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dragon99919
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posted March 13, 2010 03:01 PM |
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Heroes Chronicles - H3 Editor Convertation....
All raight... Let's rool. 
I just bought in my shop first 4 Heroes Chronicles. This is really great fun. ;p And I have an idea... But I can't make it exist.  What is this idea?
YOUR OWN CHRONICLES!
The H3 engine, and HC (Heroes Chronicles) engines are the same, but SoD editor don't want to open HC campaings, and HC don't want to open my H3 campaings. In other forum (Polish forum, I am from Poland ;p) somebody say I must change values in "HeX Editor". He says, he can't do that, so I am here.
Can someone tell me, how to convert H3 campaings for HC?
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EnergyZ
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posted September 18, 2015 02:47 PM |
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Yeah, I'd really want that to know as well.
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Herry
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posted September 18, 2015 03:30 PM |
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Edited by Herry at 15:36, 18 Sep 2015.
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Well, editing values in hex editor does make sense... He probably means changing the values so it looks like it's a HC campaign maker, when it's not... I would do so, if only I had the exact address of the values... Because you know, searching for it manually is a pain in the @$$, for me at least. Can you ask him about it? This is a pretty interesting deal.
EDIT: Meanwhile I'll reinstall H3 and HC and see what I can do by myself. No promises though.
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verriker
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posted September 18, 2015 03:36 PM |
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potmdehex
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posted September 19, 2015 12:31 PM |
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I don't know about 2010 when this thread was first created but it has been converted and available for some time.
Googling leads to for example: link
verriker said:
repost this in the WOG forum mate, someone like OxFEA, Bes or Orzie probably knows lol
Yes, let's repost this in the unrelated WoG forum because no one outside of it knows anything. Gotta know them leet ERM codes or you don't know snow.
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verriker
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posted September 19, 2015 04:19 PM |
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potmdehex said:
Yes, let's repost this in the unrelated WoG forum because no one outside of it knows anything. Gotta know them leet ERM codes or you don't know snow.
no need for a jerkass tone mate, this thread is about helping to repackage H3 to chronicles which has never been done as well as conversion to H3 only (or otherwise we go here, cheers for also knowing how to google though lol)
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zmudziak22
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posted September 26, 2015 12:57 PM |
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Heroes Chronicles campaigns are not converted, but remade.
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EnergyZ
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posted September 26, 2015 01:00 PM |
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So there is no way to actually convert them?
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verriker
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posted September 26, 2015 01:12 PM |
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zmudziak22 said:
Heroes Chronicles campaigns are not converted, but remade.
nah those are converted, it would be practically impossible to remake the maps with that level of perfect accuracy and there are even unused texts in them lol
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Salamandre
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posted September 26, 2015 01:16 PM |
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Actually wog editor has a copy/paste function, which makes possible to "redesign" any map in a couple of seconds. Now why would anyone do that for Heroes Chronicles, I dunno, those campaigns are extremely poorly done imo, not even close to SoD level.
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EnergyZ
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posted September 26, 2015 01:19 PM |
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You can sense Heroes Chronicles has a stronger RPG side, rather than being a strategy game.
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verriker
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posted September 26, 2015 01:27 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Actually wog editor has a copy/paste function, which makes possible to "redesign" any map in a couple of seconds. Now why would anyone do that for Heroes Chronicles, I dunno, those campaigns are extremely poorly done imo, not even close to SoD level.
that would require to have the map in H3 format first though I presume, so need to convert it one way or the other lol
chronicles are easy campaigns developed strictly for casuals to get hooked on Heroes and done with couple months turnaround, the point is the storyline but not the gameplay lol
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Herry
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posted September 26, 2015 01:46 PM |
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That doesn't apply to Conquest of the underworld. You don't know micro-management, you'll never win those. Sure, it's not as hard as SoD(specifically yog's campaign IMO), but you need to use strategy if you want to get anywhere. I also agree with EnergyZ on the RPG thing.
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Salamandre
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posted September 26, 2015 02:10 PM |
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Funny how the argument of being more oriented rpg excuses the poor design.
Verriker, Heroes maps have the version value hardcoded inside. I am 100% sure that changing that value in hex edit will make the map compatible with any other editor version, except if there are special objects inside. Era did it for Hota maps, also Biobob did it when designing maps in WoG editor then "converting" to SoD by changing the value.
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verriker
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posted September 26, 2015 02:16 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Verriker, Heroes maps have the version value hardcoded inside. I am 100% sure that changing that value in hex edit will make the map compatible with any other editor version, except if there are special objects inside. Era did it for Hota maps, also Biobob did it when designing maps in WoG editor then "converting" to SoD by changing the value.
if you know someone who can do that please send them here, because that or something similar is the converting we all talk about and hope for in this thread lol
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EnergyZ
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posted September 26, 2015 02:18 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Funny how the argument of being more oriented rpg excuses the poor design.
Verriker, Heroes maps have the version value hardcoded inside. I am 100% sure that changing that value in hex edit will make the map compatible with any other editor version, except if there are special objects inside. Era did it for Hota maps, also Biobob did it when designing maps in WoG editor then "converting" to SoD by changing the value.
I never said it is an excuse. Heck, I have heard the Chronicles was made for people that found Heroes III campaigns too hard to complete. That and it was a prelude to Heroes IV, of sorts. Could be it was a low budget for such a decision.
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potmdehex
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posted September 26, 2015 08:54 PM |
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Salamandre said:
I am 100% sure that changing that value in hex edit will make the map compatible with any other editor version, except if there are special objects inside.
Having spent hundreds of hours reverse engineering and writing software handling and converting the RoE, AB, SoD and WoG .h3m formats (github, HC) I am 100% sure that you are extremely incorrect unless I am misunderstanding your claim.
What you are saying is true for WoG <-> SoD since the WoG format is basically SoD format (I know nothing about HotA but it makes sense if it is the same as this is by far easiest approach), but RoE, AB and SoD differ vastly from each other. Opening a SoD map with its version (first four bytes) hex edited to RoE in the RoE map editor is not even anywhere close to working, even if it's just a blank map not containing a single object/settings (and if it does contain objects and settings it's even further from working).
The way to succeed in SoD->Chronicles conversion which seems to be this topic's purpose is to hex diff maps/campaigns from the two formats to find differences. A good starting point would be comparing the maps me and verriker have linked with the same maps in Chronicles format. I would say it's likely for them to be very similar, so if it might be as simple as Salamandre's suggestion of changing version value. If it's anything like RoE vs AB vs SoD that's a different story though.
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Salamandre
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posted September 26, 2015 09:00 PM |
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Ah ok, I saw it working with WoG->SoD and vice-versa, was thinking will work with all.
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