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posted March 09, 2010 08:42 AM |
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What you guys have to take into account, is that most handimen have to pay stuff to(materials and so) and that they only get a few hours of actual work every week/month compared to other jobs.
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posted March 09, 2010 08:43 AM |
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And teacher is bad payed here. A roofer is 150 euros easy. Some jerk came to repair my WC and asked 180 euros for 1/2 hour. I had no choice, except swimming.
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posted March 09, 2010 08:54 AM |
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Yeah, in general what you need badly is very expensive. For example a bus driver is making 2300 euros/month. Every 2 or so months they go on strike and ask more. As everything is paralyzed without them, one accedes at their demand. For driving a bus. People who is needed to repair stuff, open locked doors etc are very expensive because they know you have no choice. They make in one day what a university teacher gets monthly.
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posted March 09, 2010 09:46 AM |
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You have to make a difference between a simple worker and the business owner. If you are your own roofer, that is, you have no boss, yes, you earn at least that much. These kind of handiwork is expensive.
However, MOST roofers work for a boss - the guy who owns "Henderson's Roofing". He's the one telling his workers where to go and what to do, and while he cashes in something like up to, well, 80 bucks plus taxes, the worker gets only 15 or so.
Of course a roofer can work after hours (on weekends): he may do the job UNofficially, cashing in something in-between 15 and 80 bucks and no taxes, so everyone makes a deal.
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posted March 09, 2010 09:55 AM |
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Wow, I have my class B CDL with passenger endorcement..maybe I should move over there and become a bus driver!
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posted March 09, 2010 10:00 AM |
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2300 € isn't much in terms of value, and even less in France. I'd consider 2300 € not much for France.
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posted March 09, 2010 10:04 AM |
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This sheds some light over the difference in the value of money, even when the same currency!
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posted March 09, 2010 10:05 AM |
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It is not a lot, but still disproportioned regardless other jobs. A teacher starts at 1500/month and can not go later on strike for income, as no one cares. The teacher worked hard since his twenties to deserve this job, while the bus driver only had 20 drive lessons.
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posted March 09, 2010 10:44 AM |
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I worked in construction for many years. I worked mostly as a carpenter and general remodeling, but also some roofing.
That was a long time ago so I can only guess at current rates. $45 per hour sounds reasonable for someone working for them self, and I'm sure it could go higher than that depending on what part of the country it's in. As an employee, $45 sounds very high even for a well paid experienced roofer, but it's not so high that I would say with absolute certainty that nobody makes that much. My guess is that most roofers make under $20/hr and some are probably as low as $6-7 per/hr.
One thing to keep in mind with most construction work in the US, you only get paid when you work and there are no benefits. So no paid holidays, no paid sick days, no insurance (unless the injury is work related), no benefits of any kind. And if you show up for work in the morning and it's raining or too windy to work, you don't get paid.
Also, like most skilled trades, you buy your own basic tools which can get pretty expensive in some trades. A roofer wouldn't have many tools, but someone like a mechanic might have 20-30K+ tied up in hand tools. The company would normally own the more expensive tools.
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posted March 09, 2010 11:42 AM |
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Thanks guys.
I'll try to ask for more details.
Bin, I guess the payment varies between the States right? Do you live in a richer State or in a poorer one?
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2300 € isn't much in terms of value
It's a dream-salary in Poland 
oh, and Salamadre: awesome job and awesome cash. Congratulations ;>
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posted March 09, 2010 11:47 AM |
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Not sure it is true now with the 'recession' but the 'average' wage in America worked out to $22/hr for a 40 hour week.
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posted March 09, 2010 02:43 PM |
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That's not hard. I get 80 euros/hour, piano teacher, France, 16 hours/week.
An engineer here gets on average less than 12K a year, around $7 an hour. Sure there are few ones who get more than that, but by far the most (on average) get that amount.
Don't talk to me about luxury.
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posted March 09, 2010 04:14 PM |
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36k for an engineer in France. Twice than average teacher. But prices are not same in France and Romania.
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posted March 09, 2010 06:18 PM |
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But prices are not same in France and Romania.
And that's the main thing. People around the world wonder, that average salary here in Ukraine is 300$ per month. But I'd said I'd better had 2000$ per month here rather than 10000$ somewhere in US.
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posted March 09, 2010 11:37 PM |
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2300 in france is quite high I guess.
there is maybe one person in my family earning that much (and I'm not even sure) others are around 1000-1500€ per month (in another hand, they don't really have the best possible jobs)
a roofer in france would probably get about 10€ per hour, like most jobs involving "to get your hands dirty"
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posted March 09, 2010 11:52 PM |
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I have not studied the ways the world works, but I have made me a general impression.
It is my impression that countries keeps boarders up at which they change prices for market products to isolate their inner market.
An example, in Denmark stuff are generally more expensive than in France, on the other hand the wage is also much higher in Denmark.
Danish people therefore thinks that isolating the danish market, via price regulating boarders, helps danes staying much richer in average than the typical poor french dude.
However for the french people, isolating make them think that it helps french prices to stay low compared to the danish ones.
However this probably results in lots of people trying to go from one country to the other and then sending money home, taking advantage of the market, yet sacrificing their possibility to spend time with those important to them.
That is what I believe many polish workers do.
I think it'd be an advantage to all of us, if we removed these boarders, thereby making the market completely open, which would regulate the average wealth over all countries to be much more equal, and the same goes for the average price for stuff.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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posted March 10, 2010 12:01 AM |
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Resources aren't evenly distributed (i.e. oil-bathed Scandinavia and land-locked eastern Europe), so it goes without saying that merging countries would create more equality. The people enjoying the long end of the stick might not be so amiable to the idea though, so good luck having 1 nation anytime soon. 23rd century, maybe. You might have a USE in by the late 21st though.
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posted March 10, 2010 12:10 AM |
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posted March 10, 2010 12:58 AM |
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a roofer in france would probably get about 10€ per hour, like most jobs involving "to get your hands dirty"
Kidding? Hire someone to clean your house 1 hour/week is 20 euros. Normally it is a job at 10 euros but no one takes it so low. Why? Because the RMI (social insertion income) in France is around 800 euros/month (967 if family!) and you lose it if you work (you get it just for air breathing).
So a dirty job has to be better payed to incite people to work. Quite weird (I am against free assistance).
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posted March 10, 2010 01:24 AM |
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do you live in the same france as me?
wow, is the RMI that high? that's true that many people I know complain to be poorer than those receiving the RMI whereas they work.
20 € per hour for that kind of jobs? are you crazy? 
if you have a boss it is unlikely.
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