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blizzardboy
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posted January 22, 2010 03:36 PM

I'll never forgive Lepastur for losing to Larry.

I got his MSN so now it's just a matter of snagging him.
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Elvin
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posted January 23, 2010 08:08 PM

Primus! Show yourself!
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SKPRIMUS
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posted January 23, 2010 11:47 PM

Why? has bliz & Larry finihsed their games...ya see they might be less motivatedexcited to win if they knew who their imba opponent was gonna be [assuming they get past Azagal ofc which is a big ask - I remember this is chaos map - where's those windriders?]
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posted January 23, 2010 11:57 PM

My bloodlust is surging, have at thee! I'm on msn
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SKPRIMUS
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posted January 24, 2010 12:14 AM

gimme 5-10min
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Lepastur
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posted January 24, 2010 12:19 AM

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I'll never forgive Lepastur for losing to Larry.

I didn't lose to him, I lost to Armageddon

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SKPRIMUS
SKPRIMUS


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posted January 24, 2010 02:53 AM

Me & Elvin started our games as can't wait any longer for "some others"

Game 1: Primus gilraen Elvin haggash
With the right light spells available (against any opponent hero!) & frisbee of speed & celebrity on my side, it was gonna be really imba forcing a mad rush in changing the map for game balance or something...

Game 2: Primus zehir Elvin erling incomplete
Personally I think demons have no chance against non-dest dwarves so decided to pull something strange...but the build I had actually needed 2 more skill points (hello bonkers!)...emphaty/adv sorcery/adv warluck/albo's flippers (damn same slot ass Azagal's sandals why oh why)...it's incomplete [D/C!] but can't ever get back to that atb as I didn't save just b4 batl & already tried a few times but lets just say forgone confusion

Hope that doesn't discourage the other
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Elvin
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posted January 24, 2010 03:05 AM

I absorbed the initial imbalance and spat it back with my rock hard Haggash Was pretty hard-pressed so I kept the defensive until Gilraen's onslaught was worn out after which point he could not keep up. Tried to use warmogers in a way that would make maximum use of taunt but somehow it rarely triggered. Stormwind was a nice touch, hoped that with staff I'd make his dragons have 10 init

Second I had an almost perfect armageddon setup. Erling for sorcery, tome of destructive, issus staff against resistance, stand your ground and rune of resurrection/battlerage - in other words lameness incarnate.
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posted January 24, 2010 03:08 AM

& also before 1st game I got initially kythra & then dougal which both D/C'ed before even a teleport to town so there goes my imba lucks
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blizzardboy
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posted January 24, 2010 04:05 AM

Finished games with Larry. Came out 3-1 in my favor.
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Elvin
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posted January 24, 2010 04:12 AM

Pics or it didn't happen!
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blizzardboy
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posted January 24, 2010 04:17 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 04:28, 24 Jan 2010.

Coming right up Pa.

edit: Here we go:

http://www.mediafire.com/?tkjondhmnmt
http://www.mediafire.com/?zolyitdzgtl
http://www.mediafire.com/?yjyeeezquju
http://www.mediafire.com/?zlztznyvghj

1st game was my Inferno vs his Necro. Raw power took him down.

2nd game was my Necro vs his Stronghold. I was actually expecting a more commanding win, but delaying blasting away those Chieftains proved to be... very annoying. The chain of lucks didn't help. AND FOR THE RECORD, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SEND MY SKELETONS THROUGH THE WALL OF FIRE. I THOUGHT MY GHOSTS WERE UP

3rd game was my Haven vs his Fortress. I had Ring of Sar Issus but committed a massive 'oops' and completely forgot about taking Light Magic. I didn't realize it until I went to cast Mass Haste I wasn't upset about it though considering my spider senses tell me he would have won that game either way.

4th game was another Inferno vs his Necro (I get this match-up a lot). I took him down again and he had a much weaker hero than in the 1st game.


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foolishman
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posted January 24, 2010 09:06 PM
Edited by foolishman at 21:09, 24 Jan 2010.

Quote:
Coming right up Pa.

edit: Here we go:

http://www.mediafire.com/?tkjondhmnmt
http://www.mediafire.com/?zolyitdzgtl
http://www.mediafire.com/?yjyeeezquju
http://www.mediafire.com/?zlztznyvghj

1st game was my Inferno vs his Necro. Raw power took him down.

2nd game was my Necro vs his Stronghold. I was actually expecting a more commanding win, but delaying blasting away those Chieftains proved to be... very annoying. The chain of lucks didn't help. AND FOR THE RECORD, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SEND MY SKELETONS THROUGH THE WALL OF FIRE. I THOUGHT MY GHOSTS WERE UP

3rd game was my Haven vs his Fortress. I had Ring of Sar Issus but committed a massive 'oops' and completely forgot about taking Light Magic. I didn't realize it until I went to cast Mass Haste I wasn't upset about it though considering my spider senses tell me he would have won that game either way.

4th game was another Inferno vs his Necro (I get this match-up a lot). I took him down again and he had a much weaker hero than in the 1st game.




1st game i tought i have pretty good chance, had solid hero if i remember light dark necro,blizz had incredible stats(enlight) and pretty good gateing decided the winner,was pretty good game

2nd was also wery good 1,i had pretty good orcs(not great stats though) and he had necro again with great stats,destructive wasn't that effective but his defense sure was,also comp ai is really dumb and at the beginning my chieftans run through firewall losing rage and 4 of them that could make for more exciting finish
at the end they did it again even they had same nb tiles to go not through the fire,really stupid ai bug

3d i got helmar and going into the battle i tought i'll lose this 1 also,however he forgot about magic school and i got fairly easy victory

4th game was reprise of the 1st,this time i went for summoning ,dark
had really bad dark spells and no dark mass spells,no sorcery and made terrible mistake in choosing what arites i took,thinking about 2 i chose 3d option for no reason and that left me with really low mana,defence,att...my only hope was phoenix,and it was really slim 1, but he had ring of banish

also i noticed that in all games i got pretty bad arties(like 3 good arties for sword slot and so on...) and all minor arties kept repeating so i made little testing and noticed that player 1 on left and middle zone always gets all different arties(all 6) and on right zone he gets repeated minors,however player 2 gets repeated arties on all 3 zones and since i was player 2 all the games i was little handicapped(not to take anything since you played really good and probbably as me didn't know about that)

larry fanoga

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Azagal
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posted January 24, 2010 10:10 PM
Edited by Azagal at 22:10, 24 Jan 2010.

I noticed the same trend with the artifacts Larry is talking about. I'm not sure whether it's a deal breaker but it is a problem indeed. Elvin has noticed it before if I remember correctly (a post here somewhere). I'm not sure whether it's difficult to remove but it is a hindrance and it doesn't fit the original idea for the artifact randomisation. Would be great if something could be done about it.

I really liked the first and the third game. Those Chieftans were ooooooff the chain oO. Man first time I see them reach 3rd level rage in a major fight and them scoring lucky hits in like 7/10 shots and resisting spells... GOD they must have been a huge pain lol. That game was also funny to watch since Blizz moved forward in teny tiny steps and Larry kept shooting with his Cyclopi... that was unusal. Nice games guys. Looks like I'll duke it out with Blizzard then.
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Elvin
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posted January 24, 2010 10:37 PM

Loved the first two. Btw chieftain pathfinding is not a bug, by now you should know how your units move if you want to avoid stepping through firewalls or where to set traps.. The artifact issue I believe will be resolved if I decrease number of artifacts, I am currently testing a version with 2 relics/3 major/4 minor.
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posted January 24, 2010 10:42 PM
Edited by foolishman at 22:51, 24 Jan 2010.

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I noticed the same trend with the artifacts Larry is talking about. I'm not sure whether it's a deal breaker but it is a problem indeed. Elvin has noticed it before if I remember correctly (a post here somewhere). I'm not sure whether it's difficult to remove but it is a hindrance and it doesn't fit the original idea for the artifact randomisation. Would be great if something could be done about it.

I really liked the first and the third game. Those Chieftans were ooooooff the chain oO. Man first time I see them reach 3rd level rage in a major fight and them scoring lucky hits in like 7/10 shots and resisting spells... GOD they must have been a huge pain lol. That game was also funny to watch since Blizz moved forward in teny tiny steps and Larry kept shooting with his Cyclopi... that was unusal. Nice games guys. Looks like I'll duke it out with Blizzard then.


it would be even better if ai wasn't that stupid to walk through firewall when it had pleny of room to pass by,without losing that rage at the start (and 4 of chieftans at the process) it could turn the game my way,however that is my problem for not counting on that

but the arties should be fixed as some minors can be good advantage in some cases(ring of banish,boots of speed...) and 1 player getting 2 times 6 different arties(+3 in right zone) while other about 4 arties in total is map imbalance for sure

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Loved the first two. Btw chieftain pathfinding is not a bug, by now you should know how your units move if you want to avoid stepping through firewalls or where to set traps.. The artifact issue I believe will be resolved if I decrease number of artifacts, I am currently testing a version with 2 relics/3 major/4 minor.


well 1st time there was no way to pass other way counting the nb of tiles(ofc there was plenty of space),but 2nd time there was exactly   the same path to go through or not through the firewall and ai decided that firewall path is better

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Elvin
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posted January 25, 2010 01:17 AM

Final game with Primus turned one-sided without even featuring an interesting combination Initially I had in mind word of light with warlock's luck so I started from the second waiting for light that never came. Then I realized that I might have a chance to do something unique, finish both armies with an empowered lucky armageddon! That was also not the case as he got shield of crystal ice but even with my 37 power I doubt it would have worked anyway, I needed fire cape for that

And.. Turned out my warlock's luck generator was broken. I kept casting and casting and casting with 4 luck - absolutely nothing! Until..

Watch, the ending was strangely satisfying after a painfully boring duel.





Suicidal
Burn baby burn!!
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SKPRIMUS
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posted January 25, 2010 01:52 AM
Edited by SKPRIMUS at 11:03, 25 Jan 2010.

As I dreaded, the faction matchup luck finally deserted me & I got that faction [mainly because I got lucky vs Phoenix last round]

yah funny how the game tries to balance things out by not triggering your warluck after having insane sp (prolly due to skull)
I forgot I had PM too
pity there wasn't better light spells than haste/regen else I woulda gone for that

& shame on you bliz, I have noticed that when Larry/Elvin hosts their games they alternate player 1 & 2...hehe Larry ya should read the randoom duel thread more because I brought it up before...that nec v inf game 1 was weird [I can't believe that Larry had so many available spell options in that game including mass haste/slow without counters...what do you cast first?] & I guess lack of mass cleansing/raisins hurt but others have mentioned mass suff/weak are great combo vs inf.

edit: but there is no trend I can see of player 1 winning a lot more often than player 2
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posted January 25, 2010 02:13 AM

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& shame on you bliz, I have noticed that when Larry/Elvin hosts their games they alternate player 1 & 2:!

I don't understand what you mean.

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SKPRIMUS
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posted January 25, 2010 05:53 AM

Just wanted to make him feel guilty & I reckon he's turned to the dark side now that he's got a few wins in that "other" forum

oh...you mean hosting games? well surely you have noticed? um when they play more than 1 game, Elvin hosts as player 1 & then next game he hosts as player 2 [if my laptop is slower I don't host]...but it's just a talking point & I don't care anyway, let's have those extra rings of cautions
Also FYI, on a replay the colour of the banner flag on the hero [NOT the colour of the writing] tells you whether they were player 1 or player 2 & there was a stage before where player 2 had more wins
[Seriously, it's the faction matchups that are more determinant than those repeat artis]

Also see this page 8th post down
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