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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: More Skills (H5-style)
Thread: More Skills (H5-style)
Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 07, 2010 11:54 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 13:30, 26 May 2010.

More Skills (H5-style)

So, let's say we take the Heroe Skills from H5, pretty much as they are, into H6...but want more!? Here are some suggestions:

Navigation:
Almost self-explaining. "logistics for water"...to make this skill more attractive, I'd suggest It also reduces the complete movement loss when stepping on a boat. (let's say you sitll have 20% movement (of your current movement when stepping on/off the boat) on basic level. 35% on advanced and 50% on expert level. Perks would improve several things on water, in combat as well as on adventure map.

Nobility:
I'd REALLY like the return of this skill, improving creature growths...there would probably changes have to be made in leadership perks - recruitment should drop out and diplomacy as well as estates moved to Nobility. Tactics is more a leadership perk anyway, imo, and something mroe would surely come into our mind

Battle Lore:
I'd like the Sylvan racial removed and this general skill added. It would make your units slightly more effective when fighting a certain creature type your hero can choose - beasts, demons, Dragons, elementals, mechanicals, undead, etc. Perks would include things like special hero attacks against this creature type, etc...

Architect:
Reduces building gold cost in town. Ultimate perk could be building two buildings per turn in this town.

Governing:
Now this perk promotes a very special way of heroing. It makes your hero gain exp, for every day the hero spends COMPLETELY in a town. It would, therefore, strengthen the defense highly. It has, however, no other effect, so for an offensive hero, it is highly useless. It is NOT cumultative with enlightenment!!!

Speed(name to be changed):
We have attack and Defense, so why not, now, a whole skill working on speed, increasing your units' speed by 1/2/3 for basic/advanced/expert skill. ... this skill wold probably be more realistic on a "bigger" battlefield with more squares.

Rush:
Another battle skill, increasing the initiative of your units by 10/20/30%. For me, an initiative skill is a MUST HAVE...

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MattII
MattII


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posted May 07, 2010 12:29 PM
Edited by MattII at 12:29, 07 May 2010.

Are those all skills or are some perks or what?

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alcibiades
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posted May 07, 2010 03:03 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 15:21, 07 May 2010.

Why would we want to promote the perk, which is absolutely useless on most maps (namely Navigation) back into a skill as it was in Heroes 3? In my oppinion it rested perfectly well as a perk.

The others would be nice, however. I like the Battle Lore idea.
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What will happen now?

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MattII
MattII


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posted May 07, 2010 10:04 PM

Well I've never played H5, but I can't say I like the looks of the racial skills, they just look as though they'd be too limiting (many apply 'only' to faction creatures, even those like Artificier and Runelore for which there is no reasonable explanation), and when you add in the morale effects as well... I mean in H3, Orrin and Mephala and that were as useful to Inferno or Necro as to their own towns.

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Jiriki9
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posted May 09, 2010 02:32 AM

these are all skills^^

...and I also like the racial idea...yet I allways found the avenger not so great and would have preferred a similar skill for everyone, and for monster types...choosing one monster type is just TOO specialized!!!

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MattII
MattII


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posted May 26, 2010 01:32 PM

Right, now try coming up with like 5 perks for each of those.

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Jiriki9
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posted May 26, 2010 05:07 PM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 23:00, 27 May 2010.

I will

here are some for Nobility:

Estates:
Yeah, we know that, don't we?

Call of War:
At the beginning of each weak, some tier 1 creatures of the heroes faction join your army for free.

Conscription:
Capable for: Barbarian, Knight, Ranger, Runemage, Warlock, Wizard;
The hero pays reduced cost for the Tier 1 unit of their faction.

Diplomacy:
We know that, too

Bodyguard:
(innermost circle perk)
Requires: Call of War, Fame;
At the beginning of each battle, the hero gets a stack of a class-specific bodyguard unit, the size depending on the hero level & unit. THe stack vanishes, if there are no other units left or when the battle is over.

Barbarian:
Ogre - LArge Tier 6 unit with great HP&defense, &good damage, but low speed&ini. Stack Size = 1 + 1for each 5 hero levels

Demon Lord:
Efreet - Large Tier 6 unit with good speed, ini,& attack; good fire abilities. Stack Size = 1 + 1for each 5 hero levels

Knight:
Honour Guard - Helberd wielding, armed Tier 5 unit with good defense, excellent defense abilities. Stack SIze = 1 for each 3 hero levels.

Necromancer:
Black Knight - Large Tier 6 Unit with good ini&damage; fear, and damage abilities. Stack Size = 1 + 1for each 5 hero levels

Ranger:
...

Runelord:
...

Warlock:
...

Wizard:
...

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