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Mytical
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posted November 15, 2009 01:29 PM |
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Spanners (a thought experiment)
Ok this may one day turn into a game IF I get enough feedback on it. Right now, however, it is just a thought experiment.
Background - Year is 2020 in an 'alternate' time line for earth. It is a terminator like setting. Computers grew intelligent, decided to exterminate mankind, war happened. Unlike Terminators however, things are a bit more even. Neither side has the advantage .. Yet.
Now most electronic things are 'safe'. So vehicles, weapons, etc are still viable. However, if the robots get close enough they can 'jack' just about anything making it dangerous.
Much of what exist today exists in this future. A lot of towns have battle damage, and human population is dwindling, but mankind is surviving. For now. Everything is difficult to get and find, but not impossible. No futuristic weapons or anything, only the current weapons. Anything 'high tech' (except pulsars) have long been subverted by the Machines.
Characters - All are normal human. No powers, abilities, etc.
There are the 'spanners' - They are the 'warriors'. They are the 'blow em up and forget about them' type. As most weapons but the big ones (rocket launchers, grenade launchers, M-60's, etc) are useless on any Machine bigger then a dog. They normally rely on Pulsars. Which don't actually distroy machines, but can paralyze them temporarily..so that Hackers can get to them.
Hackers - Not much good for fighting, though they have pretty good reflexes. Almost always teamed up with at least a 'Spanner', and preferrably a 'Glitcher' they are the ones that can temporarily turn Machines to their side...if they can get close enough.
Glitcher (Cybernetic)- Information specialist. They have a Heads up display hard wired into one eye, and usually one cybernetic appendage. No more then two, however, because its too easy for machines to hack them with more. They can find information on just about anything. Blueprints, machine weaknesses, files on somebody they just met. Whatever. Not good fighters, and can't hack Machines..but they are deffinately needed as they know Machines weaknesses and such.
A few Machines are even allies (they do have advanced AI). However, I would limit which machines were playable and which not. Giant mechs ... not so much.
I am looking for tweaks (how you might want to see added, changed, or removed from this game), feedback, advice, and interest. It would be almost a 'mad max' meets 'terminator' type game.
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posted November 17, 2009 01:37 AM |
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Oh cool! I wanna do that!
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enamelity
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posted November 21, 2009 12:49 AM |
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This looks very interesting - count me in.
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Mytical
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posted November 21, 2009 06:08 AM |
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If we get a few more I will make a IC, still looking for feedback as well.
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posted November 21, 2009 05:14 PM |
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Needs very much teamwork to be succesfull.
Would need people to be online at the same time.
And is in a pretty popular RP timespan.
Doubt it's abilities to be succesfull.
Still interested.
How can you 'hack' a weapon? If it's mechanic, it can't be hacked.
It would need software to be hacked. So in other words high tech weaponry isn't out of the question but weapons involving high tech software are a liability. But things like missiles are so hard to access that they are still viable.
Is the conflict global or local? unrestricted or restricted? If the sides are even it's bound to be restricted(not counting some querilla action) and probably global.
Are humans exterminated on sight or used in slaves or something?
Just a few points that came into mind.
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posted November 21, 2009 07:34 PM |
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never been into stuff like this but i could do this...
Show me what you do with it.
Il read over the IC thread when it gets to 2 pages and il see if i like the direction.
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Mytical
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posted November 22, 2009 05:56 AM |
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Edited by Mytical at 06:03, 22 Nov 2009.
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The higher tech weaponry is all 'smart' weapons. Missiles rely on guidence systems, which can be hacked and their target changed. Now things like machine guns, granades, etc are not hackable. Anything that requires a guidence system, is 'fire and forget', or such is indeed not safe. Of course now, you can 'reprogramm' weapons if you can get them, and only if a machine comes in contact with it afterward would you have to worry about it.
It is global, and not exactly even. The machines are winning. They can reproduce a LOT faster, and don't need to rest/sleep/etc. The only up side is limited energy resources limit their numbers. Also unlike terminators, they can not pass as human. Although they have 'humanoid' varients..they are obvious machines.
They exterminate humans on site, except the few friendly ones. They also don't care if their own troops are caught in the crossfire. Everything is expendable. They will blow up one of their own factories if it will eliminate enough humans.
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JoonasTo
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posted November 22, 2009 07:39 AM |
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The higher tech weaponry is all 'smart' weapons. Missiles rely on guidence systems, which can be hacked and their target changed. Now things like machine guns, granades, etc are not hackable. Anything that requires a guidence system, is 'fire and forget', or such is indeed not safe. Of course now, you can 'reprogramm' weapons if you can get them, and only if a machine comes in contact with it afterward would you have to worry about it.
Just what I was going for. High tech weaponry is still usable but has to be protected, like it has always had to be. After firing something like a missile I'd like to see the robot that can hack it.
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It is global, and not exactly even. The machines are winning. They can reproduce a LOT faster, and don't need to rest/sleep/etc. The only up side is limited energy resources limit their numbers. Also unlike terminators, they can not pass as human. Although they have 'humanoid' varients..they are obvious machines.
So is it restricted? Are there so called 'safe areas' or is every piece of land a battlefield? Is there a defense line(s) or is it just random conflicts everywhere and anywhere?
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They exterminate humans on site, except the few friendly ones. They also don't care if their own troops are caught in the crossfire. Everything is expendable. They will blow up one of their own factories if it will eliminate enough humans.
Naturally. Humans work that way too.
Friendly?
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Mytical
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posted November 22, 2009 07:42 AM |
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Edited by Mytical at 07:43, 22 Nov 2009.
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Conflict is everywhere. Not really any safe areas, although you can find an odd hiding spot here and there. Any large gathering of people is a painting a huge bullseye and saying "Come kill us."
Yes, the Machines have Artifical Intelligence. So some of them are NOT out to destroy everything not mechanical. Very few of them are friendly however.
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JoonasTo
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posted November 22, 2009 08:41 AM |
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So it is like terminator after all. People hiding and playing guerilla warfare. That is far from even. It's like usa in afghanistan except that usa has given up. Am I on right track?
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posted November 22, 2009 08:43 AM |
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Aside from the fact that I'm in enough RP's currently, I'm not really a fan of Terminator. As such, this one just isn't gaining my interest. I suppose if it was more going the lines of the ShadowRun tabletop RPG, I might consider jumping in.
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Mytical
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posted November 22, 2009 08:45 AM |
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Well don't know about the USA bit, but yeah..for now. The Spanners, Hackers, Etc are relitively new. Humans were caught totally off guard, and were almost totally destroyed. Now they have a means of fighting back, having recently created the Plasma weapons and finding a way to (even if temporarily) turn the robots to helping them (by hacking them).
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Mytical
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posted November 22, 2009 08:46 AM |
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Lol in honesty it is a bit of both. A bit from shadowrun, a bit from Terminator. Those were the inspiration for this game.
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posted November 22, 2009 08:53 AM |
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Well, I have a troll adept that is nearly complete that could be destroyed by some of them more massive machine. Thing is, there are no trolls, and no adepts.
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Mytical
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posted November 22, 2009 08:56 AM |
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Although I have played Shadowrun, it has been forever ago and I am no longer familar with the workings of it I am afraid.
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posted November 22, 2009 02:24 PM |
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What about missiles that have no guidance system? we can still fire them?
And btw, do the same cultures apply? Ie Russian, British, Scotish etc?
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Mytical
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posted November 23, 2009 06:51 AM |
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Yes, same cultures, this is not set in the distant future or anything. However, society has sort of fell apart, so culture is irrelivent for the most part. Yes, rocket launchers granade launchers, etc are viable. Just remember that almost everything is going to be rather difficult to come by. Not impossible, but finding crates of rockets, etc is just not going to happen.
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