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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 18, 2010 09:16 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 09:18, 18 Sep 2010.

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will there be a H4 like system where you can only buy 2 out of 3 core buildings and 2 out of 3 elite buildings for example?

They're trying to balance units among the same category (core and elite) to force us to pick an amount of each. They said that we could pick only one creature per tier but they're trying to make this less interesting than picking a few of each creatures.

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the loss of the initiative system may not be the best idea. will it at least be like in H4? that way we can at least avoid super slow units, it's not because they play late that they can't move far.


Yes, creatures will have an initiative and a speed stat.

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Are you guys really sure the Wastelands are the terrain of necro?

Yes, it's confirmed.

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in some sceenshots i saw that necro heroin walking in the jungle...

And in H5 you could play Zehir in the snow, that didn't make snow the Academy's native terrain It's just a map.

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I read somewhere that would be an 6th campaign, is taht true?

Nope, there will be a final map once we complete the 5 campaigns.

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Danny
Danny


Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2010 11:08 AM

In the screenshots Haven is in the jungle but it's also hinting at snake-like creatures in there, so it's anyone's guess. But I don't see that Academy would get it in the end instead of Haven or a new faction.

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Naze
Naze


Known Hero
posted September 18, 2010 12:44 PM

The autumn plain could perfectly fit to the Elves! The plot of Heroes VI will take place about 400 years before Heroes V, which means around the Second Eclipse. The Dark Elves were "established" just a few years before, and in 566 (two years after the second eclipse) they have burned the Mother of Trees. So what if her death meant, that all the forests of Irollan would suffer of eternal autumn? (or, at least, until a new Mother of Trees is found?).
However, this would imply, that the half-sibling is a half-elf. Thus, the new faction could only be the Dragon Knights, who are also humans. And that would make me quite upset, since I am looking forward to nagas from the times of TotE
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted September 18, 2010 01:55 PM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 13:55, 18 Sep 2010.

I'm not going too deep into the information, since I liek to be surprised by the game a bit, but the glimpses I get are...well - good for ANY game, but a catastophe for heroes, in m eyes. Removing the tier system is unthinkable for me, though reasonable and more realistic and and and and...I do not at all like it for HoMM.
I will try to look at this as a new game, not as Heroes of Might and MAgic, and then I'll maybe like it, but it seems to be not heroes anymore. I did nto ahve this feeling with H4, except for the heroes in battle and the alone-walking armies (which I liked) things. BUt here, many things give me that feeling and I dislike them...

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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2010 04:21 PM

I just passed on some book about Chinese Myth, in fact I remembered about some ancient story of beings called Fu XI and Nu Wa, just read the book recently and and lol at how the developer actually creating Naga with Chinese (or Far Eastern, since there are also Japanese cultural references) culture feel rather than Hindu.

Fu Xi
Nu Wa

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LordGodric
LordGodric


Known Hero
The Griffin Rider
posted September 18, 2010 06:58 PM

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Removing the tier system is unthinkable for me, though reasonable and more realistic and and and and...I do not at all like it for HoMM.



indeed, the teir system made HoMM remarkable.
It's good for game balance, and tree tiers is an interesting thing;
Thinking deeply about it... 3 tiers is too few, inst it?

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Geny
Geny


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted September 18, 2010 07:00 PM

It's still 7 units (and their upgrades).
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted September 18, 2010 07:59 PM

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They're trying to balance units among the same category (core and elite) to force us to pick an amount of each. They said that we could pick only one creature per tier but they're trying to make this less interesting than picking a few of each creatures.


not sure I understand. like the summoning portal in H4? when you recruit an unit it decreases the amount of other units available?

wouldn't make much sense if you have a choice between griffins and paladins (and priests I guess)

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 18, 2010 08:25 PM

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not sure I understand. like the summoning portal in H4? when you recruit an unit it decreases the amount of other units available?

wouldn't make much sense if you have a choice between griffins and paladins (and priests I guess)

Yes exactly that.

There will be a shared pool for the 3 core creatures another shared pool for the elite creatures and a pool for the champions.

Instead of having 20 archers, 15 pikemen and 10 swordsmen, we'll be able to recruit 45 core creatures and we can choose any combination of those 3 creatures.

External dwellings will boost the corresponding pool.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted September 18, 2010 09:42 PM

Which news batch did you get that from, or did you actually talk to one of the developers?

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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted September 18, 2010 10:03 PM

I pretty much deduced that from the hints that Elvin gave about the new tier system. Elvin then confirmed my deduction.
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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 18, 2010 10:48 PM

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I pretty much deduced that from the hints that Elvin gave about the new tier system. Elvin then confirmed my deduction.


Yep, it's a mix from all the infos we got from the Archangel Castle's preview, Geny's post and Elvin's post (somewhere in the big topic )

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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted September 18, 2010 11:07 PM

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The way I see it, there are 2 possible campaign scenarios.

Another option that came to my mind is that the Archangel general's ancient enemies are the 6 Demon Overlords, which might lead to him becoming the Sovereign.




I find that to be a great idea, my congrats for that, it just might be it.
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Pahomije
Pahomije


Hired Hero
posted September 19, 2010 12:49 PM

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The way I see it, there are 2 possible campaign scenarios.

Another option that came to my mind is that the Archangel general's ancient enemies are the 6 Demon Overlords, which might lead to him becoming the Sovereign.




I find that to be a great idea, my congrats for that, it just might be it.


Thank you. The trailer kinda hints it. An Angel standing in front of what appear to be demons and losing his wings/turning black. On the other hand, he might be a Faceless (they look similar but are black and are masters of deception after all), and the crowd are not demons but dungeon creatures.
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Danny
Danny


Famous Hero
posted September 19, 2010 01:06 PM

Interesting. Some of those creatures do have a dragon feel, but definitely not "other" Dungeon creatures. However, I don't think that every demon unit will be fiery like the Juggernaut either.

If the Faceless is a high level unit, the Dungeon faction still can be considered as an old faction and they can still include the all new "set in China" faction.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted September 19, 2010 02:09 PM

I would expect academy as a faction, it would be surprising to lose the titans.

did they talk about neutral creatures? I guess the black dragon will be neutral, it would be surprising that they get rid of it

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted September 20, 2010 09:56 AM

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I would expect academy as a faction, it would be surprising to lose the titans.

Problem is, pretty much no matter what faction they cut, we ARE going to lose some unit that seems essential to the series.
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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted September 20, 2010 11:47 AM

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I would expect academy as a faction, it would be surprising to lose the titans.

Problem is, pretty much no matter what faction they cut, we ARE going to lose some unit that seems essential to the series.


just until the expansions
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Danny
Danny


Famous Hero
posted September 20, 2010 11:59 AM
Edited by Danny at 12:00, 20 Sep 2010.

On Facebook M&M page they posted a bit on Haven and also confirmed the "pikeman" unit is Sentinel & Praetorian. Hope they will continue posting like that with the other units!



"The mighty Sentinels are the first line of defenders of the Holy Empire. They are volunteers who have proven their loyalty to the Emperor and their devotion to Elrath. They have sworn an oath to protect their brothers-in-arms with their heavy shield and, if needed, their live. For their own personal protection, they rely entirely on their faith."



"The Praetorian is the upgrade of the Sentinel."

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted September 20, 2010 12:23 PM

I like what I see. Hope to see more like this soon.

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