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vladud2000
vladud2000


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Maestro of Might & Magic
posted December 15, 2009 10:26 AM
Edited by vladud2000 at 18:51, 21 Dec 2009.

Drow project for the WOG 3.59

I saw a post here about this project but the subject was in russian...
So decide to write down an english version.


Mine idea is to create a new town for the Heroes WOG 3.59 - a drow town.
Concept:
Drow or Dark Elves, a new race that leaves deep, very deep underground. They are cruel, arrogant, mean but got feelings too. They like gold and a power. Drows are good sorcerers and assassins.

(have no time to write a whole texts here)

Creatures:
Creatures of Drow are rather difficult to animate so not many of them are done today but here they are:

Spider Lord: an army leader. A fighter charecter (as you probably know there would be 2 commanders avaible in WOG 3.59 - a fighter and a mage).

Abilities:
passive: increase a power of all offensive magics of the hero.
active: can cast "insanity" all defence goes to attack.

High Prieastess:an army leader. A mage class.
*no final concept yet*
Abilities:
passive: sacred magic ability. every attack of the priestess she do additional magical attack. power of magical attack affected by her magic power and hero's sorcery.
active: casts antimagic.

1st level:
Shadows and Twilights. Fast and strong. Twilights got an ability to teleport and uses ranged poison wrist crossbows.

abilities:
strike and return
enemy do not react

abilities:
strike and return
enemy do not react
can shoot
poison hit and shot
teleportation
2nd level:
Duelists and Blade Masters. Agile and fast charecters, armed with 2 blades. They not so defensove but got a good damage. Blade Masters uses a "combat move" that allow them to attack all the opponents near them.

abilities:
evasion (15% to evade all damage)

abilities:
evasion (25% to evade all damage)
combat move (attack all opponents arround)
3rd level:
Hand-wings and Deathbringers. Mighty flying fortreses. Someone thinks that it is a hybrid of a wyvern and black dragon. got ability to vampire health and spread decise and venom.

abilities:
fly
decease
vampirism

abilities:
fly
decease
vampirism
poison
fearsome
4th level:
Not sure about this level...No any DEF files were done here. Only a concept.
lizard riders

5th level:
Not sure about this level...No any DEF files were done here. Only a concept. Also the model is too difficult to be done cause I think it will be replaced...
Drider

abilities:
summon spider guards
can shoot
casts slow with shots
paralyze in melee
casts resurrection

upgraded abilities:
summon spider guards (black widows)
can shoot
casts slow with shots
can poison with every attacks\shots
paralyze in melee
casts resurrection
magic arrows (every shot can hold offecnive spell)
6th level:
No any DEF files were done here. Only a concept. Model in progress...
Draegloth

abilities:
fearsome
no enemy reaction
attack 3 enemies infront of him (cerberus)
lightning fury (have 1 destructive lightning spell)
7th level:
Not sure about this level...No any DEF files were done here. Only a concept.
Torrasques

immunity to all enemy spells
extra strong
eating (killed enemies canno be resurrected during or after combat. skeletons too).
tremor (have a chance to stomp the ground and damage all enemies next to it)
earthquake (can ruin the walls)
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Thats all for now.
Will be glad if someone would help in creating a town screen

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted December 15, 2009 10:33 AM

Very nice looking. Do you use Gmax or 3Dsmax to animate/create your models? For the town screen, just hire Astaroth.
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Dairy
Dairy


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posted December 15, 2009 10:40 AM

I have to admit your work is really awesome. The animation is so smooth and the creatures looks really good lookin' and eyes-catching.

Do you work all alone ?

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vladud2000
vladud2000


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Maestro of Might & Magic
posted December 15, 2009 10:41 AM
Edited by vladud2000 at 10:45, 15 Dec 2009.

ôää of them a "frankenstein monsters" created with a mixing different ready parts and bodyparts... for example a "draegloth" - consists of 2 male bodies (upper body + little chest hands) and 2 wolf\werewolf parts (legs + head), and 7 pieces of animated hair.
And this is not MAX or GMAX - cause it is too difficult and reqire much time...and this monsters were done in a record speed - 3 hours from a zero!!!
It a Poser man.
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Yes, I'm working alone. Noone can support this project graphically
It is not so hard if you got an idea and experience in animating sectain creatures...I do not have experience in animating spiders...cause drider is the hardest model for me...other ones were posed and rendered in about 2 hours.
And not forget about MM6 MOD - The Chaos Conspiracy!!! All new graphics there are mine too
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted December 15, 2009 10:44 AM

Oh man, the day when you will post a guide on how to do that, we will bow to you...we need this kind of knowledge so much.
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Ayreon
Ayreon


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posted December 15, 2009 10:45 AM

Quote:
They are cruel, arrogant, mean but got feelings too.


They got feelings? I hope the accompanying campaign won't become a soap
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vladud2000
vladud2000


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posted December 15, 2009 10:48 AM

Quote:
Quote:
They are cruel, arrogant, mean but got feelings too.


They got feelings? I hope the accompanying campaign won't become a soap

Campaing is not totally solved but there will be a story of love of two drows (romeo & juliet if you wish) at the BG of a might wars and searching the crystal moon (grail). a little bit traitory, a little bit assassinations...
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gnollking
gnollking


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posted December 15, 2009 11:30 AM

Very good job .
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angelito
angelito


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posted December 15, 2009 11:48 AM

I like those animations too. Maybe a bit more color here and there would make them less evil


But I would try to find a new name for your lizard riders. Lizards just belong to fortress....
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baklava
baklava


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posted December 15, 2009 11:54 AM
Edited by baklava at 11:55, 15 Dec 2009.

Raptor riders, perhaps?

Excellent work by the way

Oh and,
Quote:
3rd level:
Hand-wings and Deathbringers. Mighty flying fortreses. Someone thinks that it is a hybrid of a wyvern and black dragon.

...at level 3?
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted December 15, 2009 11:57 AM

There is another thing to keep in mind when speaking about colors: all terrains layout were made regardless the original races layout. Town as Grove or Drow either keep regular colors or several terrains need to be replaced. But then the editor will look awful, because of objects not fitting anymore in their mother terrain.
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vladud2000
vladud2000


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posted December 15, 2009 12:54 PM

Quote:
I like those animations too. Maybe a bit more color here and there would make them less evil


But I would try to find a new name for your lizard riders. Lizards just belong to fortress....

actually they are remaded now.
i've changed the lightning and now models looks much better.
i just added some animated GIFs to show how it's done.
examples of remaded ones:

not so dark i guess
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kesnar
kesnar


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posted December 15, 2009 04:58 PM

Really nice...I hope you finish it...but I believe you have to change the levels of some creatures and their abilities...namely the assasins(teleporting) and deathbringers(too many abilities and, as baklava said, too low on the levels)...
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vladud2000
vladud2000


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posted December 15, 2009 05:54 PM

drows are most powerfull warriors in whole Heroes 3.
they got more strength and damage and other statistics...but in compinsation - costs much more, armies are not so big.

balancing is not a primary work. i want to complete whole creatures first and time-to-time rebalance them.
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Lord_Immortal
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posted December 20, 2009 10:00 AM
Edited by Lord_Immortal at 10:08, 20 Dec 2009.

The Driders need to be "more realistic".You know,their spider part is not spiderish.Try playing Neverwinter Nights 1:Hordes of the Underdark.There are Drider and Drider chiefs.As for that lumbering 7th level creature I suggest the Umber Hulks.
EDIT:
The drow town lacks of archers.That Lizard Rider of 4th level should be a drow archer while that Draegloth of the 6th level must be a drow sorceress.

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vladud2000
vladud2000


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posted December 21, 2009 06:38 PM

Quote:
The Driders need to be "more realistic".You know,their spider part is not spiderish.Try playing Neverwinter Nights 1:Hordes of the Underdark.There are Drider and Drider chiefs.As for that lumbering 7th level creature I suggest the Umber Hulks.
EDIT:
The drow town lacks of archers.That Lizard Rider of 4th level should be a drow archer while that Draegloth of the 6th level must be a drow sorceress.


actually they got enough archers...
1st level (twilights) can shoot and got the ability to poison.
5th level (drider) can shoot and conjure. also summon spider guards (like santa gremlins) + cast slow\paralyze on targets and got friendly spells
6th level (draegloth) is a melee warrior...but can cast strong offensive magic too.
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also drows are more powerfull than others the same level and they got more abilities and magics than other towns. i'll try to describe their abilities soon in first post.
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Lord_Immortal
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posted December 24, 2009 03:07 PM

Draegloths have 4 hands at a picture I have seen,and also a more demonic apparence.Here:
And they are part of the Tanar'ri demons.

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vladud2000
vladud2000


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posted December 28, 2009 10:01 AM

so what do you want me to do with this picture? i use it while was doing my version of draegloth and i think that mine looks similar or near that one.
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Dairy
Dairy


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posted December 28, 2009 01:01 PM

I love Vladud's version much more, looks more werewolfish.

And his version got 4 arms as well... can't you see it ?

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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posted December 28, 2009 05:11 PM

Oh yes,now that you told me.Until now,I thought it was a belt.

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