters go to 12 morale while others had 11, I figured you had shout & enlight..
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Lepastur
Lepastur


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The Red Taskmaster
posted January 04, 2010 09:58 AM

Whenever you want, Elvin, nevertheless the point is that, with Armageddon enabled, facing dungeon is almost a lottery, doesn't matter the faction, because you always have to bet if he has the spell and/or if it's worth to waste some levels searching light, which in some cases is very hard.

Primus, the Black Warlock meant about a Armageddon Warlock with 10 blackies (B.Dragons). It's clear that Fire Resistance and/or Protection or Sap Magic is the way, but it's unfair that one player have to invest some levels always to avoid something that can happen or not. As I said, the games becomes lottery. Maybe modding the spell could work fine if we could make the main damage thing were the physical meteor and not so much the fire explosion.
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blizzardboy
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Snowball from Hell
posted January 04, 2010 10:00 AM

It's chaos. It's suppose to be stupid.
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Lepastur
Lepastur


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The Red Taskmaster
posted January 04, 2010 11:23 AM

Wrong ansswer, it's supposed to be fun with a little luck enabled in all cases nearly for equal, and not a pure lottery in certain cases. For that, it's better to play dice, it's quicker
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Arcax
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Its quite hot inside...
posted January 04, 2010 04:59 PM

Here is my 1st game with Dagoth
1-0 for me. Retribution with 2pts of morale sucks...

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