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popabogdan1
popabogdan1


Adventuring Hero
posted January 06, 2012 10:57 AM
Edited by popabogdan1 at 10:57, 06 Jan 2012.

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Hulk is the best race late, if we ignore the ridiculous uber Azrael. At end game, where Woodmelon scripts every boss with insane defense, his ghost behemots ignore all this scripts, natural ability.


Well my 2nd Henchman from the photo has totaly destroyed pheonix boss....1 hit ko(Just him alone doing more dmg than 2.5k Sacred Pheonixes).

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 09, 2012 10:01 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 10:07, 09 Jan 2012.

I had to modify the "level 108" fix for my map, as it occurred twice that my hero went back to level 0, so here it is, as TDS is using the same overflow. Also there was a problem with primary stats after 114 value:

!?HM-1&1000;
!!HE-1:Ed/?l;
!!FU&l<108/l>0:E;
!!HE-1:E2073739175/100;
!!HE-1:F?y1/?y2/?y3/?y4;
!!VRy1&y1>=100:S99;
!!VRy2&y2>=100:S99;
!!VRy3&y3>=100:S99;
!!VRy4&y4>=100:S99;
!!HE-1:Fy1/y2/y3/y4;

Probably will allow some cheating, as visiting a tree when 74 reset you at zero too, so it is a straight way to 100, but I don't know other, except checking the experience amount, too lazy.

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JimV
JimV


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted January 09, 2012 09:07 PM

Looks good.  I will put that in the Box.net versions at my next update.  I might re-scale the creature experience levels also.  I should add Bersy's troop-slot fix, but another project has come up, forcing me to juggle priorities.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted January 12, 2012 04:41 PM

?

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I find the idea of easy start very good, however after testing the factions, I found that bonuses are not balanced.

The strongest so far was Gem (Life combo), then  Hulk (lev 4 hench).


In what version of the map or difficulty Gem gets the life combo?

I mean I tried her with 20%artefact(the second difficulty) on 200%,but she got in the beginnning only the Celestial Neclise of Bliss...

Maybe the game for the tomes of magis can give it,but surely when she reaches the place!

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JimV
JimV


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted January 12, 2012 07:54 PM

If you read further I think you will see that based on Salamandre's objection I removed the Elixer of Life as Gem's starting bonus, so that version no longer exists.  Anyway, that is what happened.  (I think the version you were playing, with the massive Henchmen, no longer exists either.) Personally, I find it difficult to get started as Gem without it, but I am not a super-expert player (although I did finish "Alexander the Great 1.01" for a 496 score - on my second try).

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 12, 2012 07:58 PM

Maybe another bonus can be found? Elixir of life is deadly in the first days, all others struggle but Gem gets full HP each round. Hulk would be scandalized.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted January 15, 2012 03:39 PM

Bonus

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Maybe another bonus can be found?


I suppose the real bonus are the specialities of the leaders and I am thankful that they are included in the menu of the game,so every time I want to read them,I can!

And trading ghosts for money really pleases me!

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popabogdan1
popabogdan1


Adventuring Hero
posted January 15, 2012 07:26 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Maybe another bonus can be found?


I suppose the real bonus are the specialities of the leaders and I am thankful that they are included in the menu of the game,so every time I want to read them,I can!

And trading ghosts for money really pleases me!

Yeah I know but you have to take them soon not when pheasant are 4k with about 50 hp and 32 dmg .....

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 15, 2012 07:31 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:32, 15 Jan 2012.

That's not entirely true: I take the ghosts very late, for money purpose, I give them no retal ability then I am happy to find 4000 peasants. Attack + teleport back ensures every turn growth.

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popabogdan1
popabogdan1


Adventuring Hero
posted January 16, 2012 01:02 AM

Hi Valery, may you tell me what quest should I complete to make Gem be able to open the quest bariers in the corners of the map?

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted January 16, 2012 01:43 PM

4000

Quote:

Yeah I know but you have to take them soon not when pheasant are 4k with about 50 hp and 32 dmg .....


If you set the creature grouth to get past 4000(one of the options in the beginning) you will have not 4000,but 28 000 peasants,waiting to become 28 000 ghousts from your army!

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted January 16, 2012 01:51 PM

Simple

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Hi Valery, may you tell me what quest should I complete to make Gem be able to open the quest bariers in the corners of the map?


I can tell you,because I read it and experienced it with Azrael-
for the 4 corners you need the 4 orbs-
Orb of fire-when removing the last fire pole
Orb of earth-when you defeat the fortress near the waterwalk spell
Orb of water-when you equip the sea-captain hat,you go to the whirlpools,where you enter and take it
Orb of air-when you build the grail structure in tower

I didnt experience it yet with Gem,so I dont know if she needs to go to the 4 corners to visit the towers in the corners to get the final for her-Salamandre may answer that!

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popabogdan1
popabogdan1


Adventuring Hero
posted January 16, 2012 08:22 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 17:19, 27 Jan 2012.

Yeah I know I have to get the orbs to open it but I want to know if there are some quests to make them work.And yes you need the towers because Xeron is unrechable without it

Mod note: Edit for unnecessary quoting.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 16, 2012 10:05 PM

I think that Jim played more recently than me this map. I played it a lot before translating, to get what's going on, but not after. So my memory fails about Gem goals (I know she has to do something around the knowledge tree), I could look in scripts to see, but I feel lazy about

Come on, guys, play it and do some trials, as I did. It's all the fun in this map. Imagine I was able to finish all races in pure chinese version?

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popabogdan1
popabogdan1


Adventuring Hero
posted January 16, 2012 10:32 PM

Hmm you mean the tree of knowledge from the cursed ground on the south of the map?
She have to do the same thing as Azrael?(Retreat from the trees and retourning in front of her castle)

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 16, 2012 10:53 PM

Gem must unlock the towers, then fight the angel and die. She will wake up next day with all army, then must defeat Xeron, from which the angel is taking immunity. Once Xeron is dead, game ends.

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JimV
JimV


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted January 19, 2012 06:41 AM

The versions 2.07J and 2.07Dr at http://www.box.net/shared/bj1eh6b50e have been revised slightly with changes to the experience-overflow fixes and a fix for the Town Screen Troop movement problem.

1. Salamandre's addition (to prevent Hero Primary Skills from overflowing from 99 to zero) has been incorporated.

2. All creature experience levels have been rescaled by a factor of 1/100, and the maximum percentage (of the top level experience) which can be gained in battle (EA:C) has been reduced by 1/2.  This gives about the same growth in creature experience levels per battle (in the large battles of TDS - a bigger reduction in the EA:C value might be necessary to balance other maps), and should eliminate creature experience overflow problems (until troop sizes exceed 1.4 million).

3. A new script has been added so that large troops (>32767) of creatures can be moved from slot to slot in the Town Screen without having the number become negative (which makes the creatures disappear).  In my tests, this only happens in the Town Screen, and only when swapping a large troop with another troop or with an empty slot.  The script checks for moves of that type and restores the creature numbers after they occur.  It has been tested under WoG 3.58f and Era 1.8.

Items 2 and 3 are in the last Timed Event.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted January 19, 2012 10:06 AM

?

Quote:
The versions 2.07J and 2.07Dr at http://www.box.net/shared/bj1eh6b50e have been revised slightly with changes to the experience-overflow fixes and a fix for the Town Screen Troop movement problem.




Is the blind spell still only for the Doctor and not for the other 7 main heroes?It required the amulet his astral spirit has...

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JimV
JimV


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted January 19, 2012 04:03 PM

The Blind spell can also be obtained from one of the three resolutions of the Pandora's Box quest.  Also, one Commander artifact can be transformed into another at the Artificer (see the Artificer menu, which has a Help section).  (I think both these details were mentioned in previous comments here.)  Personally, I have never bothered to get the Blind spell, but there are many things in the map which I have not done, having only finished the map once, as Orrin (Tan).

Everything I know about the map which seemed important to me is hinted about in the Rumors of the Day (Help Menu).  I asked for hints to be added that other people thought would be helpful, but have received no suggestions.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted January 19, 2012 06:11 PM

Thank you

Quote:
The Blind spell can also be obtained from one of the three resolutions of the Pandora's Box quest.  Also, one Commander artifact can be transformed into another at the Artificer (see the Artificer menu, which has a Help section).  


Thank you,JimV,for your answer!I finished the map only one time and only with Azrael.With him I got the dwarf reward and forgot the other rewards what they were.
At the Artificier I see in the menu that the amulet is not mentioned.

JimV,do you know what rewards the game to gather the 4 tomes give?

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