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Elvin
Elvin


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posted February 14, 2010 11:55 PM

Concealed Truths

In many a movie or book there is a deeper meaning than shown - Imagery interweaves with symbolism, seemingly pointless details serve to explore a setting's values or lore, actions to illuminate a character's ethos. But sometimes even the most astute perceptions find it hard to grasp the true meaning of it all. What did I just see? Did that scene serve a purpose? Was the author trying to give me a hint?

But fear not for my depth of perception is at your command! A veteran of hundreds, nay, thousands of stories and cliches extraordinaire, I Elvin will bask these dank secrets into piercing light
I will start with some stories on top of my head but please feel free to bring up bits you did not manage to make sense out of or share your personal insights.



GOTHIKA

Throughout the film there is one important message, almost screaming for your attention: If you are driving at night through a deserted place and see a shady character in front of your car - that was possibly not there moments ago or is accompanied by radio static - RUN HIM OVER! He is most likely a ghost that will possess and land you in a real mess you won't even remember getting in.

BERSERK

Some themes are explored throughout the manga but I will highlight the important meanings.

1) Big swords are cool.
2) Handheld mini canons are even cooler.
3) Comic relief characters ARE JUST NOT DESTINED TO DIE. Sorry if I dashed your hopes.
4) Sucks to be a woman. You will end up isolated, prostituting yourself or face multiple rape attempts. Per chapter.
5) Gore serves to illustrate the main character's seeing red A central theme of berserk as the name would suggest.
6) If a friend acquires a pendant tied to fate that will give them dominion over the world in exchange for their flesh and blood stay the hell away from him. It is not going to end well.
7) The main character's physical disabilities, anti-social behaviour or even the fact that he is human give the subtle message that despite one's flaws it is possible to hang on to what you believe in, find your way in life and flip off Fate. Possibly getting further wrecked along the way.

DEATHNOTE

1) Notebooks are the work of the devil. Don't write in them no matter what your professors tell you, human lives are at stake. Would you rather skip an assignment or cause accidental deaths?
2) If someone is diametrically opposite to you in all respects look no further, he is undoubtedly your nemesis.
3) More of a universal truth, girls always fall for the wrong guys.
5) No matter how superior your planning is, a random lame incident messing up everything is still a possibility.
6) Killing people with machine guns may settle mind games easier, your nemesis will instead be expecting a masterplan.

YUGIOH

1) If you want to take over the world the only feasible and plausible way is to defeat kiddos in a children's card game.
2) If you believe in the heart of the cards you always draw the one card that will win you the game.
3) The more your friends believe in you the more your chances to draw a good card increase.
4) Ancient Egyptian artifacts tend to have negative side-effects like soul possession. Use with caution.
5) The more outrageous a character's hair or clothing is the more important he is to the story.
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mvassilev
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posted February 14, 2010 11:58 PM

Quote:
2) If you believe in the heart of the cards you always draw the one card that will win you the game.
Only in the 4kids "dub".
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DagothGares
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posted February 15, 2010 12:12 AM

twilight:
- Act with glee when your boyfriend tells you how he fantasises about eating you and confesses to watch you sleep every single night.
- Be devastated when your boyfriend (who you've only been with for six months) leavs you and never pick up your life again.
- Commit suicide to draw attention.
- It's okay to treat your friends like dirt. Romance is the ONE AND ONLY thing that counts in this world.
- When someone gives you the cold shoulder, that means they're secretly lusting after you.
- Age is nothing but a number.
- When you see someone sparkle in the sunlight, RUN!
- When people watch a naked man sparkle they'll think "vampire" instead of "flamboyant homosexual" apparently...
- Go after the man that treats you like dirt instead of the nice guy

Pokémon
- Child labour laws? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Seriously, he's ten years old, it's time he goes off to live on his own, woman!
- Capturing animals and making them fight until one of them is unconscious is a-okay! and should be your principal source of entertainment, in fact.
- SUCK IT, DARWIN AND ELODIN! Evolution exists and is instantaneous!
- It's okay to seal animals in airtight balls.

Beyblade
- the entire universes revolves around... Spinning tops apparently.
- Inanimate objects house spirits which can do combat.
- Entire tournaments are based around spinning tops
- In fact it's a team sport.

Okay, let's forget all about beyblade for now.
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mamgaeater
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posted February 15, 2010 12:25 AM
Edited by mamgaeater at 00:38, 15 Feb 2010.

I'll add to pokemon

Pokemon
1) It doesn't matter how big a pokemon is or how good your eyes are. YOU CAN'T SEE A WILD POKEMON UNTIL ITS TOO LATE!
2) Kids are allowed to go off from home at the age of ten and amass a small army of wild animals possessing unrealistically powerful moves that would make a REAL army pale in comparison
3) Not only are stat boosting drugs legal, but you are allowed to sell them to minors.
4) No matter how intelligent your pokemon is, He can only remember how to do 4 things.
5) Evil villains won't hurt you or try to kill your family. At worst they will cackle maniacally and perform irrelevant acts of malice as a deterrent.
6) There is no such thing as a lawnmower. there will always be tall grass no matter where you go.
7) Feeding a dog chocolate won't hurt it at all. in fact it will gain a level!

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Fauch
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posted February 15, 2010 01:20 AM

8) getting hit by a massive rock, a fireball, a lightning or a massive geyser will stun you at worst.

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ohforfsake
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posted February 15, 2010 01:59 AM

I always found it weird how the difference between death and uneffected is the difference of one health unit and zero health units.

Also, in all movies I have ever seen, I find it odd that if you let enough time pass, any event that previously happened, does not exist in the mind of the given character. It is much more visible in series, from episode to episode, especially if written by different authors, however it does also often show in movies as well.
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Elvin
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posted February 15, 2010 02:13 AM
Edited by Elvin at 02:16, 15 Feb 2010.

Heroes is a clear example, many plot holes along the way. I read that in every episode the writers are divided in small teams that decide what happens to each character and then they combine it into an a larger storyline. Some inconsistencies are pretty blatant.

Edit: Forgot a major one for berserk. The moment someone says go get him, it's just one guy it's time to run screaming like a little girl.
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Elvin
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posted October 28, 2010 01:33 PM
Edited by Elvin at 13:36, 28 Oct 2010.

POKEMON

- It's ok to cut trees, they'll grow back the moment you leave the area.
- No amount of biting, chopping to pieces or stomping will actually kill.
- Don't put too much faith on animal memory. Low capacity and they forget too easily.
- The world is full of nice people that want to give you free stuff!
- Do *not* look at people. You will be attacked.


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OmegaDestroyer
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Fox or Chicken?
posted October 28, 2010 04:14 PM

Poor Norris has got nothing on The Kid.



BAM!  IN YOUR FACE, SUCKER!

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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 28, 2010 04:46 PM

Quote:
Poor Norris has got nothing on The Kid.



BAM!  IN YOUR FACE, SUCKER!

WHO IS HIMMM!
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Adrius
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posted October 28, 2010 11:39 PM

Berserk

If someone looks ugly or retarded, he is most likely also extremely evil.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 29, 2010 12:15 AM

What about Gutts then?
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blizzardboy
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posted October 29, 2010 12:17 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 00:18, 29 Oct 2010.

Gutts is handsome, he's just sort of kind of missing an eye and a forearm.

All the women in Berserk, even the prepubescent witch, seem to have an attraction toward him.
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Adrius
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posted October 29, 2010 12:17 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:20, 29 Oct 2010.

Guts ain't ugly imo.

And if he was, it actually fits well. Guts ain't exactly some goody two shoes hero...

EDIT: I liked the part where the knight-girl got so much hots for Guts that she tried to have sex with his sword.

He's just that sexy.
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blizzardboy
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posted October 29, 2010 12:22 AM

Even God-hand lady embodied as a giant pile of intestines wanted some of Gutts' man-love.

Gutts is basically a nomadic pimp. Think about it.
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Elvin
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posted October 29, 2010 12:35 AM
Edited by Elvin at 00:38, 29 Oct 2010.

He actually has a handsome face but can be pretty terrifying nonetheless. The dark artwork, clothing, fierce emotions, heck the whole berserk theme give him a brutal feel.

http://flabslapper.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/guts39dc2.jpg

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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 29, 2010 12:49 AM

But someone should tell him that wearing a dead hedgehog on his head is not sexy...
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Adrius
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posted October 29, 2010 12:51 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:57, 29 Oct 2010.

Macross

-Robots are cool.
-Robots that transform into jets are even cooler.
-No matter how cool your robots are, you're ultimately gonna get your ass handed to ya by a teen girl singing j-pop.
-You can never have too many missiles, NEVER.
-Alcohol makes your piloting skills better.
-Aliens are mysogynists.

Hellsing

-Even if you've been turned into a ghoul and your one and only motivation is described as "BRAINS", you've still gotta at least try and rape the virgin vampire girl.
-If he looks at you... RUN.
-If he also smiles... well you're ****ed anyway but RUN DAMNIT RUN!
-If your main character somehow turns out kinda too evil, you can always throw in some Nazis as enemies and things are okay.
-Don't mess with the butler.

EDIT: This thread has been claimed by the United HC Anime-Nerd Front.
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mamgaeater
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posted October 29, 2010 01:06 AM
Edited by mamgaeater at 01:07, 29 Oct 2010.

What's the difference between anime and manga?
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Adrius
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posted October 29, 2010 01:12 AM

Anime is japanese animation, manga is japanese comics.
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