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Fauch
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posted March 04, 2010 03:27 AM |
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Out of body experience
when your spirit leaves your body.
has anyone here ever experienced it? if yes, how was it?
(I didn't experiment it, I'm curious)
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posted March 04, 2010 03:59 AM |
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It's really nice. I'm watching you from the ceiling right now btw.
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posted March 04, 2010 04:00 AM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 04:01, 04 Mar 2010.
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joke and laugh, blizzard, but such experiences ARE possible...and "nice" isn'T the word I would use at all
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posted March 04, 2010 06:15 AM |
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Ive met people who make it feel you've had an 'out of body' experience just by talking to them! 
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posted March 04, 2010 08:16 AM |
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Hmm... I've read and heard about some people getting an OoBE (this thread's new official acronym) when having a near death experience, like, they're watching their body as the doctors are trying to save them and stuff.
Some explain it as the brain's naturally produced drugs (endorfins or sumthin') going crazy when the body is on the verge of dying, thus getting you extremly high.
Might also explain why some people have revelations like, "I SAW HEAVEN" when they've had a near death experience.
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posted March 04, 2010 09:49 AM |
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I wonder why people who had "near death experiences" ALWAYS see heaven or a shiny light. No one ever said he saw hot flames and demons.
So either hell doesn't exist, or bad people never have such experiences....judge yourself..
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posted March 04, 2010 09:56 AM |
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Edited by Elodin at 09:57, 04 Mar 2010.
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posted March 04, 2010 02:48 PM |
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I wonder why people who had "near death experiences" ALWAYS see heaven or a shiny light. No one ever said he saw hot flames and demons.
So either hell doesn't exist, or bad people never have such experiences....judge yourself..
actually, there have been people reporting horrifying visions.
The pleasant visions were also varied. Shining light is common, yeah, but it does not happen every time.
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posted March 04, 2010 02:54 PM |
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By far, most people see "light" and don't feel scared or anything like that.
In my opininon, it's nothing spiritual but a natural process that our brain makes when we are about to die. I am sure that scientists will find out more about this in the coming years as we delve deeper into the brain and dare to perform more conservative experiements...
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posted March 04, 2010 02:58 PM |
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The endorphin theory is weak. How can you have a "Bad trip" on a stream of pure endorphin? that's right, you can't.
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posted March 04, 2010 03:51 PM |
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Out- of - body experience? I wouldn't try that ...  According to Yoga the Third eye is the chakra which can help you establish those sorts of ... "travels". You can go anywhere you want to. But it's kind of scary and I don't think that people who are telling you they have achieved this are actually treated as "normal".
About the light thing when death is near, I have heard that is a trick comming from the brain and it was connected with the death of neurons. I have heard about that but I certainly can't remember what my teacher said then ... it was long time ago.
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posted March 04, 2010 03:55 PM |
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There's no death of neurons, I think, since you get 'resurrected'. Dead things are... dead. No way to reverse a (even very slightly) decomposed person, unlike in fantasy. 
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posted March 04, 2010 04:01 PM |
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Neurons die every day - when you are trying to read that post or when you are answering it. When you think of something ... it's just that everything has balance. The dangerous thing is when too many die So yeah, like every cells in human body neurons are dying. But they can't be ressurected. Actually I remember that some time ago there was a dicussion between scientist wheather these cells are ressurecful or not, but even if they are, they are growing too slowly so it doesn't make a big difference.
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posted March 04, 2010 04:24 PM |
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No I meant a "massive sudden death" of neurons enough to cause that hallucination by itself.
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posted March 04, 2010 06:18 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 18:23, 04 Mar 2010.
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Out- of - body experience? I wouldn't try that ...
it is said it isn't dangerous, and you can return in your body simply by wanting it. that being said, I guess it can be scary for someone who has never experienced it
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According to Yoga the Third eye is the chakra which can help you establish those sorts of ... "travels". You can go anywhere you want to. But it's kind of scary and I don't think that people who are telling you they have achieved this are actually treated as "normal".
some people believe it, some other don't, and you can not believe it and still be open. from what I read, I can't really say if it's true, but it makes sense.
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About the light thing when death is near, I have heard that is a trick comming from the brain and it was connected with the death of neurons. I have heard about that but I certainly can't remember what my teacher said then ... it was long time ago.
something interesting is that people living it seem to say it seems more real than reality itself (I mean, reality as we conceive it).
one source says it is one happen when you dream, but you aren't aware of it. but if your mind is awake while the body is sleeping, then you aware that you leave your body.
it will look like you've just awaken, except you will have a 360° vision and be insubstantial.
some people talked about things that happened very far from them while they were sleeping and they were right.
however, what you will see may be slightly different from what you are used to see usually, since some things might be the products of your imagination. it could also be possible to see the thoughts of other people materialize.
it's just something I read, don't know if it is true. but actually, do we know what's the energy that makes us alive and able to think? it's not impossible that thoughts let some traces that we are just unable to see. like fire let traces too for example.
btw, I read it isn't such a rare phenomemon. there could have millions of people living it. maybe billions. and none of you?
note : near death experience are slightly different. people talk about a tunnel with an intense and very relieving light. it seems you become omniscient during a NDE, I'm not sure about an OBE.
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Neurons die every day - when you are trying to read that post or when you are answering it. When you think of something ... it's just that everything has balance. The dangerous thing is when too many die So yeah, like every cells in human body neurons are dying. But they can't be ressurected. Actually I remember that some time ago there was a dicussion between scientist wheather these cells are ressurecful or not, but even if they are, they are growing too slowly so it doesn't make a big difference.
neurons are created also I think. it's called neuroplasticity
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posted March 05, 2010 07:52 PM |
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so? not much interest in the subject?
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I wonder why people who had "near death experiences" ALWAYS see heaven or a shiny light. No one ever said he saw hot flames and demons.
well, good question. apparently, people who don't believe in heaven and even have never heard of it, would still describe something similar to what we call heaven. so maybe the reason is because it is real, and not a product of their imagination?
interestingly, babies could understand the experience as well as adults it seems (despite not being able to talk about it). in another hand, since they have to wait several years before having enough words to explain it, it is possible that what they say they saw got modified by some popular beliefs.
note : actually, it isn't said that it's like heaven. it is said it is beyond what words can explain. but it has probably a lot of similarities with what we call heaven.
and about the frightening experience, well some people can find that vision of "heaven" frightening, like we can be frightened by something we don't know.
note : some interesting experiences were done.
the 1st one, the meditating person is on an extremly accurate scale. at the moment the person leaves his body, there is a little loss of weight, which may mean the astral body is actually physical.
the 2nd one, the subject was in a room. a kilometer away from him, there was another room, closed, with a movement detector. and each time, according to what the subject said, the moment his astral body entered the room was the same than when the detector got activated.
btw, what about the "to delete" rating? do you think it isn't a serious subject?
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posted March 10, 2010 08:27 PM |
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I think the lack of posts in this topic is due to it being a rather unknown subject to most people. I mean I personally have no idea of it, after all, the impression I get of outer body is some kind of split between what defines you as existing and what is your physical body. As we can't seperate those two via measurements yet, it is rather hard to relate to if it is real or not.
However, I'd say it is likely not a real experience, because it would mean there's something outside your body to which you can observe through, without being in physical contact with, which seems unlikely to me.
That's under the assumption that whatever defines ones existance is physical in the first place, if it wasn't, then I think it'd be more of a religous topic, as it'd pretty much solely depend on belief, I guess.
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Fauch
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posted March 10, 2010 08:44 PM |
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actually there are some proofs but not many are very reliable
I posted 2 examples of experiences.
life would come from the soul (note : it isn't because we don't see it that it doesn't exist )
actually, a theory is the soul has godlike powers, but to interact with the world, it has to incarnate itself in the body (actually it may use telekinesis and telepathy also, but since many humans don't believe in those phenomenons, it is often easier for a soul to incarnate itself in order to communicate with humans)
the body itself greatly limits the powers of the soul.
also, I suppose children have some paranormal abilities (from their soul) but because of the pressure of the society, they are forced to forget them. they are told it isn't real. or even that they are crazy.
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posted March 11, 2010 05:18 AM |
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I've done some OoBE work, but not enough to speak with authority on it. A huge part of the problem is the fear of detaching, it's hard to leave the body because we're afraid we won't be able to get back in. Sort of like passing your finger over a candle: Just because you know the flame won't burn you doesn't mean the inherent fear of fire doesn't kick in.
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However, I'd say it is likely not a real experience, because it would mean there's something outside your body to which you can observe through, without being in physical contact with, which seems unlikely to me.
As far as I've been able to figure, the...astral form or whatever emits some sort of sonar that bounces off the wavicles of light, enabling it to "see" just in a different way.
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posted March 11, 2010 02:25 PM |
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I haven't tried it, but despite reading that it is safe (at least if done the right way) you still have some apprehension.
it seems you reenter your body only by thinking about it. it also works if you start panicking in the astral state, or if your body feels something strong enough while you are in the astral state.
however, I read some people couldn't come back (they didn't know they just had to think about it) and someone else had to interract with their body to bring them back.
I guess it is less scary if you can find someone to practise it with you, especially if he has already done it.
I had also wondered if while you are out of your body, another soul/spirit may steal your place? from what I read it is very unlikely. maybe you just have to make sure to not practise in a haunted place?
how are the body sensations btw? they talk about vibrations, but is that very upsetting? I sometimes feel vibrations in my body but it isn't very strong.
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