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posted October 16, 2009 07:46 PM

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A landlord has no right to prevent me from pursuing happiness in any way I deem fit as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.

A Jew has as much right to rent an aprtment as anyone else. A black has as much right to eat in a public restruant as anyone else.
Sorry to break it to you, but if it's your property, shouldn't you decide which you want to handle it to? I mean, your property and all that, not the government's business who you let in or out, isn't it?

I don't remember that you have a right to USE someone else's property if that person doesn't want you to and wants to kick you out.

As always, who's the hypocrite?
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posted October 16, 2009 08:03 PM

so, Elodin, the only person you see as able to run the united states well would be... whom?

a far right republican who will protect the american peoples freedoms and damn all other nations to hell?

well i've got news for you. you might not like him, but every other nation actually likes obama! not just because he's the first black president, because he promises more than just "Gun rights and god" to the world.

I know what they say about vipers, that they tell lies to make themselves more lovely, but you know what? I would rather believe the lies of a socialist than listen to men whose soul, and I mean soul, motivation in life is to line their own pockets with money, no matter how dirty or bloody it is!


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posted October 16, 2009 08:13 PM

Elodin:
But then you're interfering with the landlord's pursuit of happiness.
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posted October 16, 2009 08:53 PM

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Shyranis:

You can't have a gun in Texas? Wow... that breaks a lot of urban myths we have here about America. Like "every American has a double-barred shotgun in his closet"



Peacemaker:

Must have missed it. I'll check it soon, right now GTG.






Not sure where you got that but yes you can have guns in Texas...
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posted October 16, 2009 09:19 PM

I think Doomforge confused "Texas" with "Private Property"
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posted October 16, 2009 09:41 PM

LOL!!!!
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posted October 16, 2009 10:39 PM

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I don't remember that you have a right to USE someone else's property if that person doesn't want you to and wants to kick you out.

As always, who's the hypocrite?


Certainly not me. I believe in keeping contracts. A lease agreement is an agreement between a landlord and a tenent for the tenent to lease the apartment for a ceertain period of time and is a legally binding contract.

So yes, if I were to sign a one year lease agreement, I have a RIGHT to live in the apartment for a one-year time period under the conditions specified in the contract.

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so, Elodin, the only person you see as able to run the united states well would be... whom?


There is not only one person capable of being a good president.

Palin would make a good president and is likely to be the next president if she runs. Obama is unlikely to be reelected and may be forced to step down as his connections to more and more communists becomes exposed. The mainstream media refuses to expose them but Fox and Beck keep plugging away and the mainstream media is losing its hypnotised audience as more and  more people are coming out of their trance and seeing the mainstream media for the state run socialist media that it is.

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But then you're interfering with the landlord's pursuit of happiness.
 

I already quoted the law about discrimination. You can't refuse to sell someone a hamburger because he is gay or refuse to rent to someone because she is black.
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posted October 16, 2009 10:47 PM
Edited by bixie at 23:05, 16 Oct 2009.

Fox and Beck are in the money of the republican press who would do anything to smear obama. they must be getting pretty desperate if they call up his teachers as possible socialists.

My geography teacher was an ex-mercenary, my chemistry teacher regularly taught us how to make bombs, our history teacher thought the communists did a better job at defeating hitler than the allies, and that was all in GCSE. in A-Level, my drama teacher regularly smoked pot, my sociologist was a member of the british communist party, my history teacher was a convicted shoplifter... if I become president, am I going to be pulled up on that by fox, if I run as a republican candidate?

as for palin making a good president... do me a favor and shoot the woman! she didn't know africa was a continent, her entire bases for campaign was "citchy local charm" and probably wouldn't have become a senator unless she wasn't running against the local horse! oh wait, she's a republican and thus beyond fault for you, eh, EH!

dude, shut up, close the browser and get back under the bridge where trolls like you belong!
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posted October 16, 2009 10:52 PM
Edited by Peacemaker at 22:55, 16 Oct 2009.

Not if you run as a Republican.

Elodin, why would Palin make a good president?  What, for instance, do you think she would do about the topic at hand in this thread?  Also, why do you think she would win if she ran?
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posted October 16, 2009 11:16 PM

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I already quoted the law about discrimination. You can't refuse to sell someone a hamburger because he is gay or refuse to rent to someone because she is black.
And here's our proof that conservatives don't care about property rights.
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posted October 16, 2009 11:21 PM

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There is not only one person capable of being a good president.

Palin would make a good president and is likely to be the next president if she runs. Obama is unlikely to be reelected and may be forced to step down as his connections to more and more communists becomes exposed.

The mainstream media refuses to expose them but Fox and Beck keep plugging away and the mainstream media is losing its hypnotised audience as more and  more people are coming out of their trance and seeing the mainstream media for the state run socialist media that it is.


Again a stripper pole is what she is good for not a real poll.

I agree with PM explain and backup why she would be a good president.
What kind of grandiose things will Palin do for our country, well she could gives tours of Russia from her backyard that could be be a plus.

Her only political experience has been what a few years as mayor of a small town in Alaska and less than two years as governor of a state of less than seven hundred thousand.

What possible reason could you have for supporting her running the country.  


Her record speaks volumes;the small town she left behind is now in financial ruin.

quote from Plain,

“If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance."

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892, Jesus.

One of many very off and unintelligent statements.

I can't imagine why anyone would listen to her speak on core issues and then come up with the idea, "Oh you should be our president!"



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posted October 16, 2009 11:22 PM

Oh Oh Oh, it's 5:00pm and I was just reminded of something. This thread is already all over the place so can I bring up a slight change in subject that's actually related? OK, I will.

The reason 5:00pm is important is because I live near a large military base. In a straight line it's maybe 3 miles or so from here. This isn't about the flag, it's about the national anthem that they play every day, and I can hear it this far away. From this distance it's not loud enough to really bother me, but I couldn't even imagine living next to the base and listening to that loud crap every day. If it were an individual or business, they would be violating noise ordinances and stopped.

People get concerned about who might take offense at a piece of cloth with certain color combinations. But what about neighbors, on their own property who have no choice but to hear this loud crap on a daily basis?

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posted October 16, 2009 11:57 PM
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A Jew has as much right to rent an aprtment as anyone else. A black has as much right to eat in a public restruant as anyone else.


Agreed. Sadly the laws do not protect everybody at eateries. There are places where anybody remotely Latino-looking will be asked for their papers or they'll get kicked out. Other places (even in New York City!) that use a "Dress Code" to kick out well dressed black people and keep their normal slobby clientele. Such practices should also be banned.

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My thread I can say it Elodin- The only "poll" that Palin
is good for is a stripper pole!!!


She is certainly more qualified than the socialist puppet Obama to be President.


Obama has 11 years of combined political experience as a Senator. 7 in Illinois, 4 in the main Senate. Palin had 2 years as governor and 6 as a small town mayor. They're both relatively unqualified but the experience speaks for itself. Obama is slightly more qualified if by an inkling, but he really still isn't Presidential material. She has connections to as many corrupt people as Obama does anyway.
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posted October 17, 2009 12:32 AM
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Certainly not me. I believe in keeping contracts. A lease agreement is an agreement between a landlord and a tenent for the tenent to lease the apartment for a ceertain period of time and is a legally binding contract.

So yes, if I were to sign a one year lease agreement, I have a RIGHT to live in the apartment for a one-year time period under the conditions specified in the contract.
Yes I understand that, but I'm talking about if it's specified in the contract that certain people aren't allowed. What you said about the hamburger further outlines it.

If someone doesn't want to sell something to someone (like blacks, as in the example), who are you (or the "evil government") to force him to sell it?

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People get concerned about who might take offense at a piece of cloth with certain color combinations. But what about neighbors, on their own property who have no choice but to hear this loud crap on a daily basis?
Did they try to sue the military?
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posted October 17, 2009 01:24 AM

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Fox and Beck are in the money of the republican press who would do anything to smear obama. they must be getting pretty desperate if they call up his teachers as possible socialists.


Nah, FOX is more fair than the other networks, which all worship Obama. And Beck gets on Republicans and Democrats. He is an independent conservative.

And certainly he is continuing to expose the self-avowed communists in the Obama administration. No suprise since Obama said he sought out Marxist professors and has blocked all access to his college records and thesis. Obama believes in redistribution of wealth from his own words on tape and camera.

There is nothing "possible" about the people Beck has identified as socialists or communists because he has them on video tape.

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dude, shut up, close the browser and get back under the bridge where trolls like you belong!


It is sad that you have to continually insult me instead of putting forth logical arguments to my points.


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as for palin making a good president... do me a favor and shoot the woman! she didn't know africa was a continent, her entire bases for campaign was "citchy local charm" and probably wouldn't have become a senator unless she wasn't running against the local horse! oh wait, she's a republican and thus beyond fault for you, eh, EH!


Yes, the National Socialist Party had the same policy. Kill those who disagree with you.

And actually, a loony liberal liar lied about Palin making the Africa comment. Many liberals love to lie about those they disagree with it seems.

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Elodin, why would Palin make a good president?  What, for instance, do you think she would do about the topic at hand in this thread?  Also, why do you think she would win if she ran?


First, she is not a socialist/communist, unlike Obama. She also seems to be an honest person, unlike Obama. Loony liberal liars kept throwing all kinds of false ethical violation charges at her (it seems many liberal loons love lying) by she kept on defeating them.

Palin also ran the biggest state in the Union. She cleaned up the corruption that was in Alaska. She is a conservative and respects the Constitution, unlike Obama (on both counts.)

I would suppose she would say that the landlord would have to abide by the contract and could not illegally alter the contract while it is in effect.

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And here's our proof that conservatives don't care about property rights.


No, it is proof that they believe in MORE THAN JUST property rights. If you enter into an agreement to lease a property to me you have to abide by the terms of the agreement. The property owner does not have the right to alter the terms of agreement while the lease is in effect.

I can't lease an apartment to you for $500 dollars and then in the middle of the lease change the payment required to $1000 even though I am the property owner. You have rights too.

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Again a stripper pole is what she is good for not a real poll.


Obama is not fit to feed my dog.

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What kind of grandiose things will Palin do for our country, well she could gives tours of Russia from her backyard that could be be a plus.


Actually, some loony liberal liar claimed she said they, basing the  claim on a Saturday Night Live skit (it seems many liberal loons love lying.)

Tina Fey (on the Saturday Night Live skit) said"I can see Russia from my house!"

Palin actual quote was: "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

And in fact you can see Russia from on of Alaska's islands according to CNN's Anderson Cooper, who is not exactly a conservative Palin supporter. Liberal lying loons proven wrong yet again. Be careful of listening to loons please.

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The island is called Little Diomede. It looks like a rock plopped into the Bering Strait. Only about 150 Alaskans live on the whole island. And just about two miles away; in full view of every single house on the island is the nation of Russia.


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Her only political experience has been what a few years as mayor of a small town in Alaska and less than two years as governor of a state of less than seven hundred thousand.


She was governor of the largest state in the US. Obama was a senator of Illinois, the most corrupt government in the US. And he was a US senator for less than 100 days before he started running for senate.

Obama missed tons of votes as a Senator. He was mostly just campaigning. And in the votes he did make he proved himself to be the most liberal senator in Contross. No suprise since he is a socialist.

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Her record speaks volumes;the small town she left behind is now in financial ruin.


It was not when she left it, but way to smear her with whatever her predessor did.

She was running 80+% approval rating in all of Alaska as the governor for her job performance.

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“If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance."

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892, Jesus.


She did not say the founding father wrote the Pledge of Allegence. She said that if "under God" was good enough for the founding fathers it is good enough for her. The founding fathers certainly expressed that sentiment.

And in fact, the pilgrims had the words "in God we trust" embroidered in the sails that brought them to America. But I would not expect a liberal to know that.

And certianly in the Declaration of Independence the founders mentioned God a number of times. But liberals doin't know that either.

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We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.


That sounds like one nation under God to me. And of couse they said God is the source of our rights. Rights are sacred because they come from God. God is our judge. We are under God.

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posted October 17, 2009 02:40 AM

What's so offensive about a flag anyway?

Flags don't kill people. One can have a problem with a nation's government, administration, recent activity or similar; but if he has a problem with its very flag just because it represents that nation, that means he has a problem with everything related to that country, its people etc; he is, thus, overly generalizing, and the landlord isn't doing anything good if he defends that extreme view.

Disclaimer: this, of course, goes only as long as the administration that man dislikes didn't invent the flag. For example, Hitler invented the red banner with a black swastika in a white circle; if I dislike him, I'll of course dislike that flag too. But I wouldn't have any problem with a flag invented by someone other than Nazis, which changed countless "owners" both good and bad.

The US flag has been used by better and worse administrations over time and there's no reason for me (or, IMO, anyone else) to feel any hate or dislike toward it. Toward certain cabinets, yes. But toward a 200 year old set of stars and stripes? That just doesn't make sense.
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Hmm, wonder how much Fox is paying attention to the Haliburton BS that is going on, and Beck.  My bet is as little as possible unless they are making excuses.  They wanted to string up Obama for Acorn, but I bet they will keep a low profile on this travisty.
Like I said I am not an Obama fan right now, but it is funny how things work in some peoples mind.  Both sides are hypocrits and just after the moola.
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posted October 17, 2009 11:24 AM

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Hmm, wonder how much Fox is paying attention to the Haliburton BS that is going on, and Beck.  My bet is as little as possible unless they are making excuses.  They wanted to string up Obama for Acorn, but I bet they will keep a low profile on this travisty.
Like I said I am not an Obama fan right now, but it is funny how things work in some peoples mind.  Both sides are hypocrits and just after the moola.
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well said

I hate american politican (you might disagree, and your right, obama is one of the less disreputable specimens to crawl it's way into the public attention) each and every one of them bend over for big business so that they don't appear socialist...

my question... what's wrong with socialism? it's become the bogeyman of american politics? Britain has socialist policies and I think it's working out alright... unless you want to have beef with that too, elodin, because let me tell you, at least when the NHS paramedics pick you up, they don't feel your wallet before checking your pulse.
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posted October 17, 2009 11:40 AM

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I already quoted the law about discrimination. You can't refuse to sell someone a hamburger because he is gay or refuse to rent to someone because she is black.
And here's our proof that conservatives don't care about property rights.
Incredible.....but expected...
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First, she is not a socialist/communist, unlike Obama. She also seems to be an honest person, unlike Obama. Loony liberal liars kept throwing all kinds of false ethical violation charges at her (it seems many liberal loons love lying) by she kept on defeating them.

Palin also ran the biggest state in the Union. She cleaned up the corruption that was in Alaska. She is a conservative and respects the Constitution, unlike Obama (on both counts.)



So that is all you got?

If those are the conditions...Hell, I could run as a republican candidate and you would probably vote for me
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