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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Not that it's important or anything.
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DagothGares
DagothGares


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posted July 03, 2010 12:04 AM

Not that it's important or anything.

I amass a world of wealth in the knowledge that I do not exist... I do not exist...
I do not exist.
Ain soph ain, correct?
I am the nothing I was before becoming. The nothing I will be once I stop being, stop breathing, stop seeing, stop listening.
Listen!
Nothing...
Nothing like those magnificent gods who only hear themselves.
Nothing like heroes of long past who might as well never have existed.
Villains etched in history.
Laws of nature are easier to understand once one applies mythological fairy tales.

- Modified opening to "15 minutes of fame"

Can anyone prove to me the importance of anything?
Of course you can't.
Not that it's important or anything.
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baklava
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posted July 03, 2010 12:06 AM
Edited by baklava at 00:07, 03 Jul 2010.

1) You're not fooling anybody Celfious
2) Descartes
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 12:09 AM
Edited by DagothGares at 00:11, 03 Jul 2010.

I think, therefore I am?

It's just something he said, because without this conclusion he was unable to do anything in this world. It's basically the same conclusion Levinas went with:

"Ah, screw it! Let's just assume this world exists and talk about that, okay?"

EDIT: I am (not) celfious. You got me. Though we both may as well not exist, so in a way two non-entities are each other.
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mvassilev
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posted July 03, 2010 12:13 AM

lol post-modernism
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baklava
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posted July 03, 2010 12:13 AM

Quote:
It's just something he said

Of course not.
He reached that sentence by sheer logic.

He said he could doubt everything, except that he doubts. And if there's doubting, there's got to be somebody that's doing the doubting. Hence, cogito ergo sum.

Also I know this is a spam thread but I can't miss a chance to sound intelligent and sophisticated like this.
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Keksimaton
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posted July 03, 2010 12:28 AM

This whole existing and non-existing thing is kind of pointless. Wether our state is existent or non-existent seems to be more a semantic thing, it's still the same whatever you wish to call it.
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mvassilev
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posted July 03, 2010 12:30 AM

I exist. It is the least that one can say, because saying "I do not exist" is a contradiction.
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Keksimaton
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posted July 03, 2010 12:36 AM

I might as well go ahead and say that what Dagoth is playing on us is a sophism. A fun play on words and a tripping stone in thinking.
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 12:41 AM

The length of ohforf's post makes sure it will not be read.

Who is this "I" anyway? I am just a set carbon molecules. I am not much better than an animal. I may as well not exist in this world which I did not create and in which I was forced to live.
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Adrius
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posted July 03, 2010 12:48 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:48, 03 Jul 2010.

Ohforf's post doesn't exist.

EDIT: OMG DID YOU SEE THAT?!

...I... I could do that to any of you.
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 12:52 AM

I dare you. Prove my point, right now, adrius.
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 12:59 AM
Edited by DagothGares at 00:59, 03 Jul 2010.

But I need a why ohforf and I can't come up with a sufficiently forceful why by myself. All my efforts are in vain. Nothing brings me joy. I am utterly alone. I can't just leave the why.

I don't care about the how, because at some point I have to resort to stating "magic."

"Why is gravity there?"
"Magic!"

"Why do particles move at all?"
"magic!"

EDIT: Adrius, I still exist. I'll count on your curse to work over time.
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Adrius
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posted July 03, 2010 12:59 AM
Edited by Adrius at 01:01, 03 Jul 2010.

My last post does not exist!

EDIT: Man this is scary.

EDIT2: You only exist because I made my last post non-existant. My powers are flawless.
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blizzardboy
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posted July 03, 2010 01:02 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 01:04, 03 Jul 2010.

Quote:
I amass a world of wealth in the knowledge that I do not exist... I do not exist...
I do not exist.
Ain soph ain, correct?
I am the nothing I was before becoming. The nothing I will be once I stop being, stop breathing, stop seeing, stop listening.
Listen!
Nothing...
Nothing like those magnificent gods who only hear themselves.
Nothing like heroes of long past who might as well never have existed.
Villains etched in history.
Laws of nature are easier to understand once one applies mythological fairy tales.

- Modified opening to "15 minutes of fame"

Can anyone prove to me the importance of anything?
Of course you can't.
Not that it's important or anything.


It's confusing times like these where I recall an old proverb:

"If didn't was invented the gunpowder,we had lasers from middle age"
-LizardWarrior

And suddenly, the confusing situation doesn't seem quite as confusing.
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 01:09 AM

Quote:
"If didn't was invented the gunpowder,we had lasers from middle age"
The haze has lifted.
the Buddhists were right.
It doesn't matter.
No matter
Anti-matter
Is this what they call nirvana?
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Azagal
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posted July 03, 2010 01:11 AM

This....is so awesome oO.
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Keksimaton
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posted July 03, 2010 01:14 AM
Edited by Keksimaton at 01:15, 03 Jul 2010.

How about going for some zen stuff like: "You can gain the answer only after you stop asking questions."

I smell that there either is a personal crisis or a clever ruse for invoking a specific response and then revealing the ruse and making a clever point about the human condition.


Edit: You might not know it now, but Adrius recently made a post saying: "This post doesn't exist."
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 01:17 AM

Quote:
You can gain the answer only after you stop asking questions.
Correct and this shows I can only have what I want after I stopped wanting it.
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Keksimaton
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posted July 03, 2010 01:25 AM
Edited by Keksimaton at 01:28, 03 Jul 2010.

Or then it could mean that as life seems to have no logical reason behind it, you need to go out and experience it for yourself. Reasons to live are emotional.

Fun fact, I came to this reasoning after playing Final Fantasy.
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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2010 01:27 AM

I experienced it for myself and it always ended painfully. If anything, experience made it worse.
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