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posted June 04, 2013 09:26 PM |
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Minion
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posted June 04, 2013 10:24 PM |
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I am playing Protoss way more now in HotS. I used to be Zerg. But I can't play with Swarm Hosts well enough, or to be honest, they are boring. The only anti-air that is good is the Spore Crawler. Zerg needs an anti-air unit or the Swarm Host needs a rework. What was that idea of yours Storm-Giant, that they spwan only half as long but are half that strong?
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posted June 04, 2013 11:43 PM |
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I am playing Protoss way more now in HotS. I used to be Zerg. But I can't play with Swarm Hosts well enough, or to be honest, they are boring. The only anti-air that is good is the Spore Crawler. Zerg needs an anti-air unit or the Swarm Host needs a rework.
I think you are mixing stuff.
Does Zerg needs an anti-air? Well, right now they have:
- Queens (very tanky unit thanks to 175 of health and tranfuse, also cheap (only minerals)). Slow off creep.
- Hydras (weak, but with the highest dps of all of them. Also, 7 of range is nice.
- Corruptor (easy to mass. In lategame situations lose A LOT of power).
- Infestor (fungal, only fungal. Once you land the first one, the rest is easy, provided the infestors are covered. Infested Terrans are useless)
Zerg has enough anti-air units, the problem is all of them can be very hardcountered (HTs >>> queens & infestors, Void Rays >>>>>>>>>>>> corruptors, AOE (Colossus, Storms) >>> hydras).
Personally, I would rework the corruptor. As it is right now, is a boring 1A unit. You only care to select them to either retreat with the rest of the army, focus a colossus or move to avoid a storm, but has little to zero micro.
But it's not as Zerg is hopeless against air (Protoss) armies, in programming level.
Obviously, at lower leagues doesn't matter if a race is stronger than the other two 
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What was that idea of yours Storm-Giant, that they spwan only half as long but are half that strong?
The idea was more oriented to make them less boring and safe, but stronger in a direct confrontation. Spawning endless waves of locust from the safe wall of spines & spores is boring.
In particular, my idea was changing their upgrade, instead of extending their lifetime from 15 to 25, to increase their life by ## amount. So they would be harder to kill, but they won't be able to walk such long distances, and at the same time there would be a time window where swarm host are vulnerable (so zergie players would have to care about their swarm hosts and move them if they are about to be attacked).
PS: Sorry for the wall of text, but there's just more. Official WCS Portal, I like it
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posted June 07, 2013 06:10 PM |
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Dimaga is the best foreigner: he managed to took a map from Revival @lol
All four KeSPA players avancing. ForGG, ex-KeSPA, also advanced togethere with the rest of EU/AM hope (oh yeah...): Mvp, Alicia and aLive.
Tomorrow quarterfinals, starting at the *great* 03:00 CET time...on Sunday semis & grand final.
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posted June 07, 2013 11:42 PM |
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A few pages back I was wondering about why nobody seeker missiles tank lines, considering that it should be pretty effective, and here is a game that actually illustrates this.
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育碧是白痴
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posted June 07, 2013 11:49 PM |
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I don't like Terran very much, but that game was great. Especially the use of seeker missiles.
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posted June 08, 2013 04:54 PM |
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I got a Déjà vu...yeah, KeSPA powah!
This semifinals are among the sickiest we could hope, I'm really considering waking up at 3-5 a.m.
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posted June 08, 2013 08:19 PM |
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I am so curious too, haha, but I am not sure if I can get up.
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posted June 09, 2013 05:43 PM |
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Poor sOs, he looked very nervous on the finals. He could easily won the second game just by expanding while containing INnoVation, and on the next two matches he made 2 templar archives and 2 Twilight Council (respectively). At least he showed a funny composition of Tempest + storms + cannons, he almost got that last game
I reccomend Game 2 between INnoVation and Mvp, you'll enjoy it
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posted June 13, 2013 08:37 PM |
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I haven't had time to check the finals, were there any other good games besides that one?
Also, spawning with friends, huzzah! 
Though 2vs AI or 3 vs AI where one opponent is easy and the other is very hard is kinda 
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posted June 18, 2013 08:26 PM |
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DreamHack Summer 2013, since Ro8 was simply A-W-E-S-O-M-E
I couldn't watch anything but that due to final examns, but good god, what an exciting end of tournament. I recommend watch some of the series, with emphasis on Sjow - Life and the Grand Finals.
OSL (WCS Korea Season 2) started today btw, Bo1 Dual Tournament format on Ro32, but didn't affect today groups ^^
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posted June 18, 2013 09:05 PM |
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Lol that Sjow vs Life game 3 
Epic
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posted June 18, 2013 09:53 PM |
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Talking about back-and-forth games, INnoVation vs Savage was craaaazy. VOD is free up to 480p, you'll enjoy it ^^
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posted June 19, 2013 04:30 PM |
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Dreamhack was quite good yes. I am starting to think TvZ is indeed the most entertaining match up
gonna watch that Innovation-Savage game now ^^ Also looking forward to Flash games in the new Starleague turney.
I must complain about the mess that is all these different leagues and whatnots. GSL is now Starleague because of a different host. That is downright confusing and I would say harmfull to the sport.
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posted June 19, 2013 04:41 PM |
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Personally I'd loved to have GSL and OSL separated in Korea, so we would have two big leagues in Korea just like the good times in BroodWar with MSL + OSL.
However, this WCS Korea Season 1 (GSL) - Season 2 (OSL) - Season 3 (GSL)...is made to have all three regions equal (each region running one big league with same format, premier league, etc...)
Ironically, they are different since the begining (only 8 players fall from challenger league each season on Europe & America, while in Korea they fall ~25).
WCS is still a mess, hopefully they'll make much better next year.
Some news:
WCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard (Ex-IPL guys helping there). This should improve the experience of WCS Am
ESL TV adds Shaun Apollo Clark. Great caster for both WCS Europe and IEMs
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posted June 19, 2013 09:01 PM |
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL!
Jaedong vs stardust game 3
Such an ending
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Storm-Giant
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posted June 19, 2013 09:37 PM |
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JoonasTo
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posted June 20, 2013 03:53 PM |
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Yeah, that was pathetic. But that protoss play is really strong, I'm not sure if you can counter that properly with the current zerg. 
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posted June 20, 2013 04:11 PM |
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It requires clinical surgery forcefields to execute that build hehe
But I'm confident there is a way to deal with that toss build. Just Jaedong vs Protoss have beeing his worst matchup forever.
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posted June 20, 2013 04:28 PM |
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What protoss play? That 11 min attack? There is nothing too hard about that, Toss 2 base all-ins are much harder to defend. Of course defending with Swarmhosts is just, well, defending with the worst defensive unit in the game.
I have never seen 7 DT warp in, that was just so genious. Sniping the Lair. Epic!
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