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ihor
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posted November 03, 2009 08:01 AM |
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I should only say: If there will be a work which could be done in 1 hour and you have to do it 100 times and spend 100 hours and you will probably not to decide to spend 10 hours for improving your speed to 30 minutes for this work and spend 60 hours instead.
Or maybe this entire post is a joke.
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Celfious
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From earth
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posted November 03, 2009 08:32 AM |
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beggining
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= done hope you had a good existance
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JoonasTo
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posted November 03, 2009 05:15 PM |
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1)Do you consider the problem of time management important?
Yes and no. Spending your time the best you can gets more out of your life. I know that. But somehow I just can't seem to care and laze off at things.
2)How do you find time? Do you sacrifice time for some work and use it to spend time here or do you turn your computer on and visit www.heroescommunity.com only when nothing to do?
Usually when I have nothing to do or when I'm doing something else on the pc but if it has been ages I check it to see what's going on.
3)How could you describe your typical proportion of spent time for job/studying/family/dating/friends/other duties/entartainment/rest. Maybe you add some other categories. And in which category do you place HC? What is HC for you?
What do you think ideal proportion?
Army is the deciding factor currently. Normal day looks like this:
duty 12,
sleep 8,
free time 3,
other duties(upholding equipment and myself) 1.
Free time goes mostly to resting, reading and, of course, HCing. Maybe twice a week I do sports for an hour. Then there's the weekends frees that I just do something random, usually women, friends, family or just laze off.
Now when I wasn't in the army normal day looked something like this(and will look like it again after a few months):
sleep 10,
work/school 8,
duties/travels 2,
free time 4.
From here you can see that I need more sleep than I get in the army. Free time goes to a lot of things. You get a better look at the situation if you look at the whole week:
sleep 70,
work/school 40,
duties/travels 16,
friends 15,
lazing off 12,
sports 11,
women 3,
family 1.
I need a lot of sleep, I know. Wish I could live with less but if I don't get enough sleep my sight, strenght, concentration, intelligence and resistance to diseases drop like a fly when shot with a double-barreled remington. So I'll take the sleep.
Not much I can do about school/work. Everyone must get a living. I try not to bring work home though.
Duties/travels include trips to school/work, household work, eating, hygiene and first aid, yes, first aid.
Friends and lazing off include same things like just chilling, fishing, hunting, movies, gaming, eating, drinking, hitting on chicks, etc. I meet them few times a week plus the times we do sports together.
Lazing off also includes HCing and reading on top of those.
Sports with or without friends include jogging or skiing almost every day and playing something with friends or training something few times a week.
Last two are quite obvious.
If I had a girlfriend things would change. Less lazing off, friends and sports. And around 15 or so for women. If you change my need for sleep to that of an average person and add it to other categories I think you've got the time divided pretty much ideally for a normal person.
4)Have you ever visited time management lessons? If so then say whether it helps, if not then just say what do you think about it?
No, I have never visited such lessons.
5)What have you done to improve your time management?
Nothing actively. Just gone with what I've gotten on along the way. I can read 300 pages in an hour, for example, Lord of the rings takes a little under four hours. I can eat fast, I shower fast, etc. I write and type slow though. Still I usually laze off on things and don't do them as fast as I could. That I should improve on.
6)Present your global thoughts what government can do to save time for every single citizen. Maybe some tasks should be done by robots instead of us. What investigations should be done? Do you think this is pressing problem for society?
Not much anything can be done. It is a pressing problem but there's nothing we can afford to do. Not because we need the money and because we can't afford to make the civisens even more lazy than they al ready are.
7)What do you like and don't like in the current education system in your country? Maybe more time should be spent for different subjects. For example learning foreign languages from 6 year old. Is it good?
I like the schooling here. It serves it's purpose well. Only thing I'd change would be the time schools start. Instead of starting at 8, 9 or 10 I'd make them always start at nine.
Managed to lose a huge amount of writing when this damn machine tilted a few times. Lesson learned, backup more often.
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Doomforge
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posted November 03, 2009 06:38 PM |
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such a pain that you waste most of the day and have only 3-4 hours max for yourself if you're living a "standard life" 
That's why I'm on a quest to live an nonstandard life 
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ihor
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posted November 04, 2009 08:10 AM |
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Army now is not for 20 years like in the XVIII century. 
So everything will normalize.
After army everything which is not sleeping, studying/working and duties could be considered as a free time. For example if you spend your free time on sports that means you like it and it is your free time.
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ohforfsake
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posted November 16, 2009 10:53 PM |
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I don't recall if I mentioned this earlier, but about getting better at something, in my experience, you often want to get better at something you're already doing (and have done for a somewhat long time).
When you've done it a somewhat long time, it often means you've a way of doing it already, if you want to get better, I think the best thing, in stead of risking starting all over, is to use these habits you've already got and build new layers of tools on top of these, which also thereby quickly will become habits.
The thing is, when you consciously have to do something, for a longer time, then the more you've to do, the higher risk there's for you not doing it right and it won't become a habit as quickly as you'd have wanted it, when you build on top of what you've already got, you'll most likely experience that it'll easier become a habit.
Then there're those bad habits, where you want to remove something that has become a routine because it maybe once was a very nice thing to do, and you've kept doing it, changing habits are often harder than getting new ones, the easiest way in my experience is to generate a trigger (by activating one of your senses, you form a habit of doing something), and then also make certain that the former habit is impossible to do in the period you try to form your new habit which is to take its place.
Then everytime you risk falling back, you can activate the trigger, and otherwise it's just like when forming the new habit, consciously awareness, and as long as doing the old is impossible for this period, you won't experience yourself doing the old automatically (fall back).
So small changes, relative to the habits you've already, smallest possible step at a time, and please avoid random (irrational) time limits, and stick with it, until it truely is a habit.
For making it easier for future attempts, it might be wise to try to form a "habit of changing habits", focused on you doing some random habit (you like e.g. playing computer games? Well play 1 game some time, a couple of days, each week. Change it then to something else in the same time period) over some time period. Then make a trigger of when you're going to change, then change, by generating such a trigger (can be anything that you can sense) I believe you'll have it much easier by changing habits in the future.
I think generally, all it's about is conditioning yourself so you can be effective in achieving what you want, so it's about conditioning yourself the best possible way.
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ihor
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posted November 17, 2009 08:24 AM |
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It is true that with good habits you can do your job faster. For example if you do some job for the first time or second - doesn't matter you spend a lot of time to think how to do that, but if you do that thousand times before you can do it like robot.
But on the other hand habits will not help for all types of jobs. For example Math or Science at all. Here you need non-standard out of box thinking and all bad habits, something usual things won't help you, because with usual thinking someone would did it before you for sure.
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OhforfSake
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posted March 14, 2014 04:34 PM |
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ihor said:
About that guy(Andriy Slyusarchuk)
I never really forgot about this thread (though don't ask me anything specific ), and now that I saw you again, I thought it'd be the optimal time.
For some 3 years ago, Slyusarchuk played the by then probably best chess engine on the market, Rybka ...and won! Though there were/are strong suspicions of foul play being involved. In any case, after seeing this character again and recognizing him as someone you wrote about earlier, how is your opinion about this character and time management in general here some 5.5 years later?
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted March 14, 2014 04:50 PM |
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1) Do you consider the problem of time management important?
Eh. Not really. So long as I make my deadlines, I am good.
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2) How do you find time? Do you sacrifice time for some work and use it to spend time here or do you turn your computer on and visit www.heroescommunity.com only when nothing to do?
I am not sure what you mean by the first part of the question. I sit in front of a computer screen 90% of the time at work, so I check many websites several times a day.
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3) How could you describe your typical proportion of spent time for job/studying/family/dating/friends/other duties/entartainment/rest. Maybe you add some other categories. And in which category do you place HC? What is HC for you?
What do you think ideal proportion?
Over the course of a week.
46 hours dedicated to sleep.
40 hours dedicated to work.
7 chores.
40 entertainment.
35 other.
Heroes Community is part of the entertainment. As to an ideal proportion, I cannot say.
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4) Have you ever visited such lessons? If so then say whether it helps, if not then just say what do you think about it?
I have never taken any time management courses.
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5) What have you done to improve your time management? For example maybe you completed a course of touch-typing to achieve typing speed 500cpm and it saves you let's say 3 hours a week. Something more important or more global?
Got married.
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6) Present your global thoughts what government can do to save time for every single citizen. Maybe some tasks should be done by robots instead of us. What investigations should be done? Do you think this is pressing problem for society?
I do not know why the government would concern itself with how its citizens manage their time. I do not believe having a robotic workforce would help anybody in regards to time management. If anything, more people would be laid off or otherwise out of work and have too much free time on their hand. I do not think it is an overly pressing matter at this time.
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7) What do you like and don't like in the current education system in your country? Maybe more time should be spent for different subjects. For example learning foreign languages from 6 year old. Is it good
I do not like very much about our current education system. Education always seems to be on the back burner of priorities. You'd think if we focused on education, we would be better prepared for the problems of tomorrow. Unfortunately, it appears our government and citizens would rather kick the can down the road and let the future generations deal with the fallout.
As to what can be changed? I do not know. I think we should focus more on cultivating a desire to learn rather than have a reward/penalty system for regurgitating information.
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Fauch
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posted March 14, 2014 07:09 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 19:48, 14 Mar 2014.
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1) Do you consider the problem of time management important?
is it a problem?
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2) How do you find time? Do you sacrifice time for some work and use it to spend time here or do you turn your computer on and visit www.heroescommunity.com only when nothing to do?
you can't find time, I have as much time as everyone else. I don't feel the need to have a schedule as full as it can possibly be.
3) How could you describe your typical proportion of spent time for job/studying/family/dating/friends/other duties/entartainment/rest. Maybe you add some other categories. And in which category do you place HC? What is HC for you?
What do you think ideal proportion?
my time is mostly spent on rest, entertainement and learning. there is a small part for socialization, but other people never have time anyway, so no need to get too bothered about it
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Recently I heared a lot about time management lessons. They are not free and I haven't visited any.
4) Have you ever visited such lessons? If so then say whether it helps, if not then just say what do you think about it?
sounds like waste of time
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5) What have you done to improve your time management? For example maybe you completed a course of touch-typing to achieve typing speed 500cpm and it saves you let's say 3 hours a week. Something more important or more global?
nothing, I feel no need for it.
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6) Present your global thoughts what government can do to save time for every single citizen. Maybe some tasks should be done by robots instead of us. What investigations should be done? Do you think this is pressing problem for society?
I don't think it is just about the government. a lot of people have a psychological need to always be busy, or they feel empty or something like that. but a better repartition of resources would help people waste less time on securing basic life necessities.
ohforfsake said:
however to do that the best way possible, I have some work to do, to achieve some goals, so yes, I sacrifice time, doing something for the future in stead of what I want in the moment, because I believe in the long run, it will be for the best.
oh yeah, people usually have projects, set goals. I rarely do that, I don't think much of the future, I rarely project myself. that's less things to worry about.
ihor said:
I should only say: If there will be a work which could be done in 1 hour and you have to do it 100 times and spend 100 hours and you will probably not to decide to spend 10 hours for improving your speed to 30 minutes for this work and spend 60 hours instead.
Or maybe this entire post is a joke.
but is there a point in using 10 hours for trying to get faster? the more you will do it, the faster you should become anyway, and without even having to worry about it.
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ihor
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posted March 14, 2014 09:41 PM |
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@Ohforf
Nah, that guy is now in jail! He was probably the most famous cheater few years ago, but now we started to forget him. The guy managed to fool a bunch of professors and even 2 presidents of Ukraine (such a shame!) who gave him some national awards. His case was investigated well by journalists who proved he has no neuro surgeon diploma and at least two men died after his "treating"...
Back to the topic
@OmegaDestroyer
Ha-ha. Have did the fact that you got married help you with time management? Man are you under control of your wife?
@Fauch
It looks like you think that time management is a waste of time. I strongly disagree with that point. Time is money, right? Don't you think it is logical to spend 1 day for preparing to some monotonous action and then execute it, say, for 1 hour, not 2 hours. In the long-term you will gain very good benefit. The same with some other things, mentioned in the thread. If you learned to type 2 times faster, you will afterwards have more time for other things.
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xerox
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posted March 14, 2014 09:45 PM |
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1. Personally, time management is important for me as I need to prioritise in order to be most productive.
2. To save time, I find places where I am most productive. I have found out that I can neither work efficiently with school work in the classroom nor at home. Instead, I've found out that it works best for me when I'm studying in the school's library. Outside of school, I'm doing political work and I generally try to stick to what's essential unless it's fun (which it usually is) or benefits me in some way (which it usually does).
3. Proportion of wake time (about 17 hours):
35% school, in class.
20% politics.
15% studying in library.
15% entertainemnt at home
5% news and such on the internet.
5% studying at home.
2.5% chores at home.
2.5% entertainment outside of home. (on occasion)
4. I have never been to a time managment class. I have not felt the need to manage time more efficiently than I do, though I'm probably going to reach that point in my life sooner or later
But I'm very much of a "doing it myself"-guy.
5. I work where I am most productive. I prioritize and do not attend things that I don't feel will benefit me.
6. Efficiency of production conserves time and it is something governments are terrible at achieving. We should have as much of a free market economy as possible to increase the pace of effectivization, which will continue to let people have more free time if they choose too.
7. School is great for social life but for a person who already seeks out a lot of knowledge on his own, like me, it is to a large extent, a waste of time when it comes education. I wish our school system was much more decentralized so there were more differences between schools. With today's system, most (there are exceptions, but they are high in demand and have long queues) are more or less the same with some minor variations.
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Over himself, over his own
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mind, the individual is
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ihor
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posted March 14, 2014 10:34 PM |
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@xerox
What kind of politics you do? It looks like you spend a lot of time on that. Do you think the time you spent on that won't be a waste and you will use that? Are you gonna to become a politican or what?
I would agree that 15% for entertainment is a good value, it might depend on your financial conditions though.
I have two more questions on the topic.
a) It is difficult to control your time in stress situation. For example during the most hot events in Kyiv, I was just reading news instead of working, hitting F5 every several minutes like a stupid robot. What is the correct way to handle this? What can be a good motivator?
b) I read some researches that moving from 8 hour working day to 6 hour working day, might even increase in work results in some occupations, like in IT, as you know you don't have a lot of time and you will not be easily digressed for browsing internet, facebooking and reading news during your work time. Also I saw many articles that disabling automatic email check and checking emails manually only two times a day can give a great lift in work efficiency. I know exactly what does it mean to be digressed when you are in a thinking process and that's why I kinda agree with the points. What do you guys think?
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Fauch
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posted March 15, 2014 12:47 AM |
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ihor said:
@Fauch
It looks like you think that time management is a waste of time. I strongly disagree with that point. Time is money, right? Don't you think it is logical to spend 1 day for preparing to some monotonous action and then execute it, say, for 1 hour, not 2 hours. In the long-term you will gain very good benefit. The same with some other things, mentioned in the thread. If you learned to type 2 times faster, you will afterwards have more time for other things.
Time is money... well, depends for who. it certainly is for people who have to sacrifice time for money. but actually it isn't true, time isn't money. we have absolutely no control over time. but some people have control over money. and people who believe that time is money are probably ones who have no control.
I have much free time. the problem is probably that people spend their time doing things they don't really want to do. otherwise, why would they want so bad to get them done quicker?
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Corribus
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted March 15, 2014 01:37 AM |
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Come on, OD, don't be shy. Here, let me help you.
OmegaDestroyer said:
Over the course of a week.
46 hours dedicated to sleep.
40 hours dedicated to work.
7 chores.
40 entertainment.
35 other sex.
Hmm... unless that was covered by entertainment?
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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smithey
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Yes im red, choke on it !!!
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posted March 15, 2014 02:38 PM |
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Corribus said:
Come on, OD, don't be shy. Here, let me help you.
OmegaDestroyer said:
Over the course of a week.
46 hours dedicated to sleep.
40 hours dedicated to work.
7 chores.
40 entertainment.
35 other sex.
Hmm... unless that was covered by entertainment?
Actually Omega is married hence sex falls under "chores" category
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She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better
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Fauch
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posted March 15, 2014 04:38 PM |
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nah, that's for his wife
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fred79
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posted March 15, 2014 05:55 PM |
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1) Do you consider the problem of time management important?
i never have. life isn't something that should be segmented, or rigidly planned. that's not living, that's compartmentalizing.
2) How do you find time? Do you sacrifice time for some work and use it to spend time here or do you turn your computer on and visit www.heroescommunity.com only when nothing to do?
i have had free time for 4 straight years now, since leaving the military. i was told i'd go crazy, not doing anything on a schedule, not planning, etc. i have loved every single day. sure, i get bored sometimes, but i was bored just as much when i was working. hc is one of the main places that i communicate with people online. rare is the day that i don't at least read what's going on here.
3) How could you describe your typical proportion of spent time for job/studying/family/dating/friends/other duties/entartainment/rest. Maybe you add some other categories. And in which category do you place HC? What is HC for you?
What do you think ideal proportion?
i spend most of my free time playing around with graphics for HoMM3. after recently unearthing my old artwork, i feel the urge to start drawing again(something that has become non-existent since getting out of the military). i've been considering taking pictures of my more people-friendly artwork, and posting it here, lately. hc is the outlet i use for my thoughts. at least, the more people-friendly ones.
Recently I heared a lot about time management lessons. They are not free and I haven't visited any.
4) Have you ever visited such lessons? If so then say whether it helps, if not then just say what do you think about it?
no. someone else teaching me what i should do with my time, is directly against my way of life.
5) What have you done to improve your time management? For example maybe you completed a course of touch-typing to achieve typing speed 500cpm and it saves you let's say 3 hours a week. Something more important or more global?
absolutely nothing. after a recent psyche eval, i have realized that i have taken it easy my entire life. the supposed common timeline people have used throughout their lives, has meant nothing to me. for instance, people usually get their license as soon as they turn 16, and get a job so that they can buy a car to drive during that same time. i didn't get a car until i was 21, and got the license after i got the car(i had been driving before that, though, to be honest).
i didn't start trying to do anything at all with my life until i was sick of the people around me, and realized that i was headed in a bad direction with my life. i joined the military, and did everything i could to get free time, and enjoy it, instead of furthering any career goals, the entire 7+ years i was in. 4 years out, and still nowhere. now, i have college coming soon, as a second go at making real money. it is my last chance to get a valuable education, to get a decent-paying job, just so i don't have to worry about bills anymore. everything else in my life is copasetic, with no need to manage anything at all.
6) Present your global thoughts what government can do to save time for every single citizen. Maybe some tasks should be done by robots instead of us. What investigations should be done? Do you think this is pressing problem for society?
the only "robots" i can think of, that should be doing the menial tasks, are the stupid and thoughtless.
7) What do you like and don't like in the current education system in your country? Maybe more time should be spent for different subjects. For example learning foreign languages from 6 year old. Is it good?
education sucks in the u.s. what's worse, is that nobody seems to care. the youth have a culture of "it's cool not knowing things." from proper grammar; to spelling; to civil, verbal communication. the list goes on and on, of what should be taken more seriously. the education system here is a joke, it doesn't prepare someone for the working world at all. the u.s. government seem to have no problem allowing americans to be thoughtless, uneducated, and actually willing to stay that way. it's one thing for people like me who see how everything humans do as utterly meaningless, it's entirely another for a braindead zombie who thoughtlessly buys everything they read, hear, etc. stupid people should HAVE to work. they are utterly useless, by any other means. they are the "robots" who should free up the time of more intelligent individuals, in my opinion. intelligence doesn't seem to be a thing much revered, in this country. stupidity, and complacence, on the other hand, seem to be the norm.
yes, foreign languages, and their cultures, should be studied MUCH more. i think, the way americans are raised now, and trained to think that the u.s. is the greatest nation on the face of the planet, no matter what our "leaders" do against other countries, is bull****. it is a seemingly endless cycle of "we're the best. why? because we ****ing say so", and it's a part of american culture that needs, wholly, to be jettisoned into the past, like all of the other failed culture mistakes, such as slavery.
yes, i am aware that i am a hypocrite. but, so's everyone else.
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Fauch
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posted March 15, 2014 06:42 PM |
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fred79 said:
i was told i'd go crazy, not doing anything on a schedule, not planning, etc. i have loved every single day.
lol, I remember some people being shocked when I said I had no schedule or plans.
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OhforfSake
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posted March 15, 2014 07:10 PM |
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Well one major issue with the lack of schedule or overall plan is that occasionally you might find yourself pondering how exactly you got to where you are. Remembering the last couple of hours, days, weeks or even months, until you finally nail what exactly went so wrong that you now find yourself in woman's clothing while a huge negro is fiercely pounding your exposed behind.
Now if you had a plan or merely a schedule, well... your current situation probably wouldn't be much different,.. but at least you could be confident in knowing that getting sodomized was your plan all along... and hey, you certainly wouldn't be distracted from your current experience through meditative self reflection.
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