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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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DoR Dev Team
posted January 17, 2010 11:27 AM
Edited by Lord_Immortal at 11:04, 23 Jan 2010.

My Wake of Gods Idea

Hello there,I posted this idea in the CoreWog forums too,but they didn't liked it.This a bunch of creatures when we find how to add them as new.

The Cordrillion monster is written wrong,beacause it is Kordrion.Also here there are 2 new creatures:The Acront(multiple Acronta) and The Fire Beast.

Let me explain better:
Tower
LV1: Gremlin-Master Gremlin-Santa Gremlin<->Gremlin Legionary
LV2: Stone Gargoyle-Obsidian Gargoyle-Bronze Gargoyle
LV3: Stone Golem-Iron Golem-Silver Golem-Gold Golem-Diamond Golem
LV4: Mage-Archmage-Grand Mage-White Wizard
LV7: Giant-Titan-Lord of Thunder-Celestial Titan
Rampart
LV1:Centaur-Centaur Captain-LV2 Centaur Archer-LV3 Sylvan Centaur-Lv4 Centaur Polemarch
LV6: Unicorn-War Unicorn-Diamond Unicorn
Druidess is trained at Pegasus dwelling when the fountain is built.
Sharpshooter-Master Sharpshooter are trained at Upgraded Dendroid Arches if their bonus building is built
Centaur Archer-Sylvan Centaur-Centaur Polemarch are trained at Centaur stables when Castle is built.
Elven Warrior is trained at Homestead when Citadel is built.
Castle
LV1: Pikeman-Halberder-Spearman
LV3: Griffin-Royal Griffin-Combat Griffin
LV4: Swordsman-Crusader-Templar
Axeman is trained at Barracks when Citadel and City Hall are built.
Inferno
LV3: Hell Hound-Cerberus-Fire Wolf
LV4: Demon-Horned Demon-Blood Demon
LV7: Devil-Arch Devil-Hell Baron-Balor
Fiend is trained at Demon Gate when Castle is built
Dungeon
LV1: Troglodyte-Infernal Troglodyte-Shadow Troglodyte
LV3: Beholder-Evil Eye-Eye Tyrant
LV4: Medusa-Medusa Queen-Medusa Demigodess
LV5: Minotaur-Minotaur King-Great Minotaur(That from NEW UPGRADES)-Wild Minotaur
LV6: Manticore-Scorpion-Shadowstalker
Kordrion is tranined at Dragons' Dwelling when Castle,Capital and Mana Vortex are built.
Necropolis
LV1: Skeleton-Skeleton Warrior-Skeleton Champion
LV4: Vampire-Vampire Lord-Nosferatu
LV5: Lich-Power Lich-Thunderlich
Mummy-Shadow Mummy are trained at Graveyard when Skeleton Transformer&Unreathed Graves are built.(NEW SHADOW MUMMY)
Stronghold
LV1: Goblin-Goblin Looter-Hobgoblin-Goblin Swordsman
LV3: Orc-Orc Swordsman<->Orc Chieftain
LV4: Ogre-Ogre Mage<->Ogre Legionary
Boar<->Blackboar are trained at Wolf Pens when Citadel is built.Boar will be a defensive slow unit with high HP while Blackboar a powerful attacking unit with high speed but low HP.That is why they upgrade to each-other.NEW BLACKBOAR
Fortress
LV1: Gnoll-Gnoll Soldier<->Gnoll Maradeur
LV2: Lizardman-Lizard Warrior<->Lizard Gladiator
LV3: Serpent Fly-Dragon Fly-Cuoatl
LV4: Basilisk-Greater Basilisk<->Snake Basilisk
Conflux
LV1: Pixie-Sprite-Dryad
LV2: Air Elemental-Storm Elemental-Cloud Elemental
LV3: Water Elemental-Ice Elemental-Sea Elemental
LV4: Fire Elemental-Energy Elemental-Plasma Elemental
LV5: Earth Elemental-Magma Elemental-Malachite Elemental
LV6: Psycic Elemental-Magic Elemental-Eldritch Elemental
LV7: Firebird-Phoenix-Sacred Phoenix-Planar Phoenix
Neutral
LV2: Nomad-LV3: Cataphract
LV1: Rogue-LV3: Assasin
LV1: Halfling-Halfling Fighter
LV8: Acront
Hell Steed-Nightmare<->Fire Beast
LV3: Desert Slinger-Desert Archer
LV3: Desert Axeman-Desert Fighter
LV1: Peasant-LV3:Hoplite-LV5:Hired Blade(Mercenary at my Picture)
LV1: Kobold
LV10: Malachite Dragon
LV5:War Elephant-Lv6:Armored Elephant
LV4: Draconian Warrior-LV5: Draconian Elder<->LV6: Draconian Flyer
NEW UNITS UPDATE
Armored Elephant LV6

Goblin Swordsman LV1


Draconian Warrior LV4

Draconian Elder LV 5

Draconian Flyer LV6

Centaur Archer LV2:

DWARVES
Units:
Axeman LV2:

Berserker LV3:

Crossbowman LV2:

Boar Rider LV 3:

Engineer LV 1:

Mole LV 4:

Runemaster LV 7:

Granite Gargoyle LV 5:

Steam Tank LV 7:

How are trained:
Dwarves are trained at Tower.Each time you build a tower dwelling in town,there will be an option to choose a new type of dwelling instead of that.Dwarven buildings also cost different resources,based on the level of the unit they train.Engineer halls cost the same as Gremlin workshop beacause both Gremlin and Engineer are LV 1,but Steam Factory costs much more than Golem Factory,beacause Steam Factory does trains LV 7 units.Dwarves do not upgrade.Here:
Gremlin Workshop<->Engineerin Halls(Engineer)
Stone Parapet<->Granite Parapet(Granite Gargoyle)
Golem Factory<->Steam Factory(Steam Tank)
Mage Tower<->Crossbow Hall(Crossbowmen)
Altar of Wishes<->Rune Palace(Runemasters)
Golden Pavilion<->Mole Pens(Mole)
Cloud Temple<->Hall of Axes(Axemen and Berserkers)
NOTE:Hall of Axes trains both Axemen and Berserkers,but they do not upgrade to each other.They are 2 separate units.
Dwarven buildings have no requirements.You can build Hall of Axes since first day,but you do not get the choice to build Cloud Temple.Also Dwarves have a special building called Forge,where in exchange of resources you get artefacts:

Dwarven Chainmail:
Defense Skill +6
5000 Gold 20 Ore 5 Sulphur

Plate Armor:
Defense Skill +3
2500 Gold 10 ore

Plate of the Gods:
Defense Skill +3
Attack Skill  +3
20000 Gold 50 Ore 10 Gems 25 Mithril
Grants to units:
Magic Immunity


Helmet:
Defense Skill +1
500 Gold 2 Ore

Dragon's Helmet:
Defense Skill +5
10000 Gold 10 Mithril
Grants to units:
Fire Immunity
Fire Shield


Golden Sword
Attack Skill +5
7000 Gold


Magic Catalyst
Spell Power +20
Knowledge   +20
50 Gems 50 Crystals 20 Mithril
Grants to units:
Anti-Magic

CONFLUX:
The Conflux is entirely alternative upgraded,wich makes it directly the strongest Faction.It is the only town that has another upgrade of the Castle,wich is the Temple.Since all the Conflux alternative creatures exept the phoenix are ranged,on the towers there are Eldritch Elementals.Also the Temple Doubles the gold production,gives +10 resources each week and doubles the trained units(the base units are those trained when Castle is built).However,the Conflux has a rival faction...
DUNGEON:
The Rival Faction of the Conflux,Dungeon has nearly all creatures melee,exept the Eye Tyrant and the Dragons.The Kordrion can call Meteor Shower and when in sieges,Earthquake.The Kordrion is a lv 20 creature of immense power,with a cost of 100000 Gold,40 Sulphur/Mercury,20 Crystals/Gems and 200 Wood/Ore each.It hase the stats:
Attack:100
Defense:100
MAX DMG:100
MIN DMG:100
Speed:MAX
Shots:5
HP:10000
Special Abilities:Terror,Breath Attack.
Do not be afraid,the Kordrion cannot be a creature you can meet as neutral.It can only be gained if you train it in a town.

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posted January 17, 2010 11:54 AM

Ok, what is the purpose of the mod? Just having fun making it, or is there another goal behind that? And are you supposed to have several upgrades in town? And why would you make some things so immensly unbalanced?
A lot of questions, I know.

Then for some actual feedback. I like some of the creatures, but I think some of the teams have lost their indivuality. For example the legionaire setting is present in many themes (as well as the golden armor) and a lot of teams have to many different colours. I would like the teams to look different from the other, and the units in a town to be quite similiar to each other. And lastly, a lot of the units are a bit to extreme and have a lot of titles (master, shadow etc) that gives an even more extreme feeling to it, and is sometimes unnecessary
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Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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Elvin's Darkside
posted January 17, 2010 11:58 AM

I personally, don't like it either.
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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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DoR Dev Team
posted January 17, 2010 12:02 PM

The purpose of this mod is to add new creatures in the game,to make it more fun.The idea of the alternative upgrades and of the project may stimulate some modderst to return back to their researches to the way of adding new units.

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Supreme Hero
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posted January 17, 2010 12:05 PM

I thought that the game was limited to a specific number of creatures?
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gnollking
gnollking


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posted January 17, 2010 12:17 PM

Yes it is, but there's still room for about 90 new creatures. The creature limit is 255, as far as I remember.
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Supreme Hero
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posted January 17, 2010 12:25 PM

Aha! I thought WoG filled up the last spaces with its new creatures.
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gnollking
gnollking


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posted January 17, 2010 12:31 PM

Nope.
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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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DoR Dev Team
posted January 17, 2010 12:34 PM

There is a total of 58 creatures in my project.

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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
posted January 17, 2010 12:41 PM

I checked it. There are currently 196 creatures in the game.
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted January 17, 2010 12:53 PM

Some of them are okay but other than that, nothing special. Nice effort, though.
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Ayreon
Ayreon


Famous Hero
posted January 17, 2010 12:54 PM

Sorry, Lord_Immortal, but I like none of your creatures. If I seriously am interested in new creatures (which I am), then I want new creatures, not creatures assembled from already existing ones. It's okay if there's one or two of those included, but not an entire army like you did.
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
posted January 17, 2010 12:55 PM

Darkloke will not be happy to see his already done creatures in the mass. Same for many others.
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Mitabrin
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posted January 17, 2010 01:24 PM

Not only Darkloke, I see there Exx's, Arstahd's, Docent Picolan's, BigJocker's, and one Salamandre's unit...
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packa
packa


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posted January 17, 2010 01:49 PM

Else i see Dragonar's creature

Have you def of Acront,Kordrion and gremlin legendary?

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FCst1
FCst1


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posted January 17, 2010 02:01 PM
Edited by FCst1 at 14:14, 17 Jan 2010.

...And also Silver Golem by Bisik...

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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DoR Dev Team
posted January 17, 2010 03:05 PM
Edited by Lord_Immortal at 15:14, 17 Jan 2010.

Quote:
Else i see Dragonar's creature

Have you def of Acront,Kordrion and gremlin legendary?


No,animated are only those made by others.I cannot animate!I do not know how propriely.I mean,I know a way,editting pictures one by one,but it can result bad.If someone has an easier way,please tell me.

Quote:
Darkloke will not be happy to see his already done creatures in the mass. Same for many others.

Do not worry,I am going to ask permissions.However,I do not think that people will be worried to see that their creatures no more replace others.

Also,there are 4 free places between the upgraded elementals.Does someone knows how to use them?It might add 4 of our creaures.

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Trith
Trith


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posted January 17, 2010 06:32 PM

TI team tried to place units between elementals. Game always crashed. These places weren't even occupied in AB expansion. Im' not sure why, but Acid Dragon said maybe AI need it to work correctly. In every town is regularity in numbers of creatures: firstly is unupgraded creature and next one is upgrade. It makes sense.
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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
posted January 17, 2010 06:53 PM

I guess than we will have to unlock the slots 197-250/255

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ChaosHydra
ChaosHydra


Famous Hero
posted January 17, 2010 11:49 PM

We definitely need more creatures in the game (in queue for other projects)

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