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Thread: WCL: Multiple league tournament 2010 This thread is 12 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 · «PREV / NEXT»
liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted April 21, 2010 03:38 PM

Quote:
 Probability of hard block is increased. Maybe we should consider lvl 7 from POS too.


I suggest:

1. You should have at least 1open road with reasonable guards, wich lead to a village.


2. You shoud have at least 1 entrence to the desert on road. Rarely the entrence to the desert is through the rocks, wich slows you enourmously.

To avoid waste of time, it may be considered sending the map to a trusted third person, who will check for blocks.

About POS - i am open to everything. With, or without level 7.
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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted April 21, 2010 05:59 PM

For POS, i suggest following rule:

- POS is allowed to build in any dungeon town, but you can recruit level 7 monster from POS only in your starting town.

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fank0
fank0


Known Hero
There are no limits
posted April 22, 2010 10:27 AM

Those suggestions sound OK to me.

What about suiciding high level heroes with armagedon, implosion, chain lightning with the purpose of killing off some enemy army ? This does not fall under no Hit and Run rules and can be game winning.
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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted April 22, 2010 12:40 PM

Quote:
Those suggestions sound OK to me.

What about suiciding high level heroes with armagedon, implosion, chain lightning with the purpose of killing off some enemy army ? This does not fall under no Hit and Run rules and can be game winning.


I think it was discussed already. Its not allowed.

The question remains though, since we are under WCL rules, is it allowed to suicide level 10 hero and bellow. And is it allowed to suicide level 11+ hero with lightning bold or magic arrow.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted April 22, 2010 02:11 PM

Quote:
And is it allowed to suicide level 11+ hero with lightning bold or magic arrow.

do you consider it's more disbalancing than Red Orb? or Earth tome? which are allowed
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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted April 22, 2010 02:22 PM

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do you consider it's more disbalancing than Red Orb? or Earth tome? which are allowed


Not at all. In most of my games we play with level 30 suiciders.

I am just asking, because its in the WCL Rules, but i didnt know how precisly we will follow them, because there was big discusion about the Hit-Run rule.

So, now its clear, Hit-Run - as its in WCL.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted April 24, 2010 09:34 AM

Changes in Jebus rules:
- POS is allowed to build in any dungeon town, but you can recruit level 7 monster from POS only in your starting town.
Restarts:
- 2 restarts with no reason - on own turn 111 or on own turn 113. Any additional restarts - if map is extremely blocked; decision will be made by opponent.
H-n-r rule is:
- Fleeing or surrendering from combat is not allowed in the first round if you have cast offensive magic. Does not matter if you attacker or defender.

You may agree about any changes in rules personally.
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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted April 24, 2010 11:04 AM

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- 2 restarts with no reason - on own turn 111 or on own turn 113. Any additional restarts - if map is extremely blocked; decision will be made by opponent.



In WCL there is only 1 restart. Here we have 2?

I am afraid too many restarts will kill the whole sunday, and for some of us time is a factor.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted April 24, 2010 11:05 AM

Rules:
HP rules of SoD (changes from HW rules highlighted with red color):

0) Template is 2sm4d(3), size L+U, human players 2, computer players 0, difficulty 160%, no water, strong monsters, time limit 6 minutes.
Players choose towns and colors according to the following procedure. Towns, available for selection are reduced by 1 by each player, turn-by-turn. It's not allowed to pick same town types. When 3 towns are left, player chooses town which he will play and his opponent chooses from the rest 2 towns. Player, who chooses from 2 towns, chooses the color. Example:
invisible - Conflux
vbn - Necropolis
invisible - Fortress
vbn - Stronghold
invisible - Rampart
vbn - Castle
The rest towns are Tower, Inferno and Dungeon. invisible: "I choose Inferno", vbn: "I choose Dungeon and red color".
0.1) Starting heroes:  Conflux /Necropolis start with random hero, other towns - pick;
1) Restarts:
Players must take restart:
- if player has only 1 road to Main Guard (big guard between players)
- if starting hero is not Level 1.
- if player has more than 1 starting town.
- if starting town hasn't Fort.
- if players have battle between them during first 5,6,7 turns (fastest, average, dirt roads accordingy). But, if both players agree, they can continue their game.
player can take 1 restart with no reason during 1st own turn.
player can take 1 restart with no reason during 3rd own turn.

2) Interdictions:
2.0 Can't get advanced Diplo; if hero get's Adv Diplo - must be dismissed till end of turn
2.1 Banned hero - Sir Mullich. If this hero has 4rd level and higher - player must dismiss him till end of turn.
2.2 Heroes-specialists of magic 4-5 level and Thant can use their magic against opponent in the following situations:
a) You have Magic Guild 4 level for 4-level magic and Magic Guild 5 level for 5-level magic. If you can't build Magic Guild 4-5 level in your town (Fortress, Stronghold and Castle) - you must build all Magic Guild's levels in any 2 of your towns. Or you must take opponent's town with necessary Magic Guild level (it's not necessary to visit this town by magic specialist).
b) You visited any place where you could learn this magic, or took it from Pandora's Box or Magic Book.
This heroes can use their special magic against any neutrals.
c) You can transfer high-level spells from specialists to other heroes by Scholar skill, but hero who learned such spell can use it against neutrals and opponent only if 2.2a or 2.2b conditions are fulfilled.
2.3 Isra and Vidomina can't take Expert Necromancy. If they take it - player must dismiss these heroes till end of turn.
2.4 If player rescue Mullich > 3 level or Isra or Vidomina with Expert Necromancy from prison - player must dismiss them till end of turn.
If player buy Mullich > 3 level or Isra or Vidomina with Expert Necromancy from tavern - player must dismiss them during next 4 turns.
Player can't buy Mullich > 3 level or Isra or Vidomina with Expert Necromancy in tavern after their capitulation.
2.5 No Red Rush (Red player can't attack Blue heroes or towns or guarded mines or flag Blue's unguarded town on Day 1 of ANY week using some NEW army (army brought with new heroes, from dwellings, Pandoras, hives, conservatories, portals of summoning is NOT considered as NEW))
2.6 No Hit & Run. Attacking hero can't flee in round 1 if he used some magic of direct damage. Defending hero can cast a spell and run away.
2.7 No Joiners (you can''t join wandering monsters even without Diplomacy skill).
2.8 You can use Scrolls Level 4 - 5, but you must build corresponding level of Magic Guild. If you can't build necessary Magic Guild's level in your town - you must build all Magic Guild's levels in any 2 of your towns. Or you must take opponent's town with necessary Magic Guild level (it's not necessary to visit this town by magic specialist). You may use any Scrolls Level 4 - 5 without building mage guild on week 6 and later
2.9 Heroes can use DD only one time a day.
2.10 Free to use Angle Wings.
2.11 No Hillfort and Carto.
2.12 Must Fight misplaced guards. If there is no guard between zones - you can move between zones.
2.13 Must Fight misplaced guards of Pandora's Boxes, Arts and any other objects. You can take chests and resources without guards fighting. With DD, Fly or Wings you still need to fight zone guard, guard of map object/artifact/pandora.
2.14 No Cloak of the Undead King and Angel Alliance.
2.15 You can dig Grail after 5 week of game.
2.16 No upgrade of 1, 6 and 7 unit levels in Conflux. Starting hero in Conflux must be random.
2.17 No Necromancy Amplifier in Necropolis.
2.18 Free to use Mercenary Camp

3. If battle ends in a draw - then attacking player must flee (even if attacking player has better army).
Example: attacking player has horde of Golems and can't kill 1 Ghost dragon which flies away.
In "shackles present during draw battle" condition it is necessary to load last savegame, repeat exactly all moves until the draw battle, dismiss army, killed in battle. Than it's necessary to remove shackles, attacking hero must attack and flee or surrender.
In the case of disconnect player has to end his turn and make a save. Than the game continues from loading this save. In the case of program crash the game continues from autosave of inactive player. If connection was lost during the fight, all moves must be repeated after loading.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted April 24, 2010 11:07 AM
Edited by SAG at 09:38, 25 Apr 2010.

Quote:
I am afraid too many restarts will kill the whole sunday, and for some of us time is a factor.

You may agree about any changes in rules personally.
I bet next time will be easier to agree about rules...

jesus lost his last game. Again (3d time!!! ) we allowed opponents to select Rampart+Kyrre and now tourney score is 3:4...updated first post;
hoping Liophy can make score 4:4
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maretti
maretti


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted April 25, 2010 12:40 PM

Unfair decision was made in that game. You can keep the official score as you want but in my book we are ahead 4-3.
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suicidpeiarba
suicidpeiarba


Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
posted April 25, 2010 12:51 PM

Quote:
Unfair decision was made in that game. You can keep the official score as you want but in my book we are ahead 4-3.


Right. But don't worry friend, there are still chances. Let's hope that Liophy will win and than a decisive game at 4-4.

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i_love_jesus
i_love_jesus

Tavern Dweller
posted April 25, 2010 04:22 PM
Edited by i_love_jesus at 16:22, 25 Apr 2010.

I lost 2 game continuously

He is pretty better at eliminating than me.
It's why he got kyree again.

I asked him restart 2times and 3rd map was very poor, too.
I build roc + cidadel in 1weeks.

He has more experience on the template.
I need more experience in eliminating and the temp.

I hope all random game if i can
And hope delete the restart rules.  - 1.1.1 & 1.1.3



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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted April 25, 2010 06:46 PM
Edited by SAG at 19:03, 25 Apr 2010.

Quote:

He has more experience on the template.
I need more experience in eliminating and the temp.


this tournament was made to exchange experience in different templates and different rules. Anyway, thanks for your games and team spirit I hope that next time you will win
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suicidpeiarba
suicidpeiarba


Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
posted April 27, 2010 12:07 AM

Quote:
Quote:

He has more experience on the template.
I need more experience in eliminating and the temp.


this tournament was made to exchange experience in different templates and different rules. Anyway, thanks for your games and team spirit I hope that next time you will win


Nothing new? Lebron still plays Poker? i think we can ask for another opponent.
Otherwise let's fix if 4-4 result, if they want a final game. If yes, than we will see how we select the opponents.

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maretti
maretti


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted May 03, 2010 10:00 PM

Could you give me an emailadress or something on my opponent so that I can set up the game?

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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted May 05, 2010 10:17 AM

My game with Medium has started. Unfortunately we couldnt finish and saved. Now he is gone for a week. So the game will be finished not before 12.05.2010.
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suicidpeiarba
suicidpeiarba


Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
posted May 08, 2010 08:42 AM

Quote:
Quote:

He has more experience on the template.
I need more experience in eliminating and the temp.


this tournament was made to exchange experience in different templates and different rules. Anyway, thanks for your games and team spirit I hope that next time you will win


Hmm.. It seems that all are sleeping. Other teems already finished their matches.

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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted May 15, 2010 11:18 PM

I won my game against medium.

Me Inferno, Shakti. Him - Rampart, Ivor.

I broke into the dessert 2 days before him. Decisive battle 127. Then we played another 4 days, but it was doomed.

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i_love_jesus
i_love_jesus

Tavern Dweller
posted May 16, 2010 07:06 AM

Quote:
I won my game against medium.



Congratuation your win

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