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Lord_Woock
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posted November 24, 2009 08:08 PM

Actually, if we stay true to Machiavelli's intent, then there is nothing selfish about it at all .
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B-E-T-A
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posted November 24, 2009 08:14 PM
Edited by B-E-T-A at 20:17, 24 Nov 2009.

Ohh? How come?

Edit: Actually, started reading about the book on wikipedia. So far it seems like "Maintain your country. Maintain your power"
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Lord_Woock
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posted November 24, 2009 08:24 PM
Edited by Lord_Woock at 12:49, 28 Nov 2009.

Yes, but the power is to serve the country, not vice versa. The book tells you how to be a good prince to help you keep your country strong, not to keep you feeding off it.

EDIT: Lordy, this post turned out way longer than expected!

EDIT2: Updated philosophical abilities.

EDIT3: "Razortongue"?
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DagothGares
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posted November 28, 2009 12:58 PM

Yes, and I'm sticking by it

I also decided that I just stuck too much to the philosophy and didn't create a character, while doing so. If I stray from what stoicism stands for... Well, you cn always point it out, but I probably stopped caring for it at that point
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posted November 28, 2009 06:48 PM

Sorry, have been gone the two last days, but I've decided to be in the machiavellian philosophy. Will now try to think up powers for this philosophy(if you have any suggestions, feel free to suggest).
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posted November 29, 2009 06:34 PM

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His name is something like Defour, and he created a race of constructed beings known as the Toms.

Say what now?
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posted December 01, 2009 10:18 PM

Hey, let's get some more posting going!
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posted December 02, 2009 03:35 PM

Sry guys, but school kinda caught up to me so right now I am drowing in homework. But I'll be back with a full fledged character as soon as possible.
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posted December 03, 2009 05:11 PM
Edited by B-E-T-A at 22:42, 03 Dec 2009.

Talked to dagoth and my Philosopher is finnished:

Name: Char
Age: 34
Sex: Male
Philosophical title: Machiavellist
Philosophical abilities:
"The end justifies the means" - The user can kill other Philosophers and steal their powers. He cannot evolve these powers however.
"Princeps aura"("First Man/Emperor's Aura") - The soldiers serving the user of this skill has no fear
"Masked deciver" - Ability to completely change ones apperance. Cannot however, change gender or species.
Other abilities:
Politically Experienced - +X to silver tounge skill!
Nobility - Has a private army of redshirts.
Rapier/Sword Skill - Good in the use of the sword and especially the rapier(not as good as a sword master however)
Medium armor - Wears medium armor, like chain with somewhat plating. You know, the common nobility armor.
Alignment: Wannabe-Lawful Neutral. In other words, wannabe the law.
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mvassilev
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posted December 04, 2009 08:13 AM

Quote:
Talked to dagoth and my Philosopher is finnished:

Name: Char

A CHAR!
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posted December 04, 2009 09:55 AM

Actually, the name is stolen from the magma experiment monster from "Rise of the Crimson Sun". A map made by a friend of mine.
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Sir_Dragon
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posted December 04, 2009 03:51 PM

I'm just wondering. Could militarism be considered as a philosophy?

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mvassilev
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posted December 04, 2009 04:56 PM

I suppose so. We have pretty loose criteria.
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posted December 04, 2009 06:39 PM
Edited by B-E-T-A at 18:41, 04 Dec 2009.

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I suppose so. We have pretty loose criteria.


I see...Does that mean that we could even use mvassilisme(or whatever Bakalava created the one time in the volcanic wastelansds)?

Joke aside; Dagoth told me about something called the "Paltonic republic" which you guys decided I was gonna be a general of. And that my current objective is to chase down Woock's character. Is that true(not that I doubt dagoth but..)? ohh, and why should I do that again? I am sorry but I just forgot what kinda of papers Woock's character had that was so important.
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 04, 2009 07:24 PM

Well, the story obviously needs some sort of conflict to develop properly.

In Xenostenes's conversation with Marcus, Xeno tossed a loose comment about the Platonic Republic getting out of hand.

While talking do Dagoth, I had an idea for a past event that might help define the conflict to drive the story.

I took two historical facts:
a) the Pythagorean theory of numbers as the basis of all existence is seen by some as a form of pre-atomism.
b) Plato hated Democritus (who was taught by Leukippos, generally accepted as the inventor of atomism) greatly, to the point of wanting to burn all of his works in a fit of rage. Luckily, his students persuaded him to abandon the notion. Our rp doesn't have to follow this bit though.

So the idea is that the Platonic Republic raided the Pythagorean Order (a minding-our-own-business scientific and religious group), knowing that they are in possession of the last remaining works of Democritus. The place gets trashed completely.

Xenostenes knows all of this because he was there (actual reason for his presence not yet decided). Out of curiosity, he decides to sneak out with some of the papers and currently resides at Marcus's place. The Platonic Republic eventually finds out.

A machiavellian character could be a good ruler of the Republic, posing as a platonist "for the good of the state".

So yeah, that's more or less what I had in mind.

It's okay to mention Plato and Democritus as historical background, right?

(Am I stuffing this with too many references to real-world philosophy?)
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Keksimaton
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posted December 04, 2009 07:53 PM

Sounds halfway reasonable I guess. How will we get BB's character involved?
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posted December 04, 2009 08:23 PM

@Woock; It all makes sense to me now. Well, except that I thought I was a general, not the leader
maybe one of the leaders but...well, anyway it all makes sense.
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 04, 2009 08:25 PM

One of the leaders as opposed to absolute ruler would actually be more accurate in regard to Plato's "Republic", so I'm all for that
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posted December 04, 2009 09:02 PM

Exactly. Of course, I am all for "Take all the power and make it a monarchy/empire/you-get-the-bloody-point"

Well, time for me to get on constructing a post worth posting
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Sir_Dragon
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posted December 05, 2009 12:59 AM

Great. Let me you just think up a character and then i'm ready to rumble

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